Cheltenham Festival
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 254 comments are related to the topic:
Annie Power question
Annie Power question
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 254
|
By:
Some things some of you denigrating those of us who are voicing concerns need to understand:
Some of us are not engaged ante post on the race. Some of us have no bet on Annie Power at all. Some of us want to see the best and most exciting races. Some of us want to see consistency. Two years ago many of us argued that Annie Power running in the Champion Hurdle would have added a dimension to the race which would have seen interest in the race reach a new peak. This year the race was going to be a Faugheen procession according to most people. Had connections said that they wanted to give the racing pubic the best races they could have entered Annie in the Champion with a view to her taking on Faugheen and that would once again have raised interest in the race exponentially even if most would have thought Faugheen would still have won. At least they would have been walking her through the front door instead of waiting to see if a window had been left open and then possibly squeezing her through it. What is racing if it isn't the thrill of the best taking on the best? So please no more lectures about pocket talking and all the rest. |
|
By:
The aim of the idea was to get the best horses in the race and to improve prize money. The same applies for both flat and NH. A 3yo suddenly strikes form and wins the Dante and connections suddenly realise they possibly have a derby winner on their hands is not unlike the scenario wrt to Faugheens withdrawal in that horses who had very little chance of winning the race now have a much better chance - nearly anything could win it now. I couldnt buy the I forgot argument as ever being a valid excuse for anything.
Tbh I'll be very surprised AP runs in the CH but it is the owner and trainers right to enter and run her if they so wish. |
|
By:
Of course that is their right Arkle and it is our right to question why they weren't prepared to take on Faugheen or Hurricane Fly before him?
|
|
By:
Eet I have no argument with our/your right to question but thats about as far as it goes. The connections have broken no laws or rules whatsoever and have the right not to reply also. Cyclops says it all in a few words.
|
|
By:
I'm not aware of anybody claiming they have broken any laws or rules Arkle.
|
|
By:
Eeternal, do you really think that Ricci, with the Champion his for the taking, would put another horse in the race if she has the option of winning either the stayers' or the mares' just for the good of the race?
He'd be a very strange man if he did. None of us would. Flyingbolt would have taken on Arkle in the Gold Cup had he not been trained by the same man. Instead, he had to make do with winning the Champion Chase and being runner up in the Champion Hurdle. And he had a different owner; top stables want to win as many big pots as they can. I'm certainly not denigrating you, but it seems a very odd argument and wholly unrealistic to me. |
|
By:
Just as matter of interest Supplementaries were introduced initially for flat race group ones and 3 years later they were introduced specifically for the main races at Cheltenham to ensure the leading horses run in those races. Supplementaries are used throughout Europe and are not going away. It may surprise some people on here that the main arguments against them is that the fees are too high! - I'm only the messenger here so everyone please hold your fire!
|
|
By:
I thought the posts from yesterday afternoon were offbeat, but then i read the last 50 and they're in another dimension altogether.
 |
|
By:
@Arkle - except for your posts. Nice job.
|
|
By:
cyclops
Eeternal, do you really think that Ricci, with the Champion his for the taking, would put another horse in the race if she has the option of winning either the stayers' or the mares' just for the good of the race? He'd be a very strange man if he did. None of us would. You can speak for you and I can speak for me. Neither of us can say what other people would do. If I was a billionaire who chose to put my money into racing it would be because I love racing. I wouldn't need the prize money. I'd love to win the biggest prizes. That and promoting the best of the sport would be my personal priority. Beyond that I'd like to think I'd be seen as consistent and do what was in the best interests of my horses. I thought it in the best interest of the sport and arguably the horse to go for the Champion against Hurricane Fly. It didn't happen. I'd have celebrated them taking on Faugheen to generate interest in the sport as long as she was fit and ready. This belated scrambling around for baubles now Faugheen is out is inconsistent, doesn't help some of the sports biggest fans (ante post punters) and a little unseemly in my view. But like I said I can only speak for my own view which as I've said is principled rather than pocket generated. |
|
By:
Thanks Maelduin
|
|
By:
it come will come down to if ruby wants to ride her in the champion ? she wont be supplemented if ruby chooses AF or NC
|
|
By:
Personally thought it could have been a good discussion, in parts it was.
But there yer go. Still,nice to see posters whose comments on here I have respected over the years understanding my points and seeing where I was coming from. FF,been thinking about that,and to be honest I could see reasons to choose all 3,and reasons to choose none of them!! |
|
By:
i don't understand the problem... willie has said if annie power preps the world hurdle would be an option
 personally i think faugheen has been lame for a while judging by the betting and they knew they couldn't go to the champion hurdle without prepping annie power, hence she was suddenly entered up to give them options...i have no doubt that if all was well with the good horse they would of just gone straight to the mares race should she run in the champion hurdle? up to them and she certainly wouldn't be out of place, although i have always seen her as a 2m4f horse so if she were mine she would go to the mares race then to aintree over the same distance no vested interest but i'd like her to go for the champion as she will make the market as i'm not that keen on her winning over the distance and we can take this vroum vroum mare on in the mares race of which the books have put her in ridiculously short for what she has actually achieved |
|
By:
PP - What Race will Annie Power Run in at the Cheltenham Festival?
CH 1/3 MH 11/4 WH 5/1 |