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Thinly veiled I'm old comment ![]() |
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Think Protek going straight to Cheltenham now will help his cause.
Hes done nothing but improve for stepping up in distance, and is now rewarding his connections for the patience they have showed with him, big player imo. Chantry House is another whose improved for the step up in distance, and should be ideally suited to the Gold Cup conditions, as opposed to Kempton.Hes performed well at Cheltenham and i expect him to perform well again. Fiddler ran a good race in the RSA, and again in the Ladbroke this season, and is an interesting outsider. Really not sure about MI this year, but i do expect him to bounce back from the run at Kempton. APT has an obvious chance,and must surely go close. The one they all have to beat is Galvin imo. Hes absolutely tailor made for a Gold Cup, in form and goes straight to Cheltenham now. To be honest it looks a cracker to me this year, and whilst i think Galvin wins, i would not be shocked if either of last years 1st and 2nd won, and if Protek, CH and Fiddler continue to improve i can see either of those figuring in the finish. |
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I find its just the same as last year.
Been on galvin since last year but on the day it could be any one of four or five Its a typical irish grade one. |
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Galvin , Protektorat or Fiddlerontheroof ....the winner likely to come from these three imo.
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Fiddler on the roof ?
PMSL Tizzards one dont get three miles |
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I see it was running on in a grade 3 handicap , the mildmay,three.mile two on a flat track good to soft, I doubt Tizzard has got the cheek to actually run it in the Gold Cup
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PMSL Tizzards one dont get three miles
I must have imagined it staying on strongly in the Hennessey ...... |
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Don't see the Tizzard horse being good enough to topol the big guns.
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sixtwosix • January 23, 2022 6:15 PM GMT
PMSL Tizzards one dont get three miles I must have imagined it staying on strongly in the Hennessey Never won over 20f, not even P2P , lot of difference between h/cap chases and Grade 1s, second to next destination over 24f on heavy .....has to be on the real improve ! |
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lot of difference between h/cap chases and Grade 1s
Denman , Burrough Hill Lad , Bregawn , Miil House , Arkle .....all ran in the Hennessey ..... The race is not strong this year. Minello Indo has gone sideways , As Plus Tard does not stay 26 furlongs , As Plus Tard had his day , Chantry House has it all t0 prove .... Galvin and Protektorat are the most likely winners , Fiddlerontheroof may not be good enough as you say ......but he is the only entrant at a price who could win imo. |
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As Plus Tard had his day... I meant Al Boum Photo
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One Man won a Hennessy too , and ..... Florida Pearl won four Irish Hennessys , and ....but we wont know until he tries .
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626 think you're getting G1 horses running in h'caps and handicappers running in G1's
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^^mixed up
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paulo
One Man only had 10 stone and was rated 130 ish & the Irish Hennessey as was wasn't a handicap |
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Jodami was btn off of just 10-2 in the Hennessy.
If he runs I think Al Boum Photo will win this for the 3rd time. |
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A Plus Tard was only btn over 1L in this last year,
how don't he stay the trip? Beat Al Boum Photo and was also miles in front of Native River.Horse stays 26F. |
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Relax penzance we know he stays
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Your reliance upon handicap chase form in the UK was one of the weaknesses pointed out by the BHA in their report after last year's festival debacle.
Whilst you proudly point towards native river, denman snd bobsworth as hennesey winners in the last 20 odd years wining gold cups you by pass the reasoning of the BHA. The Irish are running in Grade 1's now ....off level weights. What I should have done was added "Irish" grade ones. My apologies. |
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Jodami had daft rides in the Hennessy and his second Gold Cup. He could gallop all day and when ridden by a conditional in a bumper and hurdles he just went from the front and had everything beaten by half way and won by 20 lengths every time. Mark Dwyer for some reason always held him up and he had no finishing speed. When he won the Gold Cup, the Pipe horse went a mad pace and only Jodami could live with him so all Jodami had to do was keep galloping when the leader ran out of gas. The next year there were about 10 horses on the bridle 3 out including the very slow Topsham Bay so Jodami got beaten by The Fellow who had a good turn of foot. Ridden from the front I don't think he would ever have been beaten.
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sage
I had Rushing Wild in my ten to follow and had it beaten Jodami I would have moved into 3rd spot and with the Grand National voided that season I would have stayed there ![]() |
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Bad luck! Have you had a prize in the ttf since? I can remember the race well. As a huge fan of Jodami, I was not sure that Rushing Wild would come back to him until the second last but the rest were nowhere. When Jodami ran at Haydock a few years later I was on track and able to stand close to him in the unsaddling after winning the Peter Marsh chase. His head was the biggest I have ever seen on a racehorse-more like a Shire horse. That was despite being descended from blue bloods like Crepello and Busted.
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No sage no joy at all. I think it was a different format originally where you could select any horse in training rather than being restricted to the Tote's list. I used to put Suluk in all my entries as you could almost guarantee 6 or 7 wins from him at Southwells jump track.
I saw Jodami win two of his three Hennessey victories at Leopardstown and the racecourse named the bar on the first floor after him although this is no more and the area restricted to members/ hospitality. |
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I used to put in Skippers Cleuch or whatever Lungo novice hurdler was n vogue as you knew he'd rack up a few gimmes up north before facing anything half decent and when he did send them down south and in Skipper's case he got found out as kicking the hurdles out of the way wasn't conducive to beating the big guns.
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Don't see the Tizzard horse being good enough to topol the big guns.
Ha ha ha. Someone should acknowledge this excellent pun. |
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youd think fiddler on the roof would have to work hard to win the gold cup.
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Thanks Pete
![]() Foyles got it too by the looks of it ![]() |
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Much looking forward to this race. I'm expecting a new Champion either APT or Galvin given connections of Champ has chickened out. And, I think Chantry House will be a back-number even if he turn up on given form; Minella Indo is not the same horse as last season unless he redeems himself big time in the Irish Gold Cup this saturday.
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Didn’t see Robbie Power on Minella in Irish Gold Cup. Wouldn’t Rachael ride in case anything happened to APT ?
Seems Henry has has reading the forum that she should be kept well away from him ![]() |
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Great decision by De Bromhead, some jockeys just don’t get on with particular horses.
Good to see trainer and owners having some balls rather than just keeping with Blackmore. She’s still the best around imo, but just like it’s horses for courses, it can pay to look at jockey and horse pairings. |
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I've not seen who the pilot on Minella Indo (MI) either. I understand Ms Blackmore has ridden a couple of injudicious races on him nevertheless, stable pilot ought to be on the stable's sole runner.
Does that mean Ms Blackmore will not be onboard either if A Plus Tard (APT) is an absentee and/or if Kennedy is "released" by Elliot/Gigginstown and/or Delta Work is scratched?; 10% of £140k euro is a sizeable sum to forego even for Ms Blackmore. I'd like to see Bryony/Frodon do the business again, mind saying Kemboy but an extremely difficult horse to catch right. Minella Indo?? |
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the owner probably wants someone who's available
for the Gold Cup. He was unhappy about Blackmore picking A Plus Tard over Minello Indo last year aswell, I think. |
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Yeah the owner basically took full responsibility for all of De Bromheads winner last March, apparently helping with planning!!!
Sounds like something I’d do tbf lol, slightly arrogant. |
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I would not have much confidence in Frodon or any of de Bromhead's runners on recent stable form. I would not be surprised if Elliott and Mullins win all of the Group 1 races between them at Leopardstown.
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Aside from the winner today I thought it was a very encouraging run from MI, I question if they went that quick and while Conflated showed some pace to get away, MI was at first getting hampered by a back pedalling Frodon and then got momentarily held up by Kemboy. He then attempted to get after Conflated and it looked for a moment promising before the effort of a practical 2 furlong sprint took it's toll and he flattened out late.
Still, he jumped well and in this race last year Henry stated that he was happy for it to be a confidence booster and I reckon he'd be delighted with how it went today on that front. Puts him right back in the picture going back to the place we know he excels at. I think as the festival approaches he is only going to strengthen in the market. |
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Conflated is the only horse to take from this race. He was given a dream ride by Russell keeping to the inside throughout, and is improving; Minella Indo had every chance and ran much better than in the King George; Kemboy lost all chance by jumping repeatedly to the right and keeping wide.
I think the proximity of Janidil to Minella Indo was telling for the latter. |
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More forum bolleaux in abundance
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Conflated won a comparative speed test today, and it is no coincidence that the winner of this race has a poor record in Gold Cups. My concern as an admitted MI fan (and nothing against Robbie Power) is that I did not believe for one minute that Power would keep the ride in the GC with Kennedy likely being available, but Conflated has thrown a spanner in the works now.
However I have a sneaky suspicion in the way that Elliott answered the GC question afterwards that he wouldn't fancy his chances against Galvin and CO in a GC and if he had his way wouldn't necessarily run him but the trainer will have a job on his hands convincing Gigginstown not to run. However 10/1 NRNB for Conflated in the Ryanair is interesting to me to win their own race where as usual most in the betting won't run, if he did run he'd be a clear 2nd fav. For now I've had a few speculative quid on him at 17 in the without Allaho market on the exchange, but I do expect Giggy to run him in the GC but I think the prices on offer make it worth a speculative bet. |
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Conflated was quicker than Blue Lord and A wave by the sea by a full second from two out! Not bad for a horse that had ran a mile further than those two course winners on the same card.
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It was a slow race and turned in to a dash at the end. Russell caught them out!
Russell will ride Galvin Rachael on APT Kennedy on any Gigginstown horse (if they have one and Conflated runs, I'd say Gigginstown will have a runner) Power on Minella Indo |