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jimnast
01 Mar 21 18:22
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pretty weak in the arkle betting out to 4.1 perhaps the marsh ?

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By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 01 Mar 21 18:32
think its the elliott thing ,uncertainty of his horses possibly not coming over
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Mar 21 18:42
yes i think that will be the reason foyles if envoi did not travel {highly unlikely}the marsh would be the easier option,hopefully it does not come to that,betting aside we want to see him race in the arkle.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 01 Mar 21 19:18
yes jim hope they all turn up as the arkle is looking the race of the festival .
By:
jimnast
When: 01 Mar 21 19:54
thought the ballymore was very interesting hard to split the front 3 but yes at the moment the arkle clash looks the highlight.
By:
irishone
When: 01 Mar 21 20:13
Gordon wont be there but his horses may be.
Byrnes is still training
Under a different name
By:
Bentring
When: 01 Mar 21 20:36
Is it possible it can be new name on licence as not fair on the prominent and other owners in the stable
By:
Bentring
When: 01 Mar 21 20:37
That's not directly at imp
By:
HistoricWarwick
When: 02 Mar 21 22:30
I can see the Arkle being decided at the second last - no matter where they put it that fence on the old course is more often than not the deciding factor over 2 miles. Which is why it is a watch for me.
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 03 Mar 21 15:18
surely been trained for speed and quick jumping can't go marsh
By:
duffy
When: 03 Mar 21 15:28
I can't see how giving the license to someone else in the same stable is going to be good enough, the whole stable is tarnished by this, how are we supposed to know who is innocent and who is guilty.

The video of the young jockey from 4 years ago raises the question that this behaviour is endemic, I mean, who is setting the example that he thinks that behaviour is acceptable.
By:
irishone
When: 03 Mar 21 15:51
"The whole stable is tarnished by this"

Jesus wept. The trainer has held his hands up and said sorry it was his stupidity. How can you tarnish anyone else ?
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Mar 21 15:52
has the marsh been mentioned ? i have not seen anything
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 03 Mar 21 16:09
around the 8 mark taken for marsh I was going on
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Mar 21 16:23
must be in case envoi allen doesnt run with the move,i suppose it wouldnt be a shock if he did pull out and he changed races
By:
penzance
When: 03 Mar 21 16:56
could be wrong but I would expect Envoi Allen
to run and run in the race he was targeted at.
Cheltenham's a fortnight away,why change the
plan now?
By:
GAZO
When: 03 Mar 21 17:00
not envoi allen,energumene could switch if envoi allen doesnt run
By:
penzance
When: 03 Mar 21 17:04
sorry Gazo
thought you was on about Envoi Allen.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Mar 21 22:00
around 3.6 again now
By:
impossible123
When: 08 Mar 21 17:13
Not flavour of the moment at 4.1 now. I think it's only prudent and wise to back him on the day. The stable is iffy eg French Aseel and Benie Des Dieux. Also, possible engagement in The Marsh despite market indicating otherwise.
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 21 17:34
i backed french aseel soon after they crossed the line at christmas well aware the horse was trained in a small yard with very little experience of big occasions ,so when a couple of weeks later the horse went to willie mullins it put a spring in my step and the 14/1 was looking even better,oh well thats racing.
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Mar 21 22:29
He's been matched at 4.7 from 3.8 earlier; £33 in total up to 9.8 with no taker after. But, money for Shishkin.
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 08:30
4.1 4.3 this morning ,bit inconclusive really,it would be a shame if the horse did not run,we are due a good arkle and this had looked like been one.
By:
Hibore
When: 12 Mar 21 10:30
Out of the Arkle. Not sure details
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Mar 21 10:31
bollux! that hurts!
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 10:45
ffs yet another weak arkle
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 10:46
thyme hill weak also
By:
strontium
When: 12 Mar 21 10:56
A great shame.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Mar 21 10:58
Oh dear! Another disgusting incident at Closutton. A drifter the last few days culminating in being matched at 4.7 from 3.8 yesterday. Bingo! He's lame and out of Cheltenham.

Normally I'd commiserate with connections, not this time. His stable stinks: Benie De Dieux, French Aseel and now Energumene, every one 'lay' till confirmation of non-participation a few days later.
By:
mcgoldrick
When: 12 Mar 21 10:59
does he miss festival altogether?
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Mar 21 10:59
Yes. Energumene is lame!
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 11:03
i feel a bit lame myself now ,thyme hill 10 to bet 50 to lay if anybody need 2 quidCry
By:
mcgoldrick
When: 12 Mar 21 11:06
Think that stayers hurdle is wide open now
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 11:08
ffs somebody took the 2 quid i wonder why the didnt want to lay the 4/1 its been for 3 months.
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Mar 21 11:09
Met with a setback then went lame. A setback during work? If so, why was it not reported? Why wait till he was lame? In that period Energumene drifted and 'lay' accordingly.
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Mar 21 11:31
March 1st thread started
By:
Anyska
When: 12 Mar 21 11:48
pity, shiskin going to have it his own way now
By:
strontium
When: 12 Mar 21 11:50
Still a tactically interesting race - Allmankind will likely blast off, and Shiskin seems to race lazily for the first mile (the end of his races is much the best part).
By:
differentdrum
When: 12 Mar 21 11:55
Yes, it just means Allmankind can go that bit slower. Personally, I think he will blow out again and probably not even place. The question for me is whether something can sit in behind the leader and then get the jump on Shishkin. If they do perhaps they can draw a mistake and the favourite might not be able to close the gap. I don't think Shishkin's jumping is as solid as everyone else seems to believe. He has thrown in the exhibition stuff when races have effectively been over. Mid race he looked iffy against Gumball.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Mar 21 11:57
swings and roundabouts it a blow for me but take it on the chin ,i had it go my way in the ark and tingle creek so cant complain too loudly
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