protein drinks

only egg white powder

might just as well buy fresh eggs and dump the yolk......

a cup of spaff? ffs.

you must be yolking?

Eggsactly

hehe...pmsl.

My head would be scrambled taking all that stuff.

If your recovering from ill health etc or need it for a short term need like hiking then they are generally ok. long term use is not advisable.

most are whey powder, which is milk protein, (ie milk pwder with the fat removed. Soya and Rice versions are available for those who cannot have milk.

In truth you would be better to eat extra chicken or fish. the actual protein and calorie value is not much different and the risk of long term damage to the digestive system is much reduced. Not to mention the other health benefits of eating fish.

If you are tempted then look carefully at what calories and protein you are getting per portion and compare to a chicken breast or piece of fish. Rice and a small chicken breast with a little veg will be much nicer and do the same thing.

i eat alot of chicken and eggs etc but still want more protein so often have a shake after exercising. Be careful where you get them though, alot of companies like h&b have cheap forms and sugar filled stuff which probabaly explains why it's always on sale.

while were on these subjects... i walk alot but recently ive been getting stiff leg muscles whilst walking. probably cos ive not been eating properly recently just snacking on junk. what foods are best to get my legs working again??

Good advice, JH. Skimmed milk or 1% fat milk must be the cheapest and most convenient way to get protein.

However, milk allergy is quite common, as is lactose intolerance.

sugary junk will give u aboost then alow, maybe a big bowl of wholemeal pasta with some chicken an hour before your walk will make a difference.

Spot on JH, Protein drinks are only taken by people with small d!cks who don't have much luck with the ladies

is that a scientific fact superwhite :D

I,ve been taking it for 16 years

we know superdick..

I followed a piece of writing once which said you have a "power hour" in which to consume a decent helping of protein after a workout. The theory is that the protein gets "right in there" when all your muscle fibres have split from working out. When the fibres re-form with the assistance of protein, they come back bigger than otherwise not having that assistance. Or something!

Anyway, I felt a bit of a gain compared to not heeding that advice, though on a cost-per-upper-arm-circumference-gain ratio you'd be just as well timing it so that the end of a workout coincides with meal time - (J Hensen's advised meal etc). ;)

it's correct you do want to get in in you as soon as possible after finishing but you also need protein throught the day. the repairing of the muscles can take 2 days. the body needs alot of it if you want a bit of muscle so thats where they come in useful, having them between meals.

What's that creatine stuff all about then?

they're learning all the time about creatine, but many say its worth taking even if you dont exercise. A positive effect on the brain apparently. but when taken by someone who regularly lifts weights and drinks alot of fluid it mill make your muscles bigger. mainly by allowing more water into them which in turn allows you to lift heavier.

Creatine encourages blood to the muscles, allowing for more reps. The theory there is that the more you can do, the more re-growth you achieve.

I think. Stand to be corrected.

Any downsides then?

i mix a teapsoon of it in with my choc mint shake (actually tastes like mint aero) immediately after exercising and it's made a big difference.

For fook sake

Downside: you need to drink shed loads of water throughout the day to stay hydrated.

Cheers

it will do sod all if you dont drink alot. as those who complain about it doing fek all dont comprehend.

pure creatine tastes nothing like aero....its a bitter taste and it works best with warm graprfruit juice..very difficult to dissolve.so dont take it unless it dissolves...like iron filings...never found a lot diffrent ,

pure creatine tastes nothing like aero....its a bitter taste and it works best with warm graprfruit juice..very difficult to dissolve.so dont take it unless it dissolves...like iron filings...never found a lot diffrent ,

Keep away from soya ..unless you want moobs

no the protein drink i have is of aero.

lol.

lol.

to elaborate. as with anything if taken to excess it is not good. a very common way to become intolerent to a food group is to overeat it. As someone who is intolerent to dairy, (not through whey powders though), it is a chore for the rest of my life and not to be wished upon anyone, (Tony Blair aside).

The other acute point is that, your body requires fat/carbs/protien in certain ratios. eating too much whey can often lead to upsetting that ratio, and so the whole digestive system is out of balance.

try eating a high fibre calorie dense breakfast cereal with say banana, and the for lunch eating chicken and rice, (you can cook this the night before easy enough and take to work), and a regular tea.

the concept of eating high protein after a work out is (if true - I dunno), that the protien goes straight to muscle. In which case the odd shake and the odd chicken breast will do no harm if used moderately.

It is also said that if your aiming to put weight on and increase muscle that you should do weights, (as in not cardio), and rest every other day. this is when the protein works in the muscle during the rest day. so no point in lifting weights every day, and no pint in taking excess protein pre workout.

I always notice that the body builder types that are far too occupied with this sort of thing are actually useless at "real life" lifting/moving things. they can humph and strain and lift a bar in a gym, but ask them to help you move house or lift a few manhole covers or flag a patio and you almost feel sorry for them after ten minutes.

but they shoot a good syringe....

it may help if we put numbers to it.

eating an extra 500 calories per day will increase body weight by 1 lb per week. if you consume those calories with high protein and low fat, (ie fish chicken rice etc), and workout it will go straight to muscle.

A chicken breast cooked in oven with rice is around 600 calories. with a bit of veg a little bread some fruit and your probably around 900, which is probably 500 more than the average lunch.

Amazes me why people want to bulk up. They must feel inadequate in some way.

intresting jim

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fwiw. I'm just embarking upon this. long story but lost a bit of weight a few years ago after a bad accident, and as a result discovered other health issues including a leaky gut. I have recently repaired that leakiness and can now eat more without worrying about it. I have recently looked into a lot of this and chosen not to get into the protein shakes. I have bought one jar of rice protein, (least risk for digestive system),which I will use occasionally when away from home etc.

You will notice that all the websites about it tend to write endlessly about them. Ask yourself what they are not saying and it is the numbers as I have offered above. Always be suspicious of websites that go on and on about what should be simple stuff.

The average shake gives something like 300 extra calories. It is hardly special medicine when you compare it to an extra portion of chicken.

:^0

.....want to bulk up.....well..i suppose its better than being a fat ;bald ggit with more veins in his legs than spaghetti junction.

Any advocates of steaming vegetables, on here?

I'll be "getting in shape" one day, and diet is at least 50% of it. Steamed veg retains its qualities almost entirely does it not?

What does l - lycene do for body builders? They all seem to take it.
If you want egg protein, is the goodness still there after boiling it? It is easier to ditch the yoke this way.

Does horrible things to your body in the middle or later years..i mean how many old bodybuilders do you see..the stress on the heart is horrific.Though more to do with most guys (not all of course) choosing to take gear at some stage and usually to excess.

L-Lysine is an essential amino acid mate,(cant be made in the body)

They are component blocks that protein is built from..thoiugh unless used very accuratley and in good does and with best quality they aint gonna work wonders

steaming veg retains around 90% of its calories, (useful as they don't often have many, excpet potatoes), and 90% of the nutrient values.

boiling is around 60-70% retention. One one hand it is not much in calorie terms, on the other hand you get much more nutrient from veg than you do from meat and grains.

also peeling potatoes and root veg is best done with a peeler as opposed to a knife. the reason being that a lot of the flavour is right under the skin so the closer you shave the more the flavour, and combined with steaming makes it much tastier imo.

L-Lysine is an essential amino acid mate,(cant be made in the body)

They are component blocks that protein is built from..thoiugh unless used very accuratley and in good does and with best quality they aint gonna work wonders

Where is it found naturally?

Ta Jim.

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