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jimnast
01 Mar 21 18:22
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pretty weak in the arkle betting out to 4.1 perhaps the marsh ?
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Report FOYLESWAR March 1, 2021 6:32 PM GMT
think its the elliott thing ,uncertainty of his horses possibly not coming over
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 6:42 PM GMT
yes i think that will be the reason foyles if envoi did not travel {highly unlikely}the marsh would be the easier option,hopefully it does not come to that,betting aside we want to see him race in the arkle.
Report FOYLESWAR March 1, 2021 7:18 PM GMT
yes jim hope they all turn up as the arkle is looking the race of the festival .
Report jimnast March 1, 2021 7:54 PM GMT
thought the ballymore was very interesting hard to split the front 3 but yes at the moment the arkle clash looks the highlight.
Report irishone March 1, 2021 8:13 PM GMT
Gordon wont be there but his horses may be.
Byrnes is still training
Under a different name
Report Bentring March 1, 2021 8:36 PM GMT
Is it possible it can be new name on licence as not fair on the prominent and other owners in the stable
Report Bentring March 1, 2021 8:37 PM GMT
That's not directly at imp
Report HistoricWarwick March 2, 2021 10:30 PM GMT
I can see the Arkle being decided at the second last - no matter where they put it that fence on the old course is more often than not the deciding factor over 2 miles. Which is why it is a watch for me.
Report Fashion Fever March 3, 2021 3:18 PM GMT
surely been trained for speed and quick jumping can't go marsh
Report duffy March 3, 2021 3:28 PM GMT
I can't see how giving the license to someone else in the same stable is going to be good enough, the whole stable is tarnished by this, how are we supposed to know who is innocent and who is guilty.

The video of the young jockey from 4 years ago raises the question that this behaviour is endemic, I mean, who is setting the example that he thinks that behaviour is acceptable.
Report irishone March 3, 2021 3:51 PM GMT
"The whole stable is tarnished by this"

Jesus wept. The trainer has held his hands up and said sorry it was his stupidity. How can you tarnish anyone else ?
Report GAZO March 3, 2021 3:52 PM GMT
has the marsh been mentioned ? i have not seen anything
Report Fashion Fever March 3, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
around the 8 mark taken for marsh I was going on
Report GAZO March 3, 2021 4:23 PM GMT
must be in case envoi allen doesnt run with the move,i suppose it wouldnt be a shock if he did pull out and he changed races
Report penzance March 3, 2021 4:56 PM GMT
could be wrong but I would expect Envoi Allen
to run and run in the race he was targeted at.
Cheltenham's a fortnight away,why change the
plan now?
Report GAZO March 3, 2021 5:00 PM GMT
not envoi allen,energumene could switch if envoi allen doesnt run
Report penzance March 3, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
sorry Gazo
thought you was on about Envoi Allen.
Report jimnast March 3, 2021 10:00 PM GMT
around 3.6 again now
Report impossible123 March 8, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
Not flavour of the moment at 4.1 now. I think it's only prudent and wise to back him on the day. The stable is iffy eg French Aseel and Benie Des Dieux. Also, possible engagement in The Marsh despite market indicating otherwise.
Report jimnast March 8, 2021 5:34 PM GMT
i backed french aseel soon after they crossed the line at christmas well aware the horse was trained in a small yard with very little experience of big occasions ,so when a couple of weeks later the horse went to willie mullins it put a spring in my step and the 14/1 was looking even better,oh well thats racing.
Report impossible123 March 11, 2021 10:29 PM GMT
He's been matched at 4.7 from 3.8 earlier; £33 in total up to 9.8 with no taker after. But, money for Shishkin.
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 8:30 AM GMT
4.1 4.3 this morning ,bit inconclusive really,it would be a shame if the horse did not run,we are due a good arkle and this had looked like been one.
Report Hibore March 12, 2021 10:30 AM GMT
Out of the Arkle. Not sure details
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2021 10:31 AM GMT
bollux! that hurts!
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 10:45 AM GMT
ffs yet another weak arkle
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 10:46 AM GMT
thyme hill weak also
Report strontium March 12, 2021 10:56 AM GMT
A great shame.
Report impossible123 March 12, 2021 10:58 AM GMT
Oh dear! Another disgusting incident at Closutton. A drifter the last few days culminating in being matched at 4.7 from 3.8 yesterday. Bingo! He's lame and out of Cheltenham.

Normally I'd commiserate with connections, not this time. His stable stinks: Benie De Dieux, French Aseel and now Energumene, every one 'lay' till confirmation of non-participation a few days later.
Report mcgoldrick March 12, 2021 10:59 AM GMT
does he miss festival altogether?
Report impossible123 March 12, 2021 10:59 AM GMT
Yes. Energumene is lame!
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 11:03 AM GMT
i feel a bit lame myself now ,thyme hill 10 to bet 50 to lay if anybody need 2 quidCry
Report mcgoldrick March 12, 2021 11:06 AM GMT
Think that stayers hurdle is wide open now
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 11:08 AM GMT
ffs somebody took the 2 quid i wonder why the didnt want to lay the 4/1 its been for 3 months.
Report impossible123 March 12, 2021 11:09 AM GMT
Met with a setback then went lame. A setback during work? If so, why was it not reported? Why wait till he was lame? In that period Energumene drifted and 'lay' accordingly.
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 11:31 AM GMT
March 1st thread started
Report Anyska March 12, 2021 11:48 AM GMT
pity, shiskin going to have it his own way now
Report strontium March 12, 2021 11:50 AM GMT
Still a tactically interesting race - Allmankind will likely blast off, and Shiskin seems to race lazily for the first mile (the end of his races is much the best part).
Report differentdrum March 12, 2021 11:55 AM GMT
Yes, it just means Allmankind can go that bit slower. Personally, I think he will blow out again and probably not even place. The question for me is whether something can sit in behind the leader and then get the jump on Shishkin. If they do perhaps they can draw a mistake and the favourite might not be able to close the gap. I don't think Shishkin's jumping is as solid as everyone else seems to believe. He has thrown in the exhibition stuff when races have effectively been over. Mid race he looked iffy against Gumball.
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2021 11:57 AM GMT
swings and roundabouts it a blow for me but take it on the chin ,i had it go my way in the ark and tingle creek so cant complain too loudly
Report strontium March 12, 2021 11:59 AM GMT
Agree differentdrum. Was the same in the first half of the Supreme.
Report duffy March 12, 2021 2:24 PM GMT
Usual story in the days leading up to the festival, always lose a big hitter or two, disappointing for the stayers and a disaster for the ArkleSad
Report jimnast March 12, 2021 3:19 PM GMT
Well put Duffy disappointing and a disaster Sad
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