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Yep. Hurricane has had enough chances to do what Istabraq did to his fields at Cheltenham and it's never happened. Anybody who thinks he's the best ever must be very young and simply cannot remember orerhaps even know of the great hurdlers of the golden age.
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If you look at times as a reliable source for the going, then looking at the times of the last 3 supremes, it reads;
2011; good 2012; good 2013; good/soft. It will be good ground tomorrow and imo not as ideal for the Fly. Either way its the race of the meeting on paper and we are all lucky the 5/6 of them have all made it to the race injury free. CAN'T WAIT |
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I can remember them too but Comedy of Errors is a bit hazy.All really good horses for sure.Golden Cygnet looked the real deal but never got the chance to prove himself an all time great.Was Night Nurse better than Monkdfield or Sea Pigeon? It was a golden era but they were always beating each other a bit like the era of Hardy,Brave Inca,Macs Joy,Sublimity.Istabraq was much flashier than the Fly.He could do no more than beat what was around at the time but there was nothing to beat...Theatreworld was a seasoned campaigner but hardly ever won a hurdle race.We will never know of course but I feel that the Fly would always beat Istabraq all out,but wouldn't beat Theatreworld by much more! That's it,daydream over.Bring on tomorrow.
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Look at my Sea Pigeon thread on here for a bit more historical context if you fancy it.
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Good thread cyclops
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When looking through the first few pages of the RP this morning and seeing the results of the last 3 CHs I was struck by how little the horses behind (or in front of in 2012) Hurricane Fly have achieved since. Either they have all gone backwards or they were sub standard runnings of the race. So we have to rely on Irish form where he is unbeaten since the year dot. It boils down to Hurricane Fly confirming his superiority against Our Conor and Jetski which I think he will and the relative merits of The New One and MTOY who have dismissed Jetski and Rock On Ruby in the past. I still think MTOY is the one.
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Place lay of the Fly was bang on, but my main bet was The New One. Gutted, it would have dotted up.
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I await the rude people who slagged me off so roundly for observing the ground would be against a soft ground specialist like Hurricane Fly returning to apologise.
The evidence of the need for plenty of give in the ground is complete. I am delighted. |
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You called it correct, fair play
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a few people were right, however you weren't right about his starting price 5-1
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Well seeing as we're puffing our chests out I wouldn't mind a few of those who gave me dogs abuse for saying that The Fly was a better animal in Ireland and that despite gutsing it out Cheltenham wasn't really his course to offer up their views now.
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CV Byrne away to rehab?
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apparently the ''times'' indicated it was good ground last year. Yeah, whatever.
A real shame what happened with Our Conor & TNO. |
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Hurricane Fly undoubtedly been a very good horse and possible that as a 10yo, would be unfair to crib him unduly for getting beat today.
But given the trainer and jockey's assertion that he was better than ever, you have to assume he is just not as good at Cheltenham and/or on Good ground and/or against a decent gallop. Maybe people can accept now why he hasn't been given quite the same accolades in the UK as in Ireland? Has won two moderate Champion Hurdles and was comfortably put in his place today having travelled well against the strongest field he has probably ever faced. Ruby's response looked of shell shock afterwards. Don't think he could believe didn't pick up in the straight having gone strongly to that point, so no excuses. Very good horse yes..... but maybe not a great one? |
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sintonian
11 Mar 14 21:19 Joined: 21 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 23,193 | Blogger: sintonian's blog apparently the ''times'' indicated it was good ground last year. Yeah, whatever. The times indicated good/soft last year, As posted above |
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I'd consider Hurricane Fly a great horse and I'd be careful not to label many horses as greats.
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I await the rude people who slagged me off so roundly for observing the ground would be against a soft ground specialist like Hurricane Fly returning to apologise.
You were right yes, well done but he isn't a soft ground specialist or a mudlark. |