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stayers ....2021
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would agree that ronald pump is interesting for March, as I think he's still unexposed at three miles plus
like the trainer too, but he still appears to be under the radar to an extent |
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Paisley Park can sleep easy in his box after today. The touted Irish big two were major disappointments, to say the least.
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PMSL
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Paisley Park, Mr Gemmell and Ms Lavell just turn up, and the race is yours. Nothing to fear from across the Irish water after today.
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Bank job then keep the mask on
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So what was so bad that you dismiss the Irish challenge so readily?
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the 1 st or 2nd fav didnt win so are obviously useless and he has backed paisley park and its fav so stands to reason it must win and anything other than the fav are wasting their time coming over . same with the gold cup he has backed the 1st 3 in the betting so only one of those can win ,we are not worthy and should give the game up pronto!
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tears of cheltenham thread
tears if sishkin or envoi dont win |
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Shishkin and Envoi Allen were 14/1 with 'billies' for a win double in any race at the Festival. Now 8/11 and 1/1 respectively. I just want them to show, win or lose.
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Foyles
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14/1 to win any race the double very generous ,you can certainly spot the value like you did backing enable to win a breeders cup after winning that newcastle maiden.
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fury road has drifted back out to 20s on the back of an indifferent run at a course that didnt seem to suit have gone in again each way , many of gordons not running that well either .
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Astute when he turns up. You can always 'lay' some off to get a free bet and possible profit.
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FOYLESWAR 05 Jan 21 16:12
fury road has drifted back out to 20s on the back of an indifferent run at a course that didnt seem to suit have gone in again each way , many of gordons not running that well either . I think the same with Abacadabras 16's is a mad price I think, he never went a yard the other day, way too bad to be true for me. |
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yes duffy he is an attractive price now each way imo.
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just had a bit more on fury road each way at 20s ,the albert bart form looks strong and 20/1 value imo ,thyne hill 7/2 4th in bartlet fury road 2nd 20/1 go figga ? i know it dont always work out and thyne hill may have improved but fury road has hardly regressed , we know paisley parks level and he is obviously very good but using thyne hills and paisleys last run there is not much between the 3 at all .
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Ive topped up at 20 as well Foyles, 20/1 too big.
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Thyme Hill had absolutely no chance from the last in the AB as the race was run. Not one of Dickie's better days.
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Rokssana is yet another bid advert for the form of the 2 best 3 mile hurdlers around. She laughed at Magic of Life who is far from useless. Barring injuries or serious errors in running, I can't see past PP or Thyme Hill.
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Kellys one might figure after the Cleeve
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Itchy Feet looks an interesting one back over hurdles, think he should stay 3m ok.
33 available last time i checked. Hopefully the Cleeve can be rearranged next week. |
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Fences and back to hurdles? Would that not have dented his speed to an extent? Buveur D'Air was rerouted after showing an indifference to fencing. Also, that decision was encouraged by the dominance of Altior over 2m chases.
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Imp, I am putting up a 33 shot that may well shorten and could be interesting. Up to you if you think I’m nuts!!
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I am sure that potential outsiders will emerge but the history of the Stayers shows that only a very few horses have both the speed and the stamina to compete in this category. Big Bucks, Inglis Drever, Iris's Gift, Baracouda and Even Cole Harden dominated the grade in the year or years that they won. Paisley Park did that 2 years ago but for whatever reason ran poorly last year allowing a much slower horse in Lisnagar Oscar to take the prize. Every piece of form this season to date has shown Paisley Park to be one of the elite group with only Thyme Hill able to seriously challenge. Those 2 have seen off McFabulous and Roksana who in turn have laughed at any other GB contenders. With no competition to compare GB with Irish form that raises a doubt but I would be going 14/1 bar 2 if both turn up fit and well.
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Agree
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I also thick Itchy is very interesting tomorrow. Like Bud I'm not saying he will win the stayers but a classy type IMO who has jumped appalling this term
What choice does the trainer/owner have in these circumstances? Reverting back to hurdles and stepping up to 3 miles may be the making of him. |
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Well they could also call the vet?
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Paisley drifting today. Thyme just about fav on here now.....
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No news. Nthing to worry about, I think. It's the customary market manipulation. I managed to get some Paisley Park at 5.2/5.1 and 5 just last week.
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Not sure I follow Rebecca Curtis' logic with regard to the decision not to run Lisnagar Oscar with top weight on heavy going in a Pertemps qualifier at Exeter on 14th February citing she "didn't want to run him with top weight in that ground".
She is however happy to run him with top weight in bottomless ground in the Rendlesham at Haydock on 20th February. Ok he'll be carrying a few lbs less but the Rendlesham is a Grade 2 and he'll be up against better horses than he would've faced at Exeter and will have 6 days less recovery time. |
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Drastic time requires drastic measure - Cheltenham is around the corner. The higher grade and prize money are added bonus probably.
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I think market manipulation is at play on Thyme Hill. A few days ago it was Paisley Park; 6 and 5 respectively exude value for the top 2 in the market, I reckon.
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If I was pricing up the Stayers now it would be 9/4 Paisley Park, 5/2 Thyme Hill, 12/1 Roksana nrnb, 14/1 any individual Irish runner and 25/1 bar.
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Yep, PP is not with a high-profile trainer other 2/1 at best; 11/4 Thyme Hill, 12/1 bar.
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cashed out a lot of my ante post fury road bets at 20/1 ,gordon has said he is in 2 minds to miss cheltenham and wait for one of the other festivals ,he will see how he goes today at navan and decide later . have backed him nrnb at a lower price 16s lads,
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good run by lisnagar oscar giving the winner 6 pound he is firmly in the mix , in the pertemps last year sire du berlais beat yesterdays winner third wind 8 lengths giving him 11 pound ,that looks very solid form.
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Ronald Pump has suffered a setback which has ruled him out of the Paddy Power Stayers’ Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.
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fury road confirmrd for this! as said cashed out a lot of my bets on the news he may miss the stayers and went back in again last night at 20/1 nrnb each way ,finished ahead of thyne hill in spuds and a whisker behind monkfish 365 have cut it to 16s now .
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Thyme Hill a confirmed non-runner. He's a muscle issue.
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