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onehundredandeighty
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Start a new one for this year folks......away ya go......Grin
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Report miltons sophie February 1, 2016 7:43 PM GMT
rease  - re Rezorbi was shouting watch this in the novice chase watch this in the novice chase and swore my head off when he fell  - thought i had found one - looked a nasty fall Sad
Report gnashersblackpool February 2, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
fixe le kap fred winter.  i know its 2nd fav for truimph, but its only been raised to 139 for beating 123 rated mystery code 35 lenghts at warwick last week. risky
Report oneman February 2, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
where did you find fix le kap 139 rating? bha website says 133
Report rogerthebutler February 4, 2016 10:04 PM GMT
Have a look at Germany Calling's record when fresh and on good ground - and then bear in mind he's been rested since mid-November.

Connections see him as a 3m chaser so could be unexposed for the 3m Handicap Chase on the Tuesday, with only Longsdon's so-so record at Cheltenham a negative.
Report Jb23 February 5, 2016 9:51 AM GMT

Feb 2, 2016 -- 3:01PM, oneman wrote:


where did you find fix le kap 139 rating? bha website says 133


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?horse_id=882828#topHorseTabs=horse_race_record&bottomHorseTabs=horse_form

Report dtamutants2 February 5, 2016 3:57 PM GMT
Clarcam could be one for the Grand Annual. 33s at the moment
Report corporal February 5, 2016 9:24 PM GMT
Johns Spirit now down to 145. 25's now gone with bet everydayoftheweek. Got to have a good chance assuming they go for the 2.5M handicap
Report corporal February 5, 2016 9:25 PM GMT
Should read bet everydayoftheyear. Trying to be too clever for my own good
Report miltons sophie February 9, 2016 8:20 PM GMT
wpm has entered townshend for a 2m 4 handicap hurdle at plumpton of all places on monday according to rp not sure what his OR is??- from memory i seem to remember all the bonus races are chases this year but worth a check i guess
Report Can't Catch Me February 9, 2016 8:22 PM GMT
Entered at Gowran as well isn't he? Was only looking at him earlier today. Impossible to guess what handicap they will aim him at though isn't it. Martin Pipe or Coral Cup maybe?
Report Joist February 9, 2016 8:23 PM GMT
He doesn't have one yet as far as I'm aware and this is the second time WPM has entered Townshend in a handicap over here so he seems very keen to  know what the handicapper would make of him - clearly eyeing up a Festival handicap imo.
Report slowerthanjohn February 9, 2016 8:32 PM GMT
Townshend needs to run over hurdles again to qualify for a handicap at Cheltenham. Very interesting imo.
Report miltons sophie February 9, 2016 8:39 PM GMT
plumpers one of the best tracks around to test if a horse will act round cheltenham
Report Can't Catch Me February 9, 2016 8:42 PM GMT
Definitely did have an entry at Gowran for Sat joist, so maybe they've decided Plumpton works better. I will be backing him wherever he goes at the festival. Just wish we could get a price before he runs!
Report slowerthanjohn February 10, 2016 12:06 PM GMT
Townshend given a mark of 131 in Ireland.
Report slowerthanjohn February 10, 2016 12:11 PM GMT
Also for anyone interested or anyone that can get on with sky betCrazyWhoops they are offering 16s for Townshend to win any festival. GL getting anything onWink
Report slowerthanjohn February 10, 2016 1:25 PM GMT
Townshend 130 in Britain, a Irish hurdler lower in Britain than Ireland a rarity.
Report miltons sophie February 10, 2016 3:05 PM GMT
someone needs to invent an alert like horse tracker that sends an email as soon as a horse is priced up in a market Laugh
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
Haha, great idea ms.
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
not high enough to get m pipe or corl and unlikely for county  - few more pounds could get him in county, needs at least 5 i'd say for mp and possibly more for crl cup - so needs to run and at least place for county and win well for crl - for those interested he is now on here for county - me thinks mr s didnt want him lurking off bottom weight in county (a 133 might just have been enough) and is forcing to run again so he can reassess him if necessary.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
MS Townshend has to run 3 times over hurdles to qualify to run in any of the Cheltenham handicaps, so only having had two runs WPM has no choice but to run again.
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 1:18 PM GMT
not my point slower
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
should have made myself clearer hancippper has made it so he has to win
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
had i known you were listening slower i would have been forensically precise
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:25 PM GMT
May not be but it's still a factWink the last few years you need to be 135ish for the County, 138 CC, 133 MP the year Don Poli won. But the fact is without a 3rd run over hurdles regardless of his current mark he will not qualify to run in any handicap hurdle at Cheltenham, that's my point ms.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
So let me be clearer for you ms, say Mr Smith had said WPM Townshend is rated 139. We agree this mark would have enabled him to run in any race? But the thing stopping him from actually being allowed to compete is he has only ran twice over hurdles, to run in any Cheltenham handicap hurdle you have to have ran 3 times over hurdles regardless of you mark.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
Hope that's cleared up any confusion.
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
yes i know omg that is not my point - my point is that he has ensured that he has another opportunity to reassess him - rather than him being able to run mid field in his 3rd run - and last year the mp was 135 and county 134 2014 county was 133 and 2013 was 132 -  i am trying to be really patient with you but you are coming across like a stalker
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:38 PM GMT
A stalkerLaughLaughLaugh I'm fed up of having to correct you msWink
Report Desmond Orchard February 11, 2016 1:40 PM GMT
Boys boys, you're both making the same point.
I'm not sure about the County for this lad, as I think further might be better. But if he does pitch up in a cap off less than 140, he may well be the gamble of the week.
Report maelduin February 11, 2016 1:46 PM GMT
MS Townshend has to run 3 times over hurdles to qualify to run in any of the Cheltenham handicaps, so only having had two runs WPM has no choice but to run again.

Aux Ptits Soins won the Coral Cup last year with only 2 runs over hurdles. Horses don't need 3 runs to get a mark, they can run 2 times and if they are placed in both or win one they qualify. Townshend got his mark based off of that. GL
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:46 PM GMT
Desmond all I am trying to say regardless of what mark Townshend has been given he needs to have ran three times over hurdles to run because it's above a certain class race. So in effect Mr Smith knows he has to run again, that's allLaugh
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:49 PM GMT
Stand corrected apologies, by the way I hate you maelduinLaugh
Report maelduin February 11, 2016 1:53 PM GMT
No biggie as it is an easy mistake to make. The rules constantly refer to the 3 times run but there are always exceptions.

Now please stop stalking MS. Laugh
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:58 PM GMT
maelduin as you proved me wrong and you seem to know your stuffWink Townshend was entered in a handicap the other Saturday at Cheltenham that was won by Solstice Star but Phil Smith wouldn't give him a mark?
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 1:59 PM GMT
I will do maelduin, I made the mistake of thinking it was a public forumCrazy but I'm fine with standing corrected.
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 2:00 PM GMT
your corrections are pedantic and trivial imo and a poorly disquised legacy of your dislike for my posts when you first emerged (or first time i remember you emerging) when others were getting fed up with you (or are you going to say thats not a fact either as i can happily point you to their comments) -  now with regards to facts - if you want to correct me i suggest you do it factually  i said 133 could get him in the county the average of the last 3 countys is 133 fact not 135 ish.

I have met many people that prefer to critique others rather than put up their own original thought to be critiqued its certainly a lot safer space to play in as i believe it is a lot easier to destroy than it is to create - there are many on here that have my admiration because they regularly put there neck on the block. i have also met many people that avoid the tougher questions they are asked or the ones that would require them to admiit perhaps they were wrong and respond with a deflection. I dont claim to be the most knowledgeable poster, and i am sure many out there dont rate my posts but i enjoy interesting debate.
Report maelduin February 11, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
I know some stuff but still post the odd howler like everyone. Blush

I didn't see the entry so not sure. Was he still declared when they released the weights? If yes then that would be odd. Maybe he was still being assessed. Confused
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
mael - if you are interested (which i doubt very much) - take a look at his posts and see how often they are a response to the sh*t i post
Report Desmond Orchard February 11, 2016 2:10 PM GMT
Speaking as the unofficial referee.
Milton, John's views are often delivered in a slightly more robust fashion than many would like, but on the whole, he's not a bad sort. He seems to have valuable insight on most of the threads he comments on and I think we all appreciate the need for a little more traffic through here.
And as shown above, he can readily admit when he is wrong, so that charge can't be levelled against him.
John, stop being pedantic, it was a minor point, you knew what you were doing - consider wrist slapped.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 2:10 PM GMT
Get over yourself ms, I'll try not to post on any thread your on, as for the others being fed up with me, boo hoo. I've been proved to be wrong on this thread and gladly hold my hands up, not a problem with maelduin picking on meLaugh

Pedantic and trivial??? Like running a gelding in a mares only race or RW falling off Boston Bob in the sun alliance??? It seems you are ulterior sensitive ms, so don't worry my stalking of youCrazyLaughis finished no need for a restraining order.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 2:11 PM GMT
So DesmondBlush
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
Sorry Desmond I meanLaughwrong again
Report maelduin February 11, 2016 2:14 PM GMT
MS - I never advocate using the "block user" feature but in this case it might be better for both of you. With so many different personalities you'll always have some friction. Plus we all have enough stresses in life without letting it get into our pastime as well.

Speaking of friction you'll know that i spent my morning yesterday trying to make the forum a better place and all i got was a kick in the nuts. A poster even had the audacity to say the spoofer was brave. Laugh
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 2:19 PM GMT
DO - yes i am sure everything you say is correct - i guess my imagination must be running riot with me - so slower i apologise to you.
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 2:22 PM GMT
mael - no need - the pattern will either stop now or everybody else will see it because its out there now - either way i am ok with that
Report Desmond Orchard February 11, 2016 2:26 PM GMT
DO - yes i am sure everything you say is correct

Nobody ever accused me of that before, Milton! I just prefer it when everyone plays nice.
Report slowerthanjohn February 11, 2016 2:29 PM GMT
No problem ms, I correct anyone if they are wrong and stand corrected when I am wrong which that horrible person maelduin did pesky maelduin.

I can honestly say ms I have nothing whatsoever against you and I apologise for making you feel that way. I like ante post and Cheltenham threads on here as there is some great debate but just because I disagree with you or anyone else or correct anyone or anyone corrects me, its not victimisation. If we all agreed it would be boring, a few people have made a few snarky remarks about me but hey you give it you have to take it.

So all in all ms I'm not stalking youLaugh and lets just get over me being wrong and lets not mention that fact againLaugh
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 2:32 PM GMT
DO - trust me i am trying
Report duffy February 11, 2016 4:25 PM GMT
came back from being out all day saw 59 new posts on the handicap plots thought something dramatic had happened and glad to see that no-one had cut and pasted a half a dozen of the other threads Wink ms
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 7:08 PM GMT
Duffy Laugh - i thought i'd give the forum a go, can see why some like it - some great knowledge on here and much respect for many - but its not for me - will stick to reading from now on - gl against the enemy Laugh
Report duffy February 11, 2016 7:18 PM GMT
What you on about?
Report duffy February 11, 2016 7:23 PM GMT
I've been waiting for 13 years to see a Sir Humphrey tribute act begin posting and now you've arrived you're fooking off 5 minutes laterCry
Report duffy February 11, 2016 7:26 PM GMT
^
I meant that as a compliment by the wayHappy
Report miltons sophie February 11, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
duffy - you know i am going to have to ask - and understand you realise i am completely losing face by posting after my last post - but my curiosity is even stonger than my desire not to lose face - sir humphrey - help the thicko out please?
Report duffy February 11, 2016 7:55 PM GMT
I won't go into the full analysis, let's suffice to say he's a bloody smart cookie...not a thicko as you well know.
Report onehundredandeighty February 11, 2016 9:04 PM GMT
Ok back to plots now please,enough gladiating with cotton buds Silly
Report spothediference February 11, 2016 10:03 PM GMT
anyway back on topic lol. anychance wait for me will go for county hurdle he looks on fair mark imo. thoughts?
Report stevo1 February 11, 2016 11:55 PM GMT
If he does will need to jump better than he has so far, fickin awful.
Report duffy February 11, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
I'd fancy him more for the Supreme than a county...and I think he's got no chance in the Supreme.
Report deakers February 12, 2016 2:05 AM GMT
Any chance Doctor Harper runs against L'Ami Serge tomorrow in the hopes of getting dropped a pound?!!
Report maelduin February 12, 2016 10:56 AM GMT
Doctor Harper would need to have 2 years off then a couple of P's beside his name before they drop him a pound unfortunately. Was really looking forward to him in the Novice Handicap. Sad
Report slowerthanjohn February 12, 2016 11:06 AM GMT
maelduin obviously you corrected me about Aux Ptit Soins but another question regarding this subject please? My reasoning for my mistake was the case of MTOY when he won the Betfair Hurdle I clearly remember they had to rush another run into him at Huntingdon to be able to run in the Betfair. Am I right in thinking if it's your novice season you have to had 3 runs over hurdles to qualify for a certain class handicap? Aux Ptit Soins wasn't a novice was he? Could be wrong againLaugh
Report maelduin February 12, 2016 11:08 AM GMT
i thought i'd give the forum a go, can see why some like it - some great knowledge on here and much respect for many - but its not for me - will stick to reading from now on

Odds on you will be back posting by the weekend. In fact i bet you've already had the urge to post this morning. Don't fight it MS, you're addicted. Grin
Report maelduin February 12, 2016 11:26 AM GMT
Am I right in thinking if it's your novice season you have to had 3 runs over hurdles to qualify for a certain class handicap?

Yes if you'll be a novice going into the race like MTOY.

10/10 STJ Grin
Report slowerthanjohn February 12, 2016 11:35 AM GMT
Fankoo maelduinBlush

So Townshend is a novice who has ran only twice over hurdles? So therefore he does actually have to run again to qualify to run in a Cheltenham handicap?
Report maelduin February 12, 2016 11:43 AM GMT
So Townshend is a novice who has ran only twice over hurdles? So therefore he does actually have to run again to qualify to run in a Cheltenham handicap?

Of course. Laugh
Report slowerthanjohn February 12, 2016 11:50 AM GMT
So I was half rightExcited and half wrongWhoops I'll take that happily
Report maelduin February 12, 2016 11:55 AM GMT
Well if you're happy then i'm even happier. Excited
Report deakers February 12, 2016 5:43 PM GMT
"Doctor Harper would need to have 2 years off then a couple of P's beside his name before they drop him a pound unfortunately"
GrinHaHa! I think you're probably right there.
Report ReaseHeath February 14, 2016 10:17 AM GMT
Don't know what the plan is but Montbazon had a nice reintroduction after a long lay off in the Betfair Hurdle yesterday, mad keen early, dropped out at the back, ran on towards the end of race, not knocked about.
Report Swardean February 14, 2016 10:52 AM GMT
Interesting to see what rating Starchitect gets after tomorrow.   Thought he was really well handicapped and ran a great race.   Should be even better on better ground and will be a live contender for the County imo.
Report moat February 14, 2016 12:29 PM GMT
Ive been chipping away at Rennetti for Coral Cup this horse has some nice peices of form and to me looks like step up in distance would be interesting and worth a punt
Report maelduin February 14, 2016 12:57 PM GMT
^^ Really like him too moat. He's a bit quirky but he looks like he has a big engine. Always staying on nicely in his races so CC looks ideal and we know he acts around Cheltenham. GL
Report nocturnal February 14, 2016 3:38 PM GMT
Rease....Thats a good shout Montbazon,touched off in supreme, then county 2 yrs later off 140,hoping he gets dropped a couple after yesterday,138 would get him in the county normally.
Very few miles on the clock for 9 yr old,interesting both times he went close at the festival,he prepped at the newbury meeting,would want some good in the going,obviously had his problems,canny trainer,interesting.
Report Shrewd_dude February 15, 2016 8:11 AM GMT
Will be backing montbazon as well. Backed him on Sat and was watching him hoping he may sneak a place and was given a quite ride towards the end of the race.
Report rogerthebutler February 15, 2016 10:23 AM GMT
Re Montbazon

Pretty much a rewrite of the career of Manyriverstocross, also a King inmate who went close in the Coral Cup a few years back after a long lay off and 'interesting' prep in the Betfair Hurdle
Report HaylingBilly February 15, 2016 10:29 AM GMT
rog - County Hurdle wasn't it. I was on at 33/1 and screaming him home. Came 3rd after 3 years off the track. Got a good run for my money and a decent financial return.
Report rogerthebutler February 15, 2016 10:44 AM GMT
Could be - the perils of not checking the form book before posting but it was one of the two .
Report baNjackst February 15, 2016 7:38 PM GMT
I would be of the opinion that modus has to be the best handicapped 2 mile hurdler and will have his day in the sun on good ground. Ignore the run in the mud. County Hurdle or Galway Hurdle
Report Joist February 15, 2016 8:47 PM GMT
Absolutely agree on Modus, if he goes for it then is a knocking bet for the County Hurdle.
Report Denman The Destroyer February 16, 2016 7:05 PM GMT
Townshend entered at Fairyhouse on Saturday.
Report stevo1 February 16, 2016 7:37 PM GMT
John Constable on decent ground in County 33\1
Report simdog84 February 16, 2016 10:14 PM GMT
where do we think townshend will go at the fez if runs again to qualify?  the martin pipe would be my pick if gets a rating 135-140.
Report maelduin February 17, 2016 11:46 AM GMT
^^ If his recent race entries are an indicator then it looks like the MP. Let's hope he runs/wins by a hard fought 1/2l on Saturday and gets 135. GL
Report roobuck February 23, 2016 12:25 PM GMT
Unique de Cotte - conveniently hampered by a faller. Maybe novice handicap 1st day?
Report bigben February 23, 2016 8:20 PM GMT
I think he'll need a third run to qualify.
Report roobuck February 23, 2016 8:34 PM GMT
Fair point, lazy not sesing 1st run was a hurdle
Report cufcno1 February 23, 2016 11:26 PM GMT
Didn't know that either thanks bigben,was one I was looking at,can remember him coming from off the pace to win when the money was down at Cheltenham last season at the November meeting,lunique definitely interests me
Report maelduin February 25, 2016 4:28 PM GMT
Renneti not entered in a handicap. Must be injured. Sad
Report the bloob February 26, 2016 9:54 PM GMT
here's one for you, Romain de Senam in the Fred Winter, currently 25/1 biggest price
Report simdog84 February 27, 2016 8:39 AM GMT
Out Sam looks very attractive on 139 3 miler on the Tuesday..... Thomas Brown a max bet today to endorse that aswell
Report roobuck February 27, 2016 10:12 AM GMT
Not necessarily plot horses as such but think a good few PFN horses by circumstance will be well treated.
Report Swardean February 27, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
I think ALL YOURS is very well handicapped for PFN.  This is a grade 1 winning hurdler and you can ignore all its form on soft ground.   He is rated 147.   It is a joke that Connetable is rated 150 as AY would beat him 99/100 over 2 miles on good ground.

Target is County but could miss festival altogether in favour of Scottish Champion Hurdle. 20/1 NRNB
Report dunlaying March 2, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
Generous Ransom perhaps. Could run Saturday and is engaged twice at Cheltenham. Pure guesswork on my part nothing more than that.
Report Swardean March 2, 2016 10:44 PM GMT
A very positive mention by PN for All Yours at the Betfair preview evening.
Report dunlaying March 3, 2016 11:47 AM GMT
This Generous Ransom looks like running on Saturday and needs to win there to get in at Prestbury Park. On his best behaviour that would pose no problem.



Touch wood!
Report ReaseHeath March 17, 2016 8:59 PM GMT
Not been through the whole thread again but decent call from the bloob on Romain De Senam.

One or two shouts for the County tomorrow but my own pick Montbazon has sneaked in at the bottom off 2lbs lower than when 3rd in this 2 years ago, evidence of Betfair Hurdle is that he's retained all his ability, this race seems to get stronger each year and there will be plenty more fashionable, progressive types but I expect a big run from Montbazon.
Report Graeme83 March 17, 2016 9:39 PM GMT
I like velvet maker for the grand anual. I expect more battle hardened sorts to be more backed by punters, but if he was more experienced he wouldn't be 12/1.
Report ReaseHeath March 18, 2016 2:46 PM GMT

Mar 17, 2016 -- 3:59PM, ReaseHeath wrote:


Not been through the whole thread again but decent call from the bloob on Romain De Senam.One or two shouts for the County tomorrow but my own pick Montbazon has sneaked in at the bottom off 2lbs lower than when 3rd in this 2 years ago, evidence of Betfair Hurdle is that he's retained all his ability, this race seems to get stronger each year and there will be plenty more fashionable, progressive types but I expect a big run from Montbazon.


that went well...Cry

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