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By:
penzance
When: 14 Mar 23 15:43
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Must admit through Irish Point thought that had a bit to do
to win today.
Good to see someone different on the board though.
By:
.Marksman.
When: 14 Mar 23 15:43
The race finished an hour ago and Betfair haven't yet settled the Ante Post market...In contrast the Arkle market is done and dusted.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Nov 23 21:01
Willmount was impressive at Newbury today. He was described as "different league" by Hendo in his win. The Tolworth Hurdle would have been next but for being moved to Aintree on Boxing Day which clashes with the King George (Shishkin) at Kempton meaning Nico cannot be at both meetings on the same day.

What an interested dilemma for Nico?
By:
strontium
When: 09 Nov 23 21:13
Surely he'd ride Shishkin in that scenario.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Nov 23 22:51
I'd think so too. In the past Altior went to the Supreme Trial, and Constitution Hill to The Tolworth prior to Cheltenham Festival.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Dec 23 19:40
Willmount is running in the Claremont Novices' Hurdle at Sandown this saturday following the path of Constitution Hill two years ago. No doubt a long odds-on; Nico rides.
By:
impossible123
When: 08 Dec 23 19:32
Boom or bust tomorrow if Sandown gets the go ahead; Nico is onboard. Otherwise Tolworth at Aintree on Boxing Day (without Nico).
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Dec 23 08:40
Hendo's not deemed the heavy ground to be suitable - he's pulled out Constitution Hill and Shishkin too. That leaves The Tolworth at Aintree on Boxing Day.
By:
strontium
When: 09 Dec 23 10:06
The Tolworth has been renamed The Formby, to add insult to injury.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 Dec 23 16:37
I guess to reflect the geography of the venue ie from Kingston upon-Thames to Merseyside. Formby? I thought it was named after George Formby!
By:
strontium
When: 09 Dec 23 19:34
Other way round - he took his name from the location scrawled on the side of a coal train. Anyway, Henderson is now moaning about the logistics of getting horses to Aintree on Boxing Day....
By:
irishone
When: 10 Dec 23 13:55
He is a total nutter
By:
cobra sam
When: 12 Dec 23 16:06
He’s not punter friendly,,,,the ITV crew think the sun shines out of his rear end
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Dec 23 16:34
I think Hendo actually believes horseracing revolves around him, and not the other way round. Mr Mullins makes multiple entries for his charges. Imagine Hendo has the same number of star charges. The punters will be led a merry-go-round on virtually every one of them even before Cheltenham.
By:
duffy
When: 12 Dec 23 17:55
Mullins after stating that he is considering sending El Fabiolo to Ascot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c__-8KKbcE

Laugh
By:
irishone
When: 13 Dec 23 09:29
CH ran in it last year HEAVY
No issues
This year ..... same situ Henderson pulls it
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Dec 23 16:15
Hendo intimated at the backend of last season a "discussion" with owner of CH about a possible reroute to fences. However, he stated later it was not even discussed. I think all this was for the benefit of his bookie sponsor. I believe (I cannot be totally precise) he informed punters on his sponsor's website about Altior non-appearance at a key race against a Nicholl's runner.

In the future I'd like ask Hendo to keep his gob shut, and to allow punters to risk their money without his constant pontification about his star charges race plan.
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Dec 23 16:17
And, may I ask Shishkin without a prior race before the King George is a 'lay' for a possible non-starter - whilst under orders on track or Hendo's last minute wimp not to run eg ground/blood count/etc.
By:
duffy
When: 13 Dec 23 17:07
There was a Welsh Grand National trial run on Saturday, if that can be run 2 weeks before that slog why can't a 2 mile hurdler manage it, especially one that would have barely come off the snaff??
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Dec 23 17:28
Hendo is a creature of habit more so now than ever. I hope Hendo makes an effort of running Willmount at Aintree on Boxing Day. As for Constitution Hill I believe he does not need a prep prior to the X'mas hurdle; he's a seasoned campaigner, and has rating in his favour massively.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 14 Dec 23 10:31
It was the sensible thing to do on Saturday to scratch Constitution Hill.

Do not understand what all the fuss is about.
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Dec 23 17:20
The Formby (Tolworth) at Aintree is a 2m 4f race; the Tolworth was a 2m race. Will Willmount head there now?
By:
strontium
When: 18 Dec 23 18:08
Don't know where you saw that Impossible, it's 2 miles and half a furlong.
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Dec 23 18:27
Aintree website: start time (13:05); distance 2m 4f
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Dec 23 18:28
Sorry 'strontium' I was looking at the Grand national Meeting. Sorry, old age!
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Dec 23 18:31
No. I was correct 1st time. It's Boxing Day schedule: time (13:05); distance 2m 4f.
By:
strontium
When: 18 Dec 23 18:39
It's given as 2 miles 103 yards on the BHA fixtures site and in the pattern book.
By:
strontium
When: 18 Dec 23 20:02
The 2 1/2 mile novice grade 1 is the Challow, at Newbury, on the 30th.
By:
duffy
When: 18 Dec 23 20:22
The race that no one with any pretension on winning at the festival wants to win. Grin
By:
strontium
When: 20 Dec 23 13:01
Not entered, Impossible.
By:
impossible123
When: 20 Dec 23 15:10
'strontium' thanks. You're correct. The Formby is a 2m race. I hope Aintree has corrected their website.

I think Hendo wants Nico to ride Willmount in his next race. Any appropriate race in the New Year for him?
By:
strontium
When: 20 Dec 23 17:42
The only remaining 2 mile novice hurdle listed & pattern races before the Festival are at Haydock on Jan 20th (usually stinking ground), Exeter on Feb 11 (where Hendo usually does run a good one), and Kempton on Feb 24th. So not a lot really. He might well try to find a little race for him somewhere, or he could step up in trip.
By:
impossible123
When: 20 Dec 23 21:21
Willmount is running in the Introductory Hurdle race (12:40) at Newbury on 30th Dec.
By:
strontium
When: 21 Dec 23 12:10
Seen an interview with Hendo whining about how stupid it is that the Tolowrth has been moved to Aintree, because Willmount's owner doesn't want to go to Liverpool on Boxing Day. The bloke seems to think the entire NH calendar should revolve around his convenience. I hope his horses all get stuffed over Christmas.
By:
Bentring
When: 21 Dec 23 13:11
What about the turkey Laugh
By:
strontium
When: 21 Dec 23 13:21
I hope his turkey remains unstuffed.
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 23 19:10
'strontium', put it down to old age; some elderly can be quite demanding. However, I do not think it was Aintree. I think it's more the day of the race as Nico cannot be 2 places at the same time; I think there ought to be more Gd 1 races up North tbh.
By:
strontium
When: 21 Dec 23 19:14
Outside the Aintree festival, where there are probably too many, yes.
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 23 19:40
The Introductory Hurdle is sponsored by a bookie. The bookies are running horseracing in the UK. As such, they are dictating where and when races are run.

I speak the same lingo as the Junior Minister in Ireland on the Irish Gambling Regulation Bill.

Mr James Browne suggested the Irish Racing Industry was being led by the bookmakers. He also said only about 15 years ago advertising in horseracing events came from non-gambling companies. He said: "I know there's always been gambling with racing but this thing of being solely reliant on gambling companies is a recent event. There's a question mark there of the business sense of ending up with this narrow dependency on one industry. I think you'll find other companies who will want to go into that ad space".

I cannot agree more. The horseracing industry is lazy, and the bookies are exploiting this inadequacy of the industry. The bookies are laughing all the way to the bank using horseracing to facilitate fobt - their no 1 profit maker.
By:
strontium
When: 28 Dec 23 12:23
Interestingly, Willmount has been declared in the 2 1/2 mile Challow (G1) and Jeriko du Reponet in the introductory hurdle over 2 m.
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