wife needs a reference

why doesn't the last employer want to give one?

ex manager dont like her
nothing to do with her job just dont like her

tough if they decide to check her references, she's fecked. She should explain to them why she wasn't liked

there must be some guidelines
to ensure if her last job no ref was forthcoming

Thats a tough one,best not offer it up as reference,be honest,ask other people/jobs she has done

why did she leave her last job if you dont mind me asking?

her new job has phoned her last place of work with no joy from her last manager

It does annoy me these references when the person writting them can be an absolute blooming so n so who has done nothing else in the life apart from working at that particular company

How about a reference from another boss at her old job?

she was being put down to 3 days a week
so she decided to take a bit of redundancy and go and try her luck
elsewhere

She gives a tremendous blow job, if that helps.

cheers dublin
we are having to go down that road
but that wouldnt effect her new job will it

:^0

well she should just say to her new company, we didnt get on but i was efficient and could hold the lollypop as well as the next woman :)

but she should say that, she has no reservations whatsoever about what her ex manager has to say and if they wont giver her a reference it says a lot about them not her... and then ask the person who wants the reference...although not in a sly way

"even if you personally didnt like someone would you not give a reference?" when they say yes.. just say.. well that should tell you everything about that person, because i wouldnt be worried in the slightest bit about what they had to say about my work.

No, if she gets the reference, then gets the job.. all done.

what about me welshie thats what i said :-(

no cant get another reference from her old job
there was only one manager and she wont play ball

you are not allowed to write a reference if it is going to show somebody in a bad light.they are there to help people not hinder them

honesty is by far the best approach failing that you have to lie and make one up,travel abroad or own business or get a friend to help you out

but the law does state an ex employer does not have to give a refence if they dont want to

Just say it the company policy not to give any references. Some companies do this now to try to avoid disputes.

TBF she was fked the minute she started all that "Bell Du Jour" malarkey.

I would get together a couple of personal references, explain the position with the former employer and suggest that perhaps a probationary period would help allay any reservations the new employer might have.

*waits for it*...

**doesn't have all day**...

surely theres a 1.01 to land in this thread??

Lots of companies now dont give references.
If they give a good reference and the person turns out to not be so good they may be sued by the new employer.
If they give a bad reference and the person doesn't get the job they may get sued by the ex employee.

Five By Five 17 Nov 14:36
surely theres a 1.01 to land in this thread??

Are we waiting for a question about white dog poo?

If they give a bad reference and the person doesn't get the job they may get sued by the ex employee.

Don't think people generally give bad references - either a good one or none.

you can actually give a bad reference

i.e. the ex-employer is allowed to state how many times the person was off sick in the last year

"sucks like a hoover and goes like a steam train"

There, stick that down.

I won't even charge for that

Feck, should read whole thread before posting poor joke

Employer cannot refuse to give a reference.

Most if not all employers do nothing more than confirm dates of employment and number of days off sick in the last 12 months but that is sufficient for the new employer's purposes. The days of commenting on performance, personality etc are gone for the reasons mentioned above.