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By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 18:55
ok cheers, i will try to locate the internal battery..carefully lol
By:
Jimbo747
When: 05 Nov 09 18:59
If you're near derby I'll have a look at it tomorrow for you.
Think rockin horse is on the right track definitely sounds like a bios problem - corrupt memory imo.

Sorta skipped through the thread, but I'm assuming you've done the usual checking such as removing harddrive, remove memory / wipe with cloth / replace etc

If you're going to open the lappy up, remove the main battery first ;)
On the motherboard will be a jumper, near the cmos battery. It may have a plastic jumper to short pins 2-3, otherwise you can do something similar with a screw driver and short the two solder mounts on motherboard. Or take battery out, and then leave for at least 30 mins for charge to dissipate.
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 19:04
Cheers jimbo, if i take out the internal battery for an hour will i lose any important info...

Unfortumatley im not by derby but thanks for that, im in brum...

i have removed memory and put back in thats about it..
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 19:05
going to take the back off.. laters
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 19:12
no you wont lose any info,its just bios settings,they can be reset to default anyway,if you have a digital camera take a snapshot,so if you get into trouble where anything goes,you can quickly sort it,remember the + - positions on the battery as you take it out,theres a good vchance it will work,if it does go into settings in control panel and switch off hibernation mode
By:
TambourineMan.
When: 05 Nov 09 19:16
This from a Website.....

OMG! It worked! :D
My Asus X51R has been refusing to boot for about 3 months now due to "CMOS Battery Low", "CMOS Corrupt" and "CMOS Date/Time Not Set", and I have been unable to do anything due to both the F1 (continue) and F2 (Setup) asked for a BIOS password that I never set.

None of the default BIOS passwords I tried worked, and I had quite honestly given up hope.

But after following your instructions (holding the power button without any power source connected for 45 seconds), it now boots up perfectly.

The F1/F2 alternatives still appeared the first time I booted it, but without password requirements.

You're a lifesaver :)
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 19:49
tamborineman, thanks for that but have tried it a few times..

cant find internal battery ggrrr.. dont wont to dig too deep
By:
uncle monty
When: 05 Nov 09 19:53
throw in bin. its broken.
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 19:57
catt could be encased in yellow plastic,but usually looks like a silver coin smaller than a 10p piece
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 19:58
to be honest if your laptop is over 4 years old merely replacing this battery with a new one (e bay about £1) could sort it right away
By:
Jimbo747
When: 05 Nov 09 20:05
And if you dont have a battery, go to a local pound shop, they will have packs of batteries that have all different sizes - bound to have the one your lappy needs.

Battery on most laptops I seem underneath keyboard towards trackpad, but if you're real unlucky it could be tucked away underneath or towards hinge.
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 20:06
http://linuxdevcenter.com/linux/2006/11/09/graphics/doo_photo_2.jpg
look for something like this
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 20:42
CHEERS FOR THAT... didnt find the battery try again tommorow...there has to be an easier option..
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 20:47
the thing is if you are used to doing it its a simple procedure,it can bring very good results,as it resets bios and settings to factory state,go on to your laptops website and click on support see if the PDF manual is on there for download,find out where the battery is positioned,personally when you find it I'd just replace it,if it is encased in plastic get the same one off ebay or Maplin may have one,
By:
BIG GURU
When: 05 Nov 09 20:52
There is a pic of the motherboard here guys,don't know if you will be able to identify the battery from this RH
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASUS-X51R-MOTHERBOARD-FAULTY-08G2005XA21Q_W0QQitemZ380150348251QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20091018?IMSfp=TL091018138002r3172
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 20:56
that white block far left, below it is a black plastic holder (empty) that could be it
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 20:59
The reason you cant see it is,you have taken the bottome base of the laptop off I take it? this looks as thought its under the keyboard,you are looking at the wrong side of the motherboard at present
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 21:10
Thats the problem with laptops they are very intricate to work on,if you are now unsure,screw everything back in place,go to a backstreet repair shop (pc world rip you off,and say its something else no doubt)just get a cmos battery replacement,see how it goes,
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 21:20
heres the manual PDF,you dont have to fill in e mail addy
just numbers in box
http://www.retrevo.com/support/Asus-X51R-Laptops-manual/id/22993dj692/t/2/
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 21:32
catt,looking through the manual there IS an emergency start/shutdown button on the bottom somewhere,you need a paperclip to press it
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 21:45
nice one i will try that thank you for your help .
By:
THE CATT
When: 05 Nov 09 21:58
TRYED RESET BUTTON NO CHANGE BUT WAS WORTH A TRY
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 05 Nov 09 22:02
I think the battery is the best bet ,to reset every thing,but you could fook the whole laptop up tinkering without the right tools ,my advice now,.....get someone to fit a new one poss £10-15
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 06:52
Ok will do ..thanks for you r help and all that have tried to help me...
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 06 Nov 09 08:12
Many independent PC repair companies will check it for free and then up to you whether you pay them to**it. That's how I discovered my motherboard was bust and they advised me to just buy a new laptop (they didn't sell laptops so not dodgy advice).
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 11:40
QUICK UPDATE


Took the laptop apart this morning trying to locate the internal battery...got so far into it and could
not carry on due to lack of knowledge.. i put it all back together and hey presto it fired up... i tried this a few times and it fired up..Now it has gone back in to what ever mode it was in before so a real head scratcher..

WEIRD!!!!
By:
padlock
When: 06 Nov 09 11:41
buy a decent laptop....
By:
(NAP)
When: 06 Nov 09 11:43
well done CATT. glad i could help.
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 06 Nov 09 11:44
catt, when it fires up next time,go into power settings and.switch stand by and hibernation OFF,its looking more like that CMOS battery,not holding settings,are you having any problems with the time display on the laptop,wrong times etc
By:
crediter
When: 06 Nov 09 11:47
some clever people here....well done.
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 11:47
didnt get that far.. im waiting untill it fires up again (if)..where is the settings for hibernate??
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 06 Nov 09 11:51
usually,control panel...system..power options
try to purge latent power,take battery out,unplug from mains,kep on button pressed for 30s press reset with paper clip,power up again
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 12:37
im trying all thAT,, what a GAME HEY
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 12:39
THERE ARE TWO PADLOCK ICONS BY THE POWER BUTTON AND WHEN IT DID COME ON THEY WERE LIT UP, WHEN I TRY NOW THEY DONT LIGHT UP AND THATS HOW I KNOW WHEN IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK

Sorry caps
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 06 Nov 09 12:49
it appears you press ESC as soon as you start this laptop to get into bios (wish they would standardize this!!!) if you get in go into power options in bios,try to switch off stand by/hibernate settings in there
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 06 Nov 09 12:57
catt might have found something,
click the start button.and the arrowhead next to the lock icon
also there is a power mode toggle button on this laptop look for an key wth a peson running on it
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 12:57
i will if it ever powers up again lol...
By:
ROCKIN HORSE
When: 06 Nov 09 12:58
*person running on it
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 13:00
yes there is a key with a person running on it next to the power button
By:
THE CATT
When: 06 Nov 09 13:02
arrowhead??
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