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da fallon factor
05 Nov 09 19:11
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anybody looking to bulk up on these

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crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 19:14
only egg white powder
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 19:15
might just as well buy fresh eggs and dump the yolk......
By:
(NAP)
When: 05 Nov 09 19:17
a cup of spaff? ffs.
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 05 Nov 09 19:17
you must be yolking?
By:
Big Charlie
When: 05 Nov 09 19:18
Eggsactly
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 19:20
hehe...pmsl.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 05 Nov 09 19:20
My head would be scrambled taking all that stuff.
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 19:22
If your recovering from ill health etc or need it for a short term need like hiking then they are generally ok. long term use is not advisable.

most are whey powder, which is milk protein, (ie milk pwder with the fat removed. Soya and Rice versions are available for those who cannot have milk.

In truth you would be better to eat extra chicken or fish. the actual protein and calorie value is not much different and the risk of long term damage to the digestive system is much reduced. Not to mention the other health benefits of eating fish.

If you are tempted then look carefully at what calories and protein you are getting per portion and compare to a chicken breast or piece of fish. Rice and a small chicken breast with a little veg will be much nicer and do the same thing.
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:25
i eat alot of chicken and eggs etc but still want more protein so often have a shake after exercising. Be careful where you get them though, alot of companies like h&b have cheap forms and sugar filled stuff which probabaly explains why it's always on sale.
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 05 Nov 09 19:25
while were on these subjects... i walk alot but recently ive been getting stiff leg muscles whilst walking. probably cos ive not been eating properly recently just snacking on junk. what foods are best to get my legs working again??
By:
wur
When: 05 Nov 09 19:26
Good advice, JH. Skimmed milk or 1% fat milk must be the cheapest and most convenient way to get protein.

However, milk allergy is quite common, as is lactose intolerance.
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:28
sugary junk will give u aboost then alow, maybe a big bowl of wholemeal pasta with some chicken an hour before your walk will make a difference.
By:
Superwhite
When: 05 Nov 09 19:28
Spot on JH, Protein drinks are only taken by people with small d!cks who don't have much luck with the ladies
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:29
is that a scientific fact superwhite :D
By:
Superwhite
When: 05 Nov 09 19:32
I,ve been taking it for 16 years
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 19:35
we know superdick..
By:
dk1986
When: 05 Nov 09 19:35
I followed a piece of writing once which said you have a "power hour" in which to consume a decent helping of protein after a workout. The theory is that the protein gets "right in there" when all your muscle fibres have split from working out. When the fibres re-form with the assistance of protein, they come back bigger than otherwise not having that assistance. Or something!

Anyway, I felt a bit of a gain compared to not heeding that advice, though on a cost-per-upper-arm-circumference-gain ratio you'd be just as well timing it so that the end of a workout coincides with meal time - (J Hensen's advised meal etc). ;)
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:39
it's correct you do want to get in in you as soon as possible after finishing but you also need protein throught the day. the repairing of the muscles can take 2 days. the body needs alot of it if you want a bit of muscle so thats where they come in useful, having them between meals.
By:
everythings gone green
When: 05 Nov 09 19:41
What's that creatine stuff all about then?
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:44
they're learning all the time about creatine, but many say its worth taking even if you dont exercise. A positive effect on the brain apparently. but when taken by someone who regularly lifts weights and drinks alot of fluid it mill make your muscles bigger. mainly by allowing more water into them which in turn allows you to lift heavier.
By:
dk1986
When: 05 Nov 09 19:45
Creatine encourages blood to the muscles, allowing for more reps. The theory there is that the more you can do, the more re-growth you achieve.

I think. Stand to be corrected.
By:
everythings gone green
When: 05 Nov 09 19:45
Any downsides then?
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:45
i mix a teapsoon of it in with my choc mint shake (actually tastes like mint aero) immediately after exercising and it's made a big difference.
By:
u want some
When: 05 Nov 09 19:46
For fook sake
By:
dk1986
When: 05 Nov 09 19:47
Downside: you need to drink shed loads of water throughout the day to stay hydrated.
By:
everythings gone green
When: 05 Nov 09 19:48
Cheers
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 19:49
it will do sod all if you dont drink alot. as those who complain about it doing fek all dont comprehend.
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 20:14
pure creatine tastes nothing like aero....its a bitter taste and it works best with warm graprfruit juice..very difficult to dissolve.so dont take it unless it dissolves...like iron filings...never found a lot diffrent ,
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 20:14
pure creatine tastes nothing like aero....its a bitter taste and it works best with warm graprfruit juice..very difficult to dissolve.so dont take it unless it dissolves...like iron filings...never found a lot diffrent ,
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 20:15
Keep away from soya ..unless you want moobs
By:
get in there gamsty!
When: 05 Nov 09 20:16
no the protein drink i have is of aero.
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 20:23
lol.
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 20:23
lol.
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 20:37
to elaborate. as with anything if taken to excess it is not good. a very common way to become intolerent to a food group is to overeat it. As someone who is intolerent to dairy, (not through whey powders though), it is a chore for the rest of my life and not to be wished upon anyone, (Tony Blair aside).

The other acute point is that, your body requires fat/carbs/protien in certain ratios. eating too much whey can often lead to upsetting that ratio, and so the whole digestive system is out of balance.

try eating a high fibre calorie dense breakfast cereal with say banana, and the for lunch eating chicken and rice, (you can cook this the night before easy enough and take to work), and a regular tea.

the concept of eating high protein after a work out is (if true - I dunno), that the protien goes straight to muscle. In which case the odd shake and the odd chicken breast will do no harm if used moderately.

It is also said that if your aiming to put weight on and increase muscle that you should do weights, (as in not cardio), and rest every other day. this is when the protein works in the muscle during the rest day. so no point in lifting weights every day, and no pint in taking excess protein pre workout.

I always notice that the body builder types that are far too occupied with this sort of thing are actually useless at "real life" lifting/moving things. they can humph and strain and lift a bar in a gym, but ask them to help you move house or lift a few manhole covers or flag a patio and you almost feel sorry for them after ten minutes.
By:
crediter
When: 05 Nov 09 20:50
but they shoot a good syringe....
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 05 Nov 09 20:57
it may help if we put numbers to it.

eating an extra 500 calories per day will increase body weight by 1 lb per week. if you consume those calories with high protein and low fat, (ie fish chicken rice etc), and workout it will go straight to muscle.

A chicken breast cooked in oven with rice is around 600 calories. with a bit of veg a little bread some fruit and your probably around 900, which is probably 500 more than the average lunch.
By:
popup
When: 05 Nov 09 20:58
Amazes me why people want to bulk up. They must feel inadequate in some way.
By:
da fallon factor
When: 05 Nov 09 21:01
intresting jim
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Guybrush Threepwood
When: 05 Nov 09 21:06
bbbbbeefffffffcaaaaaakeeeeeeeeeee
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