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Sorry Sage.
My "why" was aimed at why you thought it strange Constitution Hill starting off over 2m 3f. Kilcruit jumped very nicely I thought. Looks like he will improve plenty for jumping and we know he has the ability. |
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If Constitution Hill is a speedy CH horse and he was not 100% fit, why run over further than he has run over hurdles before? He did run in a ptp over 3 miles and was beaten.
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Ask Hendo. I'm sure he'll concoct a convincing reason for his action.
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That would explain why he pulled him sage.
19f for an unfit horse on softish ? Yet nico let the cat out of the bag the day before Why the wait ? Poison Nicky untrustworthy AGAIN .... |
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Perhaps he was afraid of Goshen?
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Hendo talks too much these days and mainly for the benefit of bookies.
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Nicky has always prioritised Cheltenham in March and if he has a candidate for one of the 4 Championship races, he plans that horse's career around that one day. Whether you agree with that strategy or not, that is what he does. If I was lucky enough to own one of those horses, I would choose a more pragmatic trainer who would aim to maximise the number of times that the horse ran and pick up some decent prizes along the way. Paul Nicholls was Champion trainer last season precisely because he ran his horses in and won races away from Cheltenham, particularly at Aintree. This year so far, Greanateen, Frodon, Bravemansgame, Hitman and Knappers Hill have all won valuable races. None of them might be quite good enough to win a Championship race. Contrast Shishkin, Constitution Hill, Epatante, who have not run yet. There is 5 months of the season left, admittedly including most of the high profile meetings but Nicky is already 10 lengths last of the possible Champion Trainer contenders, £700k behind Nicholls. The next 2 days should improve his position somewhat.
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He is the best the British have got.
He is a drama queen though. ...... and he aint as good as he thinks he is. |
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And so the racist stuff starts already
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Beware what Hendo said about Shishkin for the Tingle Creek. Many similar statements for others eg Champ, Santini, Country House, etc - the horse did not show; a bookie's friend is always an anti-punter.
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Well two months into the season and time for a quick recap.
Not much has happened in the Supreme market bar the expensive Henderson recruit jet Powered putting in a very nice debut at Newbury on Friday. Facile Vega yet to appear. My Arkle analysis looks pretty inspired now with 14/1 on Jonbon and 33/1 (taken just last night) on Fil Dor. ![]() Banbridge was also impressive but maybe he'll step up in trip? Constitution Hill looks nailed on for the Champion barring injury. Onto Wednesday and the Ballymore is another race market that hasn't changed much but American Mike was very disappointing at Navan today and so Grangeclare West who won the novice hurdle on the same card for Mullins looks of interest. Have no strong opinion on the RSA Chase (Brown Advisory) though I see Gaillard Du Mesnil is quoted which is interesting given he was placed in it last year. He is also hot favourite for the National Hunt Chase and I personally think he could be a live e/w player in the Gold Cup - no doubt Mullins will keep us all guessing. ![]() Champion Chase market is stagnant until Shiskin and Ferny Hollow show they are alive and well. Looks like Sir Gerhard may be going chasing if the vibes from Ruby are correct. Obviously yet to jump a fence in public but 8/1 for the Turners is not bad given his bumper/hurdles form and connections. Banbridge at 12/1 is the other interesting one if they aim here. Ryanair is difficult with Allaho injured and apparently going straight there and Gallopin Du Champ allegedly being aimed at Gold Cup. I'd be tempted to play the latter now at 7/1+ as he could be odds on if he runs and Allaho doesn't. Of the rest I have a soft spot for Asterion Forlange who has the natural ability and jumped ok in the Gold Cup. 33/1 might be worth a speculative saver in the hope the above two don't show up. Stayers Hurdle looks very open with Flooring Porter getting beaten at Naas - thought he also got beat on seasonal debut last two years. Bob Olinger ran well in that same race but does he want 3m on the New Course? Thyme Hill may go back to hurdles after jumping poorly in the novice chase at Newbury on Saturday, though I'd say his chance of winning a Stayers is probably gone. Champ and Paisley Park served up a great race in the Long Distance Hurdle at Newbury - but again they have had their chances and are surely slightly on the downgrade. Blazing Khal is definitely interesting now he is definitely staying over hurdles, though it would be nice to see him on a. racecourse before taking the current prices. Was ell over him for the Potato race last year. ![]() There have been a couple of nice Juveniles out but plenty left to come and so no bet advised at this stage. The Gold Cup picture was muddied by the appalling performance of A Plus Tard at Haydock. Edgy and mulish in the prelims and struggling almost from the off. Apparently no injury or virus found which does make one think!! ![]() Protektorat won the Betfair Chase well but the form is nothing to get too carried away with - very similar to when Lostintranslation won it. L'Homme Presse won well under a big weight at Newcastle - needs rain if he is to go for the King George. |
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Good post UP - WD on Jonbon I was to late and couldn't be backing anywhere near 5/2 at the minute until we see what the Irish have to offer however Jonbon's done nothing wrong so far. Fil Dor for me looked decent enough at the weekend I still feel as though he needs a step up in trip therefore cant see him competing in an Arkle. (Not a terrible E/W price mind he is as game as they come).
I'm also with you on Gaillard Du Mesnil - I honestly think the 4/1 currently within the NH chase is pretty poor as I think he's a questionable runner - I think he's better than that but Mullins usually sets on aside for Patrick. (I backed him pretty big last year E/W at Cheltenham and I like you say I doubt you'll know for sure until the week before the races he's running in) Took an age to confirm last year! |
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Maybe Kilcruit for the amateur novice chase?
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Wonder when Ruby will tip one in that show with Lydia?
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By the way Brandy is spot on
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Really ?
He runs once jumps a clean round and thats enough for him to be the best novice chaser around. Surely if he beat honeysuckle on times over the same distant on the same day on the same ground at cheltenham he is the best novice hurdler after CH as well.... Where would we be without hype ? |
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Interesting card at Fairyhouse today with effectively four Grade 1’s - why don’t we have similar cards in England.
Lossiemouth was very impressive in the Juvenile hurdle and after Vauban last year it’s hardly surprising he is already 3/1 jolly for March. Having said that I have taken some 20/1 on Comfort Zone who finished a never nearer third. Was surprised they ran him just a week after he made an impressive debut and to me he looks like the more galloping left handed track at Cheltenham will really suit him. The Royal Bond was won by Marine Nationale who got up in the last stride - reminds me a lot of Brave Inca. But I doubt Facile Vega supporters will have been too perturbed. The Drinmore was won impressively by Mighty Potter with Gaillard Du Mesnil running well in second over an inadequate trip. Form looks strong with Banbridge well beaten in third. Might Potter was very disappointing at Cheltenham last year so I would be wary. Still think GDM is an each player in the Gold Cup if they choose that route. The Hattons Grace saw Honeysuckle beaten for the first time. No surprise to me but sadly I was all over Echoes In Rain who had just started to make her move when falling two out. No idea if she would have been involved in the photo finish but frustrating none the less. Hard to see any of them troubling Constitution Hill. Vauban is the only credible rival but I wonder if we will see him this season. |
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I'll be treating the Lossiemouth form as it stands with a deal of caution, they went very steady, miles behind the admittedly better grade 1 hurdlers and more experienced handicappers later in the card, the handicap was won in a similar time by a 123 horse carrying 10lbs more, what ever way you slice it its miles off the 150 he'd eventually have to get to to win a Triumph....obvious improvement likely of course.
Lossiemouth was a hype horse before today and that will just gather pace further now, consequently there is going to surely be value elsewhere to be had in the Triumph market through the season...just finding it being the problem. |
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Getting the fillies allowance will make her even harder to beat.
![]() However, interesting to read your analysis Duffy and it makes me even more keen to back Comfort Zone who, imo, would not have been suited by a crawl. |
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Getting the fillies allowance will make her even harder to beat.
![]() However, interesting to read your analysis Duffy and it makes me even more keen to back Comfort Zone who, imo, would not have been suited by a crawl. |
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Honeysuckle wasnt 100% . Guarenteed .
Echoes target is the mares hurdle (14\1), she got up and finished o k. Between 3 out and 2 out she was on the bridle. |
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That's the problem though....at that point, turning in, she's ALWAYS on the bridle.
![]() He still had her a bit too far back when she came down, doubtful she'd have been able to closed down that gap whilst still going easily...what would have happened then?? We'll have to wait a bit longer now to see if she is able to see her races out better. |
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Honeysuckle & Epatante,Mares Hdle or the Chmpn?
5/1 & 9/2 for the Mares atm. |
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They would retire Honeysuckle before they run her in the mares IMO, if she's gone shes gone, there would be no point in running her in the mares.
I get the logic that she's no longer good enough to compete in the CH so a drop in class will be OK, but it just doesn't work like that when it comes to it does it, the regression is always steeper than the drop in grade, she'd be a lay all day in the mares. They'll give her another run and if she's up to scratch then she will run in the CH otherwise they will retire her IMO. |
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I do not think she'd an off-day. I think it was regression. As such, a stonking lay at 10; probably not good enough to win even without Constitution Hill.
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They arent stupid and knowing that if its CH it means Constitution Hill , then the aim this year must be an absolute peak for one day in March . Not saying that hasnt been the case in the past , but more important this year .
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Echoes aint a bridle horse
You dont win the amateur race at Galway on the bridle She was well under the cosh a she hadbeen in previous races and responded well |
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Well the Xmas racing is over and not much has changed. Most of the big race favourites won, none of them doing anything especially incredible.
One horse I dabbled on the week before Christmas, after a good write up by Daryl Jacob in his Sporting Life column, was Dark Raven - managed to get £4 at an average of 214/1 for the Ballymore so was nice to see him win well on Boxing Day. Mullins suggested a step up in trip next so the dream is alive. ![]() Good to see Gaillard Du Mesnil finally get his head in front over fences - just hope they go for the Gold Cup. Guess much will depend on how Galopin Des Champs gets on. Thought Vauban ran well and would fancy him to turn the tables on State Man if they meet again in the Irish Champion. Not sure either can trouble Constitution Hill though. Lossiemouth won well again and might even be odds on for the Triumph . I was happy with Comfort Zones win at Chepstow - looked to be hosing up two out but hit the front way too soon and idled on the very soft ground.I also got the feeling that Ile Atlantique may be the Mullins number 1 for the Bumper - 12/1 with the few bookies quoting it, not in the Betfair Exchange market? |
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Another good read uncle but do try leaving out the after timing !
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uncle
From SL website Ile Atlantique was another winner at Leopardstown and showed what he’s been showing us at home. Unfortunately he had one run over hurdles in France so he’s not qualified for the championship bumpers. So we will stick down a domestic path him and hopefully he can win another bumper, if not two. |
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^Thanks golightly.
I'd read Willies comment after the race “I think he’s championship bumper class so he’ll be heading down that road. He’ll probably come back here for the Dublin Racing Festival.” - I just assumed when he said 'Championship Bumper class' he was referring to the Cheltenham bumper. Fortunately hadn't staked any money on it - though some bookies still offering odds? Obviously it could never run so anyone who had a bet on it should get it voide, but good luck trying to get your money back!! |
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impaire et passe a french bred who won his only start a bumper in nancy in the munir silks made a taking debut for willie mullins in a 2m 3f novice hurdle at naas hacking up easily by 18 lenths dont know what he beat but the moscow flyer was mentioned as a possible .
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Lossiemouths race was run very slowly once again, slower than Dark Raven's and quite a bit slower run than the novice handicappers later,but, once again she was the fastest horse,all things being equal though the Triumph will be a much stiffer test, she may well be up to it but she's getting hammered in the market without us having seen if she could cope with a stamina test on quick ground that the Triumph is likely to be.
If the Spring Juvenile is another dawdle and she wins there she will be banker material for many but I think she will also have her fair share of people putting her up as a shortie to lay come the preview nights. |
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Willie has mentioned chapeau du soleil as a bumper target horse previously , however (13\2) to overturn a significant beating by better days ahead (11\1) recently is a puzzler. Gordon knows what he has there, openly deriding the hype about willies bumper horse at fairyhouse after the Drinmore and before one of his beat Honeysuckle.
I feel the demand for backing gordons horses has dropped off since the infamous incident and this has provided a bit of value. |
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Duffy .....
"Lossiemouths race was run very slowly once again, slower than Dark Raven's and quite a bit slower run than the novice handicappers later" According to official figures ... 1st. Lossiemouth (FR) 3, gr f 10-9 (Mrs S Ricci) (4:08.4 5.92 secs slower on today's going )L 1st,Dark Raven (IRE) 5, br g 11-12 (Simon Munir) (4:10.1 7.62 secs slower on today's going ) Dark Raven ran the same course 1.7 seconds slower than Lossiemouth and half an hour previous ? The novice handicap was won in 0.8 of a second quicker , how is that quite a bit faster over a four minute race ? |
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What do they do now with the clock in Ireland duffy ?
The distances used to be accurate to half a furlong , I cant see them GPS the course before hand , having been to several Irish tracks. The starting podium is often moved between races, and over the years I have seen hurdles moved, the rail moved and fences blocked off during meetings. Never made public ...... that the distance has changed ...is it still the first horse past the starting post ? |
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Have been thinking Il Ridoto is being plotted up for the Grand Annual - similar pattern to Le Prezien
a few years ago.Will keep a close eye on him today. Sadly can’t find any bookie quoting him for the GA. |
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^Ran exactly as I hoped.
![]() If I can get 20/1+ for the Grand Annual nrnb I’ll be lumping on. |