Cheltenham Festival
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11 Feb 16
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If you think a horse has more chance at Cheltenham having had a run (which Mullins obviously does or he wouldn't have said its the Mares unless they can get a run in first to go for the harder World) and Patrick Mullins has said today she is 100% and Ruby is happy with her, why would he also say she probably won't take up her entry next week and go straight to Cheltenham?
Can understand if they said she was 80% and getting there, but if she's 100% I don't see the benefit of not running. Anyone?
Can understand if they said she was 80% and getting there, but if she's 100% I don't see the benefit of not running. Anyone?
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Perhaps she's difficult to get back to 100% level and with there just being a 4 week window to get her back to 100% they're playing it safe?
Not sure why they haven't had a run with her all season though, guess they used to do the same with Quevega |
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There's an article saying she might race at Punchestown though next week?
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She's entered but Patrick Mullins said she's unlikely to take it up.
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Even though she's spot on and they are happy with her.
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I suppose the only possible reason could be that they think she's become quite frail and doesn't take her racing that well? I know her earlier career suggests otherwise, but can't think of anything else that adds up!
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Love top see her have a crack at the world hurdle and give VVM a run in the mares.
Not likely to happen though. CCM are you going the festival? We will be down for all 4 days. Maybe meet for a pint, but try not to talk about Liverpool  |
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Yep down there all week mate. Ok sound.
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Rich ricci did say in several interviews that she has two options, saying that at the moment it's the mares, but if they can get a run into her before hand then the world hdl! I've got a funny feeling given rr said that they might be pondering the idea vvm mares, ap world again? We'll soon know I suppose but also given an interview on atr earlier in January Patrick mullins says his dad changes his mind more often than the weather and can't even figure out whether it's marmalade or cereal for breakfast I'm inclined to think annie might just might go wh!!
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Will go mares cause wont be beating Thistlecrack in World Hurdle.
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Nice one, will pm you nearer the time.
STS; am thinking of having a little dabble on her now and on VVM for the mares....one of these days my hunch may pay off |
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SEATHESTARS....NO1
11 Feb 16 21:52 Rich ricci did say in several interviews that she has two options, saying that at the moment it's the mares, but if they can get a run into her before hand then the world hdl This is my point. Is she 100%? Yes (so they say). Does she have an entry? Yes. So why not run if you have an entry and a horse that's ready for it? |
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Can't Catch Me
11 Feb 16 21:43 I suppose the only possible reason could be that they think she's become quite frail and doesn't take her racing that well? I know her earlier career suggests otherwise, but can't think of anything else that adds up! Quite probably the case. So why even make the entry? |
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In case they thought she was further away than they hoped...and that might be the only way to get bring her on maybe?
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Trainers of racehorses are a funny breed of human being though really, i mean, they make entries using owner's money (I know RR don't need it anyways but that's besides the point) and like MoT may or may not run
 I mean what the **** is all that about? To even make an entry for a race smells a we bit to me, why do it if absolutely no intention to run! A reason always surfaces eventually, just hope in the case of those that have backed MoT it's not that he's had a setback. I've backed him but for any race. |
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Any price for AP not making Cheltenham?
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I think they'll run her in the Mares, the reason being I think that they may feel that she didn't quite stay he trip well enough to beat MOT and this time around they have on the face of it an equally formidable opponent to beat that would expose any stamina weakness.
If they never let her take her chance in the WH last year where it looked a good bit weaker than this year why would they do it now where for many the banker of the week lies in wait? |
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Agreed. Plus they are desperate to get her into the winners enclosure in some form as RR said earlier in the year.
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I would take 100% to mean 100% healthy but doesnt necessarily mean 100% fit to race and/or do herself full justice. It looks like the mares to me.
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I would take 100% to mean 100% healthy but doesnt necessarily mean 100% fit
Exactly right. It's an Irish thing. AP will go MH and VVM to the Ryanair. Of course no stated definitive plans till a week before just in case a certain horse meets with a setback in the WH. Let's hope not. |
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I see Vroum Vroum Mag holds an entry in the Ascot Chase next week.
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Mullins has now said "Things are looking positive for her running on Wednesday" - Mares Hurdle backers holding their breath.
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Just had a bet at 2.1 matched after laying her from all rates from 1.81 to 1.95
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Now 5/4 on the exchange and being matched to decent sums too, defo worrying if your a backer
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I would love to see it - buy the chances of Willie sending Annie in against Thistlecrack are surely slim. Even with a prep run - if it happens - she will get to retake the penalty she missed last year.
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10p 20p 50p £ was laid buy the big pro STS this won't run he knows ye know
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They said if she has a prep she will go WH,no prep the Mares.
So,runs Wednesday you have your answer. We all will find out how genuine they are.....if any did not know!! |
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Yeah I'm thinking they will go back on there word even if she runs this week I still think they will go mares as they want a Cheltenham win with her and thistlecrack looks even tougher to beat now since they have said about the prep run! But you just never know with them as last week the son said she will go right to the festival and on that same day she gets an entry for this week!! So hard to believe what there coming out with right now. So I think it won't matter what happens this week she will still go mares but we shall see as my guess is as good as anyone else's lol
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It is nonsense for them to even say they need a run into her.
If it runs on Wednesday and hacks round at 1/8 and never comes off the bridle, how is that any different to giving her a racecourse gallop behind closed doors against better quality stablemates. |
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Willie wants the grand slam.
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that was RR talking, mullins makes the decisions
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That is not banter, this is getting a bit tedious, you got nothing better to do i.e work? FFS DiC-ALEC right enough!
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If Annie Power couldn't beat MoT, then I really cannot see her beating Thistlecrack.
I see Thistlecrack as a stronger stayer than MoT (Annie's weakness), and he has had a perfect World Hurdle prep, improving with every run. When Annie was beaten by MoT, she'd had three runs, against a quality opponent in Zarkandar, and an uninterupted campaign. This year, she'd be up against a tougher opponent (imo of course), with only one run in an egg and spoon race 3.5 weeks before. Imo they should go Annie in the Mares and VVM in the World Hurdle. VVM's last two runs have been over hurdles, so it'd be bizarre to switch to fences at the end, and Annie and Voler La Vedette have shown Mares (with the allowance) can go mightly close in the World Hurdle. |
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I think connections have all but ruled out the WH for VVM given the "Ryanair still possible" comment and also the comments after Ascot where they implied that she is just not good enough at that level over hurdles.
Could definitely see VVM competitive in what looks like a poor Ryanair (ex. RTR). She jumps and travels beautifully in her races and has stamina to boot. A strange campaign if they were to chose this option but nothing a decent schooling session around those Leopardstown fences wouldn't fix. Would be great to see AP up against Thistlecrack but she'd have to be back to her very best. Still think connections chicken though, even with a prep, as the latter is a beast. imo. |
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'almost definitely' runs on Wed according to wpm. You have to wonder if they're considering WH.
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of course they should be considering the World Hurdle and I like Thistlecrack a lot. She tanked all the way in the WH last time and outstayed everything except MOT. Increasingly the WH looks like there is this one hot pot to beat and you should never be afraid of one horse especially given there is a fair chance of beating it with a very special mare like Annie.
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I agree with that eeternal, plus on better ground anything can happen. If eveyone ran away from a short priced fav the festival would be a lesser occasion. We will see what happens
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Yeah exactly wellchief that's what I was thinking and they must be aswell not winning it against mot with a good season behind her and thistlecrack looking like a solid fav they must be thinking they would be up against it in the race! Usually willy runs them in the races they have the best chance in winning plus the mares is obviously now a grade 1 so don't see him changing his ways now but roll on 4 weeks to the action starts... But willy do the right thing and get her win in the bag and go the mares.... And don't bust about 6 of my bets going for the world lol
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Im preying she runs in WHurdle as this may lead to thistlecrack going of bigger than 2-1, which i will get as much as i possible can on.
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They've seen that she is vulnerable stamina wise against a top 3 miler, they are now considering running her against another top 3 miler...eermm.
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