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I seen that 90.0 but I decided not to play, hes already exposed and brain power isn't a buveur dair/altior or even a oo seven imo. EXpect you will get a run for your money though.
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Buveur Dair bit more steady in market now, hopefully goes Supreme Henderson due change of luck in this race. Backed any race and w/out Min market.
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Had a little interest on Charbel. Looks an improver,and at the prices thought worth a go.
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I'm under the impression NJH had been reported to say Buveur D'air was heading for the Supreme a couple of days ago - is that not correct?
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Yep read it last week Supreme was target,think it was on Racing Uk blog?
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defo goes supreme, think Henderson wants to get another run into him before though.... looks a cracking alternative to Min at the prices, hes the better of the NH pair for me
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if he learns to switch off and relax which fingers crossed he will, hes going to be a very good horse. been a tad keen in his runs to date.
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Declared for Sunday listed race.
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MIN is drifting here....
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Pull the whip thru straighten him up
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Drifting? To accommodate RR's friends in the City perhaps; Min needs to win the Supreme convincingly if it's to challenge Faugheen in the champion Hurdle in 2017
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Y wud he go CH next year
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I'm pretty sure that Yorkhill is Neptune bound. I think they rate him highly - just not as highly as Min. I think as a result that Bellshill will end up here. I've backed him in the without market but am also considering a saver in the main market at 20-1 as I can't see him going off anywhere near that price on the day.
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anyone else like tombstone ?
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I do, don't think he'll beat Min mind you but I can see him chasing him home, I was impressed with the way he ran against long dog 2 runs back where he didn't settle, got messed around before the home turn but still finished quite strongly, not too sure about last time tbh but think better ground and an end to end gallop will suit him.
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If the odds here are any guide it's looking increasingly likely Yorkhill is heading the Neptune way. Does that mean Bellshill is heading this way or possibly the Albert Bartlett? I've always thought 16f is more suited for Yorkhill and not 20f the way he travelled against 00seven.
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While my pocket would prefer Yorkhill to win the Supreme it should be noted that Monsignor and French Holly both won the Tolworth and then stepped up to the Neptune and won it easily.
With Yanworth making the market I'll be having a double maximum on Yorkhill e/w if he does go for the Neptune. |
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Winter Escape could be a late comer to the Supreme party tomorrow. Alan King and JP McManus, so could be a nice little double with Yanworth. Huge step up in grade tomorrow, but BJG likes him.
A good run from Marracdja won't do Altior's form any harm. |
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Can't believe general principle is 11/10 to win the 2.10 at navan tomorrow. The bet of the season for me.
Still holds entries for cheltenham and fully expect him to win on the bridle here. |
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Re:Winter Escape
Did the trainer not say it was most likely be kept back for Aintree? |
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Ah right, didn't see that. You never know, a big run may force their hand.
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Have backed Yorkhill @ 8/1 nrnb with b365.
scooby91 26 Feb 16 19:34 Can't believe general principle is 11/10 to win the 2.10 at navan tomorrow. The bet of the season for me. Still holds entries for cheltenham and fully expect him to win on the bridle here. General Principle was my biggest bet at last years festival but bombed out very disappointingly in the bumper - be interesting to see how he goes today. |
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Hope you had your whole bank on Scoobs.
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I must admit I took a risk dipping more into my cheltenham bank than I usually would.
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Had a small punt at 46 on here for Winter Escape on the back of the Dovecot, although I do realise he is probably less likely to run in the Supreme and wait for Aintree.
Would have learnt a hell of a lot from today, and is very unexposed. Alan King doesn't have a runner in the race, and JP only has Modus who's gone backwards in his last two runs, so I'm hoping those two combined things might let him take his chance. Has a lot to find with Altior on the back of that run, but that was only his third run, and Marracudja would improve for the better ground he had today. Only small stakes, but he'd be an interesting runner if they let him take his chance. |
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Altior's form looks very solid indeed, unless Min is some sort of superstar I think Altior is the most likely winner. I backed a couple of weeks ago at 6/1 and I'm tempted to go in again at 9/2
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Min is a superstar don't worry about that! The form of the horse keeps getting boosts where ever you look. If you put a line through gurteen I know they think the world of that and gurteen beat de plotting shed who is very well thought of by Elliott and my friend who owns. Also in the same ownership is ball darc who won the grade 2 the last day. I think altior has grown as the season has gone on. The way it beat Maputo in November to its win over Xmas shows the way it's grown up and developed. I for one think this could turn out to be quite a strong supreme novices this year with min altior buveur dair supasundae tombstone. You can't discount Charbel and winter escape from the places if they turn up.
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Yorkhills Tolworth form is also being franked left right and centre - will be a humdinger of an opening race if he is allowed to take his chance.
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I agree with a couple of the last posts. This is wide open and the level of form being brought to the table by umpteen of the contenders makes it fascinating. If Min wins like some on here think it will it will be a potential superstar. There are plenty bringing good form including unheralded types like Chabrel who on good ground has a definite chance.
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Winter Escape misses Cheltenham and goes to Aintree - Alan king
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Buveur D'air is getting progressively weaker I wonder why?
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Altior looks a Cheltenham type, well more than that he has already won a battle up the hill there.
Was then very impressive at Kempton slamming them. Love horses who 'hit a flat spot' then hack up. A minefield of a race at the best of times but I am very keen on this one. |
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he's the one that you could hang your hat on. He'll run his race and he finds for pressure. Be very hard to kick out of the 3
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I never like backing horses at the festival who have not been asked a few questions. The track is suited to types that have the guts for the final climb. Sure you get the odd Black Aeroplane, but they are rare.
I think Min will be 5/2+ on the day, and expect Altior to be a very solid 4/1 or shorter. |
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id agree BORNTOWIN hence why i would not back Min at 6-4. As like you i generally much prefer battle hardened horses like altior who have done it, have been to big festivals and you no are going to find of the bridle, has track form and would seem a banker ew bet.
However Mins wins visually have been outstanding and when you add the meat to the bones that its turned out he annihilated some pretty damn good horses, he won the same two races as previous winners and although he's pulled hard he's not finished like a tired horse at all and is actually sprinting clear at the finish. You've got me thinking this boyo could be very very special. If yorkhill doesnt run it doesnt look a race full of dangers, and with his jumping he could be a future CH hurdle horse (would say winner but small issue of faugheen) Altior looks made for further. So if i have called it right then its all about how confident am i that I'm right to what price i would be happy backing my confidence. On pure ability I'm very confident, unfortunately its a fact he does pull and he's never been to a big festival so could boil over, also not sure if theres anything to take him as no final decs yet, and a hard puller at chelt with that hill is always a worry so i would want at least 5-2 to put those fears to bed. Just can see him doing an exact repeat of Vautour and Faugheen. |
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Indeed Altior is destined for a trip as many, (most even) winners of this race are.
I have a strong opinion he will be there or thereabouts. Of course Min could be a machine, if he is I will enjoy the parade. With Altior not damaging the balance watching his tail! |
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only worry i have is that altior will try and win can see him going after min, and burning himself leaving himself vulnerable for the place. Lots of IFS and Buts. Not long till there all answered!!
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Altior is very weak,...no one wants to back it not even at 6.8!
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Not to worry, the yard can get big race winners at 1000......
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It's was not the winning I was concerned with, it was the taking part!
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