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WELSHIE1
17 Nov 09 13:07
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last employer is not giving one
she has been offered the job upon referneces
where does she stand

any help would be great

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By:
The Magic Flea
When: 17 Nov 09 13:08
why doesn't the last employer want to give one?
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:09
ex manager dont like her
nothing to do with her job just dont like her
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 17 Nov 09 13:10
tough if they decide to check her references, she's fecked. She should explain to them why she wasn't liked
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:10
there must be some guidelines
to ensure if her last job no ref was forthcoming
By:
Bamboo
When: 17 Nov 09 13:11
Thats a tough one,best not offer it up as reference,be honest,ask other people/jobs she has done
By:
big-game-player
When: 17 Nov 09 13:12
why did she leave her last job if you dont mind me asking?
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:13
her new job has phoned her last place of work with no joy from her last manager
By:
Bamboo
When: 17 Nov 09 13:13
It does annoy me these references when the person writting them can be an absolute blooming so n so who has done nothing else in the life apart from working at that particular company
By:
DublinSlim1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:14
How about a reference from another boss at her old job?
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:14
she was being put down to 3 days a week
so she decided to take a bit of redundancy and go and try her luck
elsewhere
By:
sibaroni
When: 17 Nov 09 13:14
She gives a tremendous blow job, if that helps.
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:15
cheers dublin
we are having to go down that road
but that wouldnt effect her new job will it
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 17 Nov 09 13:15
:^0
By:
big-game-player
When: 17 Nov 09 13:15
well she should just say to her new company, we didnt get on but i was efficient and could hold the lollypop as well as the next woman :)

but she should say that, she has no reservations whatsoever about what her ex manager has to say and if they wont giver her a reference it says a lot about them not her... and then ask the person who wants the reference...although not in a sly way

"even if you personally didnt like someone would you not give a reference?" when they say yes.. just say.. well that should tell you everything about that person, because i wouldnt be worried in the slightest bit about what they had to say about my work.
By:
DublinSlim1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:16
No, if she gets the reference, then gets the job.. all done.
By:
Bamboo
When: 17 Nov 09 13:16
what about me welshie thats what i said :-(
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:17
no cant get another reference from her old job
there was only one manager and she wont play ball
By:
Bamboo
When: 17 Nov 09 13:18
you are not allowed to write a reference if it is going to show somebody in a bad light.they are there to help people not hinder them
By:
Bamboo
When: 17 Nov 09 13:19
honesty is by far the best approach failing that you have to lie and make one up,travel abroad or own business or get a friend to help you out
By:
WELSHIE1
When: 17 Nov 09 13:20
but the law does state an ex employer does not have to give a refence if they dont want to
By:
HarryCrumb
When: 17 Nov 09 13:20
Just say it the company policy not to give any references. Some companies do this now to try to avoid disputes.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 17 Nov 09 13:29
TBF she was fked the minute she started all that "Bell Du Jour" malarkey.
By:
orioles
When: 17 Nov 09 13:32
I would get together a couple of personal references, explain the position with the former employer and suggest that perhaps a probationary period would help allay any reservations the new employer might have.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 17 Nov 09 13:33
*waits for it*...
By:
Ken Masters
When: 17 Nov 09 13:35
**doesn't have all day**...
By:
Five By Five
When: 17 Nov 09 13:36
surely theres a 1.01 to land in this thread??
By:
bix
When: 17 Nov 09 13:36
Lots of companies now dont give references.
If they give a good reference and the person turns out to not be so good they may be sued by the new employer.
If they give a bad reference and the person doesn't get the job they may get sued by the ex employee.
By:
PoolFC
When: 17 Nov 09 13:54
Five By Five 17 Nov 14:36
surely theres a 1.01 to land in this thread??


Are we waiting for a question about white dog poo?
By:
travelling_man..
When: 17 Nov 09 14:00
If they give a bad reference and the person doesn't get the job they may get sued by the ex employee.

Don't think people generally give bad references - either a good one or none.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 17 Nov 09 18:18
you can actually give a bad reference

i.e. the ex-employer is allowed to state how many times the person was off sick in the last year
By:
Live Forever
When: 17 Nov 09 18:20
"sucks like a hoover and goes like a steam train"

There, stick that down.
By:
Live Forever
When: 17 Nov 09 18:20
I won't even charge for that
By:
Live Forever
When: 17 Nov 09 18:22
Feck, should read whole thread before posting poor joke
By:
28dogs
When: 17 Nov 09 20:25
Employer cannot refuse to give a reference.

Most if not all employers do nothing more than confirm dates of employment and number of days off sick in the last 12 months but that is sufficient for the new employer's purposes. The days of commenting on performance, personality etc are gone for the reasons mentioned above.
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