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Well no, it's just, he's one of the biggest rap stars in the world. Seems reasonable to think of it as rap, that's all.
Do you have some secret rap that you'd like to let us in on? If it's a guy from Bermondsey we're like way up for it! |
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Very funny Sparky!
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old school rap record. (1981 vintage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgQYp1UDn1k |
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you really have no clue do you :)
even bands like rage against the machine and NWA were proper rap artistes over this r n b shyte.. your from stoke, if you ever went to one of the nights at satchmos youd know the difference my friend.. |
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Sorry Mitchell, but
"If you'd lived in the 30's 40's 50's or 60's, and sampled music of the time, you'd realise how vile this stuff is" Who's the loser here, someone who enjoys something or someone who hates it? If everything other than haute cuisine tastes bitter than that's what you've become. I LOVE these tracks! |
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Best rap song ever, featuring 2 of the most gorgeous chicks I've ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpb30yBceA |
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Don't get your knickers in a twist Sparky.
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Big game player jay z is old school been making tunes since the late eighties, he aint my bag musically but then you posted a shoite PE track in my view.In terms of great rappers check this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwd20C_2oVA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHaTSxMuS6U |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_school_hip_hop
read that sparky then you may have some clue as to the differnce |
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the difference between what?
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Gangsters Paradise is by far the best rap song ever (not much competition mind) and at least you can make out the lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK6H_CcuX8 |
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brngtwt yeah i know its not one of their best or one of the best but i found something that would be accessible to most in here,...
and not that boring shyte that people call rap now ... |
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lol best rap song ever :)
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They're not Mitchell, like I say, I really enjoy these tracks. I'll have a look at yours too, hopefully I'll like that too.
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You'll be surprised by the 1st one. ;-)
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sparky the difference between the r n b drivel your on abotu and proper old school rap and hip hop.. you might even want to listen to some of it. but i doubt it would be your thing really..
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Mitchell, I too liked Gangsters Paradise - but that's probably because it was a Stevie Wonder song originally (Pastime Paradise).
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Yes, I only learned that about a year ago Tommy.
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I'm not on about r'n'b, I quite like it, but the thread is about the track Empire state of mind, and specifically the rapper Jay-Z's contribution. Old school rap has I'm sure, many great tracks.
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Gangster's paradise is just a slightly altered Stevie Wonder song though.
Grandmaster flash 'The Message' was totally original and broke new ground in pace and content. Plus all the white kids in glasgow knew all the lyrics. Incredible. nothing in its class since. |
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Here's Stevie's version - from one of the greatest albums ever made: Songs In The Key Of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0S4SiLxt1s |
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I thought Gangster's Paradise was OK, but a bit commercial and lame.
That link Mitchell, it's no Anfield rap. |
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This is one rap record that I really like, extremely catchy.
Black Eyed Peas. Shut Up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzMtlZjXpU |
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In fact it's a very clever piece of work.
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What was that song where the bloke was dressed as a jockey in the video?
I liked that too. |
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By the Flying Piggots?
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I like the Black eyed peas, although I accept that they're not particularly intellectual.
Monday...Tuesday...Wednesday...Thursday.... |
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Very good, Sparky!
I can't for the life of me remember his name now - it was just one bloke. Very catchy song of about 4 (?) years ago. He appeared as several jockeys (I seem to remember) but they were all him. |
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Green silks.
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I know what you mean...but also can't remember Tommy!
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I think what this thread really bears out is you should always be open to any genre of music.
I must admit, I haven't clicked on the other rap links as I don't like the music overall and would never seek it out - but when I stumble across something (like on Jools that night) I'll listen to it - and I was very taken with that particular song. Every era and genre has it's good and bad. The 30s 40 and 50s had just as much dross then as there is now. The 60s was an exceptional decade, as I'm sure most would agree - but it still had some terrible stuff too. |
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Indeed, you look at the charts from then and the 70s and for every great track by The Who or The Stones there's several No-one Quite Like Grandpas.
It's a tragedy that video means that today unattractive artists can't get contracts however talented they are, but a bigger blessing that the internet means that doesn't matter! |
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Tommy Toes 10 Dec 01:24
Every era and genre has it's good and bad. The 30s 40 and 50s had just as much dross then as there is now. The 60s was an exceptional decade, as I'm sure most would agree - but it still had some terrible stuff too. With respect, never heard such nonsense. |
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Correct, Sparky.
I see a lot on here in my age group who really liked the 70s music as they were in their teens and that's usually the music you associate with 'good times' (probably) but I felt really **ed at the time, as I thought four fifths of it absloute garbage. If it hadn't have been for Radio Luxembourg and The Old Grey Whistle Test, I'd have very rarely heard any good music from that decade. |
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With respect, Mitchell, I disagree.
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tommy toes and mitchell bare knuckle fighting on the cobbles ?
put em up muthas! MARVELLOUS UPPERCUTS SPARKY |
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Just remembered, Sparky!
Outcast: Hey Ya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIv8-tYorRk |
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end of thread ? :(
has this ever occured before on such a popular topical thread ffs discuss.. |
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*Outkast
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dont mince your words tom,i get the message
gn |