Cheltenham Festival
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07 Feb 19
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/racing-in-britain-cancelled-following-equine-influenza-outbreak/365303
Australia had this racing was stopped for 7 weeks!!
Australia had this racing was stopped for 7 weeks!!
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Yes you cannot contain flu in a few days- hoping it's just a week but what yards are affected??
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Surely it will be cancelled indefinitely then, nothing is going to change in one day.
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Doesn't look good. No information on the origins of the three affected horses. Hope they weren't from different stables. In any case I can see a lockdown lasting weeks if not months.
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Looks like all three were from McCain's yard.
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The problem seems to be about the vaccine not working. If they find that a bad batch of vaccine is the culprit then they might be able to resume. Otherwise it could be weeks.
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I could get paid thousands in my antepost non runners
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Sporting Life : "The British Horseracing Authority (BHA) made the decision on Wednesday night after the Animal Health Trust confirmed three positives tests from vaccinated horses in an active racing yard."
Racing Post : "This is following the BHA being informed this evening by the Animal Health Trust of three confirmed Equine Influenza positives from vaccinated horses in an active racing yard. Horses from the infected yard have raced today at Ayr and Ludlow," In summary, Life talks about 3 positive tests, Post refers to horses from one affected yard. McCain had a runner at each track but only 2 in total so either it's not his yard or the journalism is rubbish. Either way it seems odd that Thurles is going ahead as Elliot has numerous runners declared and had numerous runners at Ayr including one in the race where McCain's horse trailed in last. |
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Unless the tests were performed on 3 McCain horses at home and not including those that ran yesterday.
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Let's not be too pessimistic.
Losing Cheltenham would be just about the biggest disaster you could get. I am sure everyone will realise that and do everything possible to make sure it doesn't happen. The immediate problem is for those horses who may well be forced to miss a prep run. Several high profile names amongst that list. If Ireland continues to race then they might have an advantage, particularly as they have just had their main trial's meetings. |
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It's not just whether the festival goes ahead, it could still go ahead but if connections have been disrupted with regards to prep runs and training regimes leading up to it how satisfactory will it be, lots of contenders might not even turn up if they're not ready...who knows???
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foot and mouth wiped out one festival, and now this
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If they don't find any new cased by Tuesday next, they may decide to resume on Thursday 14th but if there are some positives in any other yard we could be in for a very long break.
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Duffy
Thinking that myself The runners on Saturday must be affected in relation to the festival. Has to be a negative for the likes of NR and CDO chances in the Gold Cup for example. They will be running to put themselves spot on for March,and no doubt others as well. All about timing for some horses preps. |
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bud,
They're trained to the minute aren't they, how many times do we hear that such and such missed one gallop and that cost it, well missing a run must be a huge negative, and we don't even know how long racing will be off for yet, they've called racing off until Wednesday at the earliest, that's buying time but I wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next few days there is a further announcement extending the cancellation and we'll be 4 weeks away at that point. |
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Absolutely mate.
We have Ascot next Saturday and Kempton the week after,these would probably be the last realistic dates with Cheltenham in mind. Horse that needed a race this weekend could be entered in either of those meetings,but the races scheduled have to suit the horses. Guess they could reschedule some of the races at Newbury this weekend for Ascot next week? Also the option for all weather jumper bumpers? |
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The problem is though is that how can they even think about rescheduling when they don't even know how long the cancellation is going to last, I'm half expecting a further delay to be announced in the coming days.
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This has come on the back of a Winter where many horses have already missed engagements due to unsuitable ground.
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Twice in recent years this Newbury fixture was postponed 2011 frost 2012 electric on both occasions the Denman Chase and the Betfair hurdle were ran at Newbury the following friday
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Yes but they were isolated situations, we don't even know the extent to what we're dealing with here, racing is off until next Wednesday at the earliest!!
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Yeh, fair points.
What a mess!!! |
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I think it would not affect NR and CDO; the former only had one run prior to winning at Cheltenham last season; the latter, according to trainer, would not want a fight with NR in the Denman, and go well fresh.
I just hope Cheltenham goes ahead otherwise all the hard work and effort put into assembling my antepost portfolio (goodies) would be in vain. Of course the welfare of the horses come 1st, but the bookies........nah! |
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Nicholls said the race would put CDO ripe for the festival,or words to that affect.
NR ran at Newbury last season. I completely disagree,think both horses wanted this race for their festival chances,which is why they were entered. |
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Duffy if racing resumes on Wednesday then I should think Newbury would take place at some stage failing that the Denman Chase or something similar will be run soon after the restart .
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Lets hope so Foxy
Must admit right now i aint confident at all we will be racing next weekend. |
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Fingers crossed bud a big worry is if it does drag on the Irish may stop there horses coming over as they were going to in 2001 before we were silenced by the lambs
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Ante-post bets are subject to all sorts of stupid rules if Chelts is postponed. It's time to read the small
print on every AP voucher you hold, if this carries on. |
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no action berfore 13 Feb is the latest
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99% of all antepost bets carry the same rule, if a race is rescheduled to run at the same venue all bets stand run or not, if cancelled indefinitely or rescheduled at a different venue i.e betfair hdl at Ascot lets say all antepost are void including any non runners.
I hope they put it on for my pocket as i'm sitting on 10/1 & 17/2 Al Dancer and Getaway Trump but also 25/1 Lisp and 33/1 Countister  each way of courseWelfare of the horses come first though just to be clear i have done a couple non runners too namely Thomas Darby and Grand Sancy I'm also sitting on one of my worst Chelters portfolios of many a year having many early season wagers wiped out before the end of January which don't happen often, in fact ever |
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Feck the bets
31 a hit that vaccine Who do you sue ? The vet or the drug company about to brexit ? |
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Cough and flu dont know the horses
Are k g or gold cup winners It spreads like wildfire It will be over here now Guaranteed ..... |
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I know a guy who is heavily into Beuver dere apples jade ( mares ) And Altior treble pays him 22k think he staked about 750 he’s been telling every one his bet is as good as up,that is untill Apples Jade was decided to run in the champion hurdle
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how will they they contain it ? isolation hopefully but as irishone says it spreads like wildfire and the horse may have bolted to coin a phrase
! and a vet on bbc tv has just said its like all flu can be carried on clothes ,equipment ,airborne etc |
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The very fact we know about it means they havent contained it
They cant afford for this to get out All paperwork over here is designed to track down exactly where equine diseases start. Trouble is owners trainers have to keep them up to date If it was one the trainer could have contained it He wouldnt want this The fact its evolved has meant he couldnt contain it quietly within the stable The stables who had horses running in the same races will be being closely watched but by the time the containment infra structure has been put in placd the virus would havebeen spread |
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If it is a new strain , how long to produce a suitable vaccine?
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It takes forever to produce new vaccines because the pharmaceuticals can't be bothered as there is no money in it for them, unlike in humans the horse population isn't great enough for them to be incentivised enough to produce new vaccines.
I suggest anyone who hasn't done so already listening to the most recent "Final Furlong" podcast where they were joined by a Veterinary officer from the IHRB who deals with the issue. |
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Lemsip works on ponies
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Another case up north now
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Whats yer gut feeling Irish?
Mine is a bit pessimistic to be honest |