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bonnie
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any opinions ?

i've just chucked a bit at Zarkandar, apparently an improved animal this season, STD needs to hold onto him for much longer than he did at Ascot tho.
Opposition doesn't appear great
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Report superkreem February 16, 2015 5:41 AM GMT
If More of that is a non runner the Annie Power will run in this race.
Report StaroftheClass February 16, 2015 9:12 AM GMT
Annie Power will run in the Mares. She will never run in the W.H without a prep run. Mullins always takes the easy races when available to win and this will be no different.

Hopefully she goes novice chasing next year and fulfills her enormous potential.
Report CVByrne February 16, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
Annie Power did you say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvz41C2aME&feature=youtu.be

Grin Those Downfall videos never fail to make me laugh.
Report shockster February 16, 2015 8:34 PM GMT
Cheers CV, hadn't seen that one.  CLASS.Laugh
Report CVByrne February 16, 2015 8:36 PM GMT
Big Bucks comment actually had me in tears. Grin
Report Wicketd February 16, 2015 8:44 PM GMT
"mein fuhrer, she still beat big buck's"

"because he had to stop for his f**king pension half way round"

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Wicketd February 16, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
"at least she was beaten by a mcmanus horse, i backed her with boyles...money back if 2nd to mccoy...there's no way he would have chosen that s**thouse at fishers cross"

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Wicketd February 16, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
just watched last year's race again and geraghty once again with a masterclass

he was absolutely cantering turning in but as soon as he saw annie on his outside he kicked the horse into overdrive to ensure she didnt get first run

race winning decision imo
Report tony2914 February 16, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
thought briar hill would have won if stood up yesterday, at least it ran with a lot more promise, think 25s nrnb is well worth a few quid in what is for me the weakest world hurdle I can remember.
Report CVByrne February 16, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
Yeah I felt Briar Hill would have got up or gone close, he's one who will just do enough to win. He shaped with much more promise. But another fall will surely have wrecked his confidence. It took him ages to get over his last one.
Report Tory February 16, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
Any chance Briar Hill goes Coral Cup? Think 2.5m is his trip.

Appreciate winning off 152 or a bit higher (doesn't UK handicapper normally add a few lbs on?) will be tough, but think he could be a fair bit better than that.
Report FOYLESWAR February 16, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
just had some small change on more of that  at 13 on here probably a nonner but  conneections havent completly ruled him out and things can change and wont be that big if they can get him there !
Report Ming_the_Merciless February 17, 2015 8:52 AM GMT
THAT WAS QUALITY CV!
Report wellchief February 17, 2015 6:15 PM GMT
Interesting Racing Post podcast if anyone is interested.

https://soundcloud.com/racingpost/cheltenham-postcast-world-hurdle-16-02-15

Monksland gets a very good write up, and Pricewise gives a very favourable mention to Seeyouatmidnight.

Zarkandar split them a bit.
Report shockster February 19, 2015 11:30 AM GMT
More Of That is "very much odds against" running in the Ladbrokes World Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival on March 12, according to regular jockey Tony McCoy.
Jonjo O'Neill's seven-year-old defeated top Irish mare Annie Power in the race last season, when ridden by Barry Geraghty, but was comprehensively beaten upon his return to action at Newbury in November and has not run since.
The JP McManus-owned More Of That also bled after exercise last week to leave connections chasing the clock in order to prove his fitness for the Festival.
McCoy blogged on www.thejockeyclub.co.uk: "Sadly, More Of That bled in his work last week, which is hugely disappointing.
"Whether he gets back in the given time is very much odds against at the moment."
The 19-times champion jockey snubbed More Of That in preference for At Fishers Cross in last season's World Hurdle, but he could only finish third.
Rebecca Curtis' stayer has struggled this term, with McCoy distinctly nonplussed by his no-show at Haydock last Saturday.
He said: "At Fishers Cross ran deplorably bad at Haydock over the weekend - that is the only way of describing it - and he is long way off being a World Hurdle contender at the moment."
Paul Nicholls is happy with Zarkandar, who finished fourth last year, and Saphir Du Rheu in what he believes is an open year.
"Zarkandar is in really good form," the Ditcheat handler told At The Races.
"He won the French Champion Hurdle then ran really well at Ascot.
"Saphir won the Cleeve, which is always a good trial, and is an improving horse. It's a very open race.
"We've trained Zarkandar particularly just for this race. We haven't run him all year to keep him fresh and he's in good form.
"I think both horses have got big chances."
Report shockster February 20, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
MORE OF THAT may yet defend his Ladbrokes World Hurdle crown next month, with positive test results giving connections sufficient encouragement to leave making a final decision until as late as possible.

The seven-year-old's participation at the Cheltenham Festival was thrown into serious doubt earlier this month as it emerged he had burst a blood vessel following a piece of work.

The timing of the setback left trainer Jonjo O'Neill suggesting the World Hurdle would come too soon, but Frank Berry, racing manager to owner JP McManus issued a more upbeat bulletin on Friday.
He said:"More Of That's test results came back good today and we are all very happy with the horse at home.

"If things continue like they are we think it is only fair to give the horse every chance of getting to Cheltenham to try and follow up his win in last year's World Hurdle.

"So as things stand we will understandably be leaving any final decision on the horse's participation until the last possible moment."

Last season's length and a half defeat of Annie Power in the World Hurdle left More Of That unbeaten in five career starts, but he lost that record when only third to Medinas on his seasonal reappearance in the bet365 Long Distance Hurdle at Newbury in November.

Since Newbury More Of That has undergone a wind operation, and is still challenging for World Hurdle favouritism with Saphir Du Rheu and Zarkandar at a best-priced 6-1.
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 6:00 PM GMT
more of that Love
Report foolsgold123 February 20, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
Hope so :)
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 6:04 PM GMT
how did that old song go?.........what a difference a day makes ,24 little hours
Report shockster February 20, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
Bang right Foyles.  The 2 stories I posted a day apart.  Couldn't make it up. Laugh
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 6:27 PM GMT
has anything ever happened like this before in the green and gold ? youd need binoculars to see it
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
anyone know what the biggest price mot went out to?
Report buddeliea February 20, 2015 6:50 PM GMT
Does anyone still fancy him ??
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 20, 2015 6:57 PM GMT
We dont even know if he actually bled.
Report wellchief February 20, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
If I'm honest, I never fancied him before this shenanigans.
Report buddeliea February 20, 2015 7:02 PM GMT
Thought they said he did..........ah,think I get it!!

Stuff all that,horse been rubbish on the track this season,and not been seen since,i just cannot be backing a horse on that.
If the stables up to something,so be it.
Think I would rather miss a winner to be honest.
Report shockster February 20, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
I'm with you Budd.  Can't have him.  Was at Newbury and the vibes around were bad.  He drifted and never really looked like winning.  Somebody was matched at 80 though for £6 so they'll be hoping.
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
he has had a breevin operation ,will like the probable ground ,current champ ,has had an easy season , lightly raced should have more improvement has beaten current fav  zarkandar in a world hurdle,decent price now and with a trainer who has a decent festival record ................
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 7:12 PM GMT
and I guarantee he will be a different horse to the one that ran so badly at newbury
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 20, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
I cant have him either, tongue tied on his seasonal debut for some unknown reason and then beaten miles by a handicapper.
Report buddeliea February 20, 2015 7:19 PM GMT
Good luck Foyles.
The day I back horses with a season hes had at 5 or 6/1,is the day I take a good look at myself!!
Respect each to their own though.
Report FOYLESWAR February 20, 2015 7:24 PM GMT
yeah I would not back it at 5 or 6 but I had a few sheckles on at 13 the other day which I am happy with
Report harry callaghan February 20, 2015 7:24 PM GMT
Ibrahima Sonko
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We dont even know if he actually bled.




good point this - would love to know the full story and yes it does matter in regards the bleed imo if it wasn't a pulmonary hemorrhage then it is not to bad because if it was just a bleed from the nose this is just normal in most horses, anyway looks like being a runner and connections have given the info to the market which makes the race even harder to fathom but one thing for certain they will get a price about him come the day
Report SEATHESTARS....NO1 February 20, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
MOT went out to and was matched at 80 for £2 but the biggest traded for more was 55. I know this cos i had £2 up at 50 for about an hour and i cancelled it, i realized soon after I cancelled that it would have matched Cry
Report Tory February 20, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
This is my biggest winner of the fest, very closely followed by Faugheen and Annie Power.

Most bets were placed pre season debut and I wouldn't back him now in a month of Sunday's.

I'm glad he looks like possibly running as Id rather have my money running than not, but he's had a horrific prep for a race like this.

He's by far and away the best horse in the race, but not by so much that he can overcome the issues he's had and still beat some fairly good horses.

If Zarkandar or SDR win I'll be a very slightly up and I'd take that now.
Report gazovic February 20, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
Point of order.

AP's 'blog' was likely ghost written 5 days back
Report sintonian February 21, 2015 9:04 AM GMT
I don't think they would run him if they did not feel he was in good enough condition to perform somewhere near to, or even at, his best. Gutted this news came so late as I took him out of my mini TTF lists yesterday!! ****s.
Report sintonian February 21, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
Will be SEETHING if this turns out another Binocular situation.
Report HaylingBilly February 21, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
sint……start seething because that is exactly the scenario. Zero doubt about it.
Report Tory February 21, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
If it's the case then it's not pretty for the sport, though it would be for my wallet
Report Tucho February 21, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
Has More Of That been on holiday to Ireland though?
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 22, 2015 11:53 AM GMT
Mischief
Report shockster February 23, 2015 12:31 PM GMT
GRADE 1-winning novice hurdler Beat That will miss next month's Ladbrokes World Hurdle, which he was as short as 10-1 for.

Trained by Nicky Henderson for Michael Buckley, Beat That scored at the top level at Aintree and Punchestown's spring meetings last year, but will miss the Cheltenham Festival, it was revealed on Monday.

He has had only one start this season when well beaten behind Rock On Ruby at Cheltenham last month and will be put away for a novice chase campaign next term.

Henderson could still be represented in the World Hurdle by 16-1 chance Blue Fashion.
Report shockster February 23, 2015 12:31 PM GMT
GRADE 1-winning novice hurdler Beat That will miss next month's Ladbrokes World Hurdle, which he was as short as 10-1 for.

Trained by Nicky Henderson for Michael Buckley, Beat That scored at the top level at Aintree and Punchestown's spring meetings last year, but will miss the Cheltenham Festival, it was revealed on Monday.

He has had only one start this season when well beaten behind Rock On Ruby at Cheltenham last month and will be put away for a novice chase campaign next term.

Henderson could still be represented in the World Hurdle by 16-1 chance Blue Fashion.
Report stevo1 February 23, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
Whisper mentioned at all,looks doubtful re betting on here.
Report bigben February 24, 2015 12:39 AM GMT
Paul Nicholls said on Twitter tonight that he expects Noel Fehily to ride Zarkander.
Report ACStafford February 24, 2015 8:01 AM GMT
Surely he'll be on Rock on Ruby. I wouldn't even consider jumping off him if I was Fehily. He's been riding him all season and is just a better horse than Zarkandar imo.
Report delsie777 February 24, 2015 8:29 AM GMT
He's signed a retainer with Zarkandar's owners
Report inchcailoch February 24, 2015 8:33 AM GMT
Would McCoy be a possibility so, has JP anything if MOT misses the race
Report jasey February 24, 2015 10:38 AM GMT
Zarks  connections holding out for Ruby Walsh.I heard BH has a problem
Report delsie777 February 24, 2015 10:42 AM GMT
Where did you hear that, mate?
Report shockster February 24, 2015 10:55 AM GMT
More Of That Scratched from World Hurdle.
Report jasey February 24, 2015 11:01 AM GMT
From a media friend,may be something in it.
If they didn't want STD to ride must be a good reason
Report alleged22 February 24, 2015 11:16 AM GMT
thought fehily had got the ride Confused
Report delsie777 February 24, 2015 1:02 PM GMT
It was the bit about Briar Hill having a problem I was interested in. Just the absolute opposite to what I understood was the case. And he's been well backed since falling last weekend
Report layingisthewayforward February 24, 2015 1:13 PM GMT
More of That out then.  I think we all owe Jonjo a group appology!
Report HaylingBilly February 24, 2015 1:32 PM GMT
Yep. Guilty. Apologies.
Report jasey February 24, 2015 1:54 PM GMT
Delsie.
I was going to back BH but holding fire for a bit now.
I heard the same about Balleycasey last year and although he drifted,he did end up running.
Report delsie777 February 24, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
I should take the 20/1 NRNB jasey. He will shorten.
Report delsie777 February 24, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
'I should take the 20/1 NRNB jasey. He will shorten'

All the 20's gone now, mate - just 12/1 with PP so doubt he has a problem
Report ACStafford February 24, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
Didn't know about the retainer. Is it like the Munir-Jacob deal? You ride for us unless we can get someone better! Hopefully Ruby rides Zark then, as I love ROR and would like to see Fehily on board.
Report buddeliea February 24, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
Ruby will be on Briar Hill and decent ground hes a big player.
SDR will have Sam on. Zark will have Fehily on. ROR ?
Report wellchief February 24, 2015 6:36 PM GMT
Coming round to having a little bit on Reve in this. Whatever the excuses for Zarkandar, Reve did beat him, and last time only went down by a short distance to SDR giving him weight.

His festival record isnt the best, but ran a cracker in the Neptune against Peddlers and Rite of Passage, and the Cleeve proves he can act around HQ.

Guaranteed stayer and his last two runs are a marked improvement on anything he's shown in the last couples of years.

25's is a decent ew price.
Report shockster February 26, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
Fehily has confirmed he will ride Zarkandar in the World Hurdle.
Report ACStafford February 26, 2015 2:38 PM GMT
Is AFC still being aimed at this race? If not, maybe AP will ride ROR?
Report shockster February 27, 2015 5:56 PM GMT
Rebecca Curtis has raised the possibility of a change of headgear for At Fishers Cross ahead of his bid to get his season back on track in the Ladbrokes World Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.

The eight-year-old is a former Festival winner having landed the Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle in 2013 and last year he ran a fine race in defeat in the World Hurdle when finishing third behind fellow JP McManus-owned runner More Of That and brilliant mare Annie Power.

He has struggled to replicate that level of form so far this season, most recently failing to fire in the Rendlesham Hurdle at Haydock, but Curtis hopes her charge can bounce back at a track that brings out the best in him and he could be aided by a pair of blinkers.

Curtis said: "I actually thought he jumped well at Haydock and we're just going to try a couple of new things.

"He seems to like Cheltenham and we're hoping that we might see a bit of improvement.

"We haven't decided yet, but we could put some headgear on him. I'll speak to Frank (Berry, McManus' racing manager) and see what he thinks."

At Fishers Cross will be part of a small but select team of Festival runners for the leading Welsh trainer.
Report superkreem February 27, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
Annie Power been backed today, Mullins stated 4 weeks that if More of That didn't make it then he would keep his options open, surely he will run Annie in the W H now ??
Report jasey February 28, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
Can't see it.
Easy race and money in mares or another thrashing in the WH.
Report layingisthewayforward February 28, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
I wouldnt call last years 2nd a thrashing.
Report jasey February 28, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
Ok then a good hiding
Report layingisthewayforward February 28, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
Lol.
Report buddeliea February 28, 2015 6:23 AM GMT
She will be in the Mares race, Ruby will be on Briar Hill, and will have a good ride.
That's my take on it fwiw!!
Report superkreem February 28, 2015 7:09 AM GMT
Annie will run in the World Hurdle, Aurora D'estruval is out which leaves the door wide open for Mullins to run Glens Melody which almost won the Mares last year, Glens would be clear fav and Annie ran a cracking race in the WH last year and would have a great favs chance, i don't think Mullins will turn the chance down to win the bigger race now.
Report Leonardo February 28, 2015 7:19 AM GMT
No way will she run in the world hurdle first time out.Connections aren't silly
Report buddeliea February 28, 2015 7:26 AM GMT
Well none of us know what she will run in,so we have to wait till confirmed by those that will know.
Personally I would completely agree Leonardo, don't think they would run her in the WH after the season she's had,or not had!!
Be real tough for her to compete in that race,whereas the Mares would be a lot easier and she might get away with it in that race where she is a fair way ahead of the others.
Report Ming_the_Merciless February 28, 2015 12:43 PM GMT
Lieutenant Colonel - no news but all the lay money has gone Cry
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK February 28, 2015 4:49 PM GMT
TOOK 50/1 FISHERS CROSS, ON FORM AS NO CHANCE, ON COURSE FORM HE DOES
STARTED DOING A RAIN DANCE NOWWink
Report Paterson92 February 28, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
"money is coming for Annie Power in the World Hurdle"

... nothing to do with the fact it's a risk free bet in the "Non Runner Money Back" markets currently offered by the majority of bookmakers? Some people need to wake up.
Report Paterson92 February 28, 2015 5:53 PM GMT
For what it's worth, Annie would be going World Hurdle had her season not been interrupted through injury. The original plan was never World Hurdle but the fact More Of That misses out would definitely have tempted Mullins/Ricci/Ruby had she went through normal preperations. It will still be in Ricci's mind that he could have 4 strong contenders for the big ones (Faugheen - Champion Hurdle, Champagne Fever - Champion Chase, Annie Power - World Hurdle and Djakadam - Gold Cup) but she missed the whole of December and has not seen a racecourse since Punchestown. There's a Grade 1 there for the taking ...
Report delsie777 February 28, 2015 5:54 PM GMT
Think he meant on here mate. Laid as big as 100/1 all the way down to 8/1.
Now bits and pieces of 12-13/1 on offer. Everytime someone hears the decision isn't yet made they take a bit of whats on offer just in case she's switched and goes off 9/4. Each to their own.
Report wellchief March 1, 2015 2:59 PM GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if Mullins ran Abbyssial in this, given that the English handicapper has given him 8lbs more than the Irish for the Coral Cup and County Hurdle.

His rating of 156 only puts him a few pounds short of Zarkandar, Rock on Ruby and Un Temps Pour Tout.  Had a little ew saver at 40's NRNB in case he goes for it rather than carrying top weight in a handicap.
Report layingisthewayforward March 2, 2015 8:53 AM GMT
Lieutenant Colonel very weak as mentioned above. Anywon heard anything ?ta
Report Colldogg March 6, 2015 5:05 AM GMT
Any guesses on who will get the ROR ride, who is available that could ride it?? Nick Schofield rides a lot for Fry so I would make him fav to get it. The only other rider i can think of who might come in for it is Daryl Jacob...
Report ACStafford March 6, 2015 8:33 AM GMT
I think he's already committed to Reve De Sivola.
Report Colldogg March 7, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
Arrrrr stupid me at the time of writing thought Dickie Johnson would be on RDS. I guess Dickie is another name you could throw in the hat, though I don't think he's ever had a ride for Harry Fry. Guess he's the highest profile and most experienced jock available at the min though.
Report shockster March 7, 2015 1:38 PM GMT
Rock on Ruby out Sad
http://www.harryfryracing.com/-news/07032015132023-ruby-out/
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 7, 2015 1:54 PM GMT
Sad

it was his destiny to win the world hurdle.
Report sintonian March 7, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
takes away a real big part of the intrigue of the race. Sad
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 7, 2015 8:58 PM GMT
Certainly a question that needed answering
Report VIKINGRETURNS March 7, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
Whisper EW
Report Ming_the_Merciless March 8, 2015 8:40 AM GMT
still like Lt Colonel for this, he is big! - built like Barracuda and just does enough in front, intriguing race.
Report delsie777 March 8, 2015 9:58 AM GMT
How about Townend on Abyssial, if they run him here?
Report sintonian March 8, 2015 11:13 AM GMT
There is money waiting to back them both but it strikes me that not many folks seem to fancy the Nichols pair, as each time there has been a non-runner, More of That, Annie P, ROR, their odds have always settled back at 5/1.
Report wellchief March 8, 2015 11:50 AM GMT
I like Abbyssial in this, although a lot to prove stamina wise.

Thought they'd go for this when the English handicapper gave him loads of weight.

40's a big price to find it his stamina holds out.
Report moat March 8, 2015 4:06 PM GMT
Agree this fella could turn out to be great value managed to grab some 9s the place
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 11, 2015 8:09 PM GMT
TTT
Report laluche March 12, 2015 12:30 PM GMT
monksland e/w
Report harry callaghan March 12, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
very well done tomdeane enjoy
Report Howdi March 12, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
couldnt have that.
Report wellchief March 13, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
I don't know what I got more wrong - this or the Champion Chase.

Was at trials day when they had the Cleeve, and I would never have thought Cole Harden would have any chance of making up that much distance with SDR.

Those who predicted that the Irish form was not very strong were spot on.

I'd keep SDR over hurdles if I was Paul Nicholls, and it'll be interesting if they run Zark in the 2.5m or 3m hurdle at Aintree.
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