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Clarky9
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By:
CR7
When: 25 Feb 14 13:21
Wont even place Bobs worth wins
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 25 Feb 14 13:36
If the ground dries out you'd have to question whether he will even be there.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 13:37
4-5 lengths ahead of 5th maybe but erm that's it...3rd race in 3 months...watch him bounce all the way up the run in. If he turns up of course
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 13:37
This another cert Clarky like Ruby Walsh riding a winner for Paul Nicholls at the Festival?
By:
shockster
When: 25 Feb 14 13:48
How much NEEDLE will it get?
By:
tomdeane
When: 25 Feb 14 14:06
I think it might well win, and would be shocked if it doesn't run. Even if the ground is good, I think they'll chance it. He's fully effective on quicker ground, for what it's worth, which makes the carrot of a Gold Cup victory all the more tempting (it would be understandable if they wanted to mind him because of previous injuries and he didn't act on decent ground, but only the first part of that is true).

More importantly, the form he showed in blitzing them in the Hennessy is up there with the best of what we've seen this season (behind only Silviniaco Conti's King George win in my opinion). He is a phenomenal jumper, which counts for a lot, he quickens smartly and looks like stamina will not be an issue. more importantly now, he won't be fighting Cue Card for the lead. This horse is a massive player now. As I type I am talking myself into a decent bet!
By:
alleged22
When: 25 Feb 14 14:15
stamina wont be an issue after all the roids he,s been on for two years
By:
cmacedin
When: 25 Feb 14 14:32
Cant see it taking part.
By:
alleged22
When: 25 Feb 14 14:33
is it unfortunate for connections?, go to a Ryanair check in desk and explain to all the travellers what a lovely guy oleary is Laugh then run as fast as you can, will oleary let this run and run you betya he will, for the good of the festival or not.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 14:36
Unfortunate for connections my arse. Horse shouldnt be running. End of.
By:
alleged22
When: 25 Feb 14 14:41
I must say it was nice of the bha to inform everyone of their impeding arrival
By:
Arklearkle
When: 25 Feb 14 14:52
Horse will run and would not be surprised if he ran out an easy winner. He has all the form.
By:
shockster
When: 25 Feb 14 14:53
Yes Alleged.  Wouldn't want to turn up unannounced, look what trouble that has caused. Laugh
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 14:56
Hope he gets ****
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 15:00
Last Instalment doesn't worry me to be honest. Can't really see how he can beat Bobs Worth or Silviniaco Conti myself. Beating a 13yo 8 lengths who was pumped 30 in the Betfair then beat in a handicap isn't that big a deal IMO
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 15:02
In fact I'd take it further by saying 7-1 is fooking rubbish lol
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 15:02
Esp if Clarky is on itLaugh
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 15:03
No disrespect intended of course...all fun n games
By:
tomdeane
When: 25 Feb 14 15:21
Controls the pace, quickens coming down the hill, jumps them silly
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 25 Feb 14 16:05
...gets booed back to the winners enclosure....fails the drugs test.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:15
So beating a 13yo means he's gonna easily beat the Cheltenham specialist and easy King George winner? WALOFS
By:
tomdeane
When: 25 Feb 14 16:37
Bobs Worth is a very worthy favourite and no surprise to see him win but he is 7/4 and Last Instalment is 9/1 on here. Bobs was rank bad in the Betfair and then quietly impressive in the Lexus. Still, he beat First Lieutenant by a little over a length whereas the 9/1 alternative pulverised that same horse last time. First Lieut might not have run his race the last day, but then again, maybe he did. The ground was the same as in the Lexus.

Anyway, the point is that Last Instalment is the best jumper and will control the pace here. No surprise to see him take them along at nothing more than a gentle one and then wind it up from the front, which will put pressure on Bobs' and Conti's jumping (the latter is obviously a top-notcher but he fell last year and might not want this to be tactical either as he is a very sound stayer).

Tidal Bay might be 13 but he is a mid-160 horse when on his game. Whichever way you rate the Hennessy, Last Instalment is a very good horse and he looked value for more than the winning margin. For the doubters, I suggest watching it again. He injects an impressive turn of foot to take lengths out of them in a few strides on turning in and should still be improving given his light workload in recent seasons (and this).

Nonsensical for people to boo him if he wins. Obviously the trainer has a lot of questions to answer, but even if he is guilty, it might very well not be for this horse. Also, I suspect we're all being very naive if we think Fenton is the only trainer allowing vets to use steroids (if he even did - he is still innocent at this stage let's remember) when building horses back from injury.
By:
buddeliea
When: 25 Feb 14 16:43
Very well put Tom
By:
Arklearkle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:45
There may be some questions over the ground and distance but LI is the class horse in the field no matter where you look. Even as a novice he beat First Lieut quite readily also.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:46
He's the class horse in the field with the reigning Gold Cup n King George winners in there?you sure?
By:
Arklearkle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:49
Time will tell. Not long ago PFN was telling us that Silviniano
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:52
Never ran at Cheltenham either...7s is a shocker man!
By:
Arklearkle
When: 25 Feb 14 16:59
Time will tell. Not long ago PFN was telling us that Chelts would not suit Conti and he may be right. Besides he couldnt beat First Lieut at Aintree last year either whereas BW and LI are tired beating him. I agree BW has proved everything but at the prices?
By:
buddeliea
When: 25 Feb 14 18:15
Apparently they are doing a hair test on Last Instalment,and is that right that anything up to a year can be detetected??

Would be nice to know all is above board before the horse lines up in the Gold Cup.

Incidentally, anyone know why The Tullow Tank was withdrawn so quickly?? And will he be tested as well??
By:
alleged22
When: 25 Feb 14 18:22
6 months I believe budd
By:
Quvega
When: 25 Feb 14 18:30
Pretty sure drugs can be detected in hair for up to six months so it would obviously have to be older, longer hair i.e from tail or mane as the coat is usually clipped fairly regularly.

Don't be surprised if LI turns up on the Friday with a very short tail and his mane cropped to a buzz cut Devil
By:
buddeliea
When: 25 Feb 14 18:52
Laugh

Cheers lads. Would not have a clue myself, but it would be nice to know the horse has not been interfered with for at least a year,maybe not at all. And if it cannot be proved hes taken anything, then i guess he will be ok to run.
I want him to run as hes my biggest winner of the week,but i do want it all to be above board.
By:
wellchief
When: 25 Feb 14 18:55
I would have LI, Conti, and would have had Cue Card over Bob's Worth in this.  Bob's is a shocking price, and can't see why he is half the price of Conti.  It's his previous festival form that has him as favourite, when on this years races, Conti and LI should be ahead of him.
By:
wellchief
When: 25 Feb 14 18:56
^^^ Cue a torrent of abuse from Bobs Worth backers
By:
buddeliea
When: 25 Feb 14 19:02
Yep, this seasons form has Bob behind those 2,absolutely.
By:
ACStafford
When: 25 Feb 14 19:27
Well Festival form is clearly very relevant. He deserves to be favourite, being the reigning champ and 3/3 at the Festival, but I'd agree that he's plenty short enough.
By:
wellchief
When: 25 Feb 14 19:53
Just want to point out that I have nothing against Bobs at all.  What's there not to like about a tough little battler like him?

It's just that repeat Gold Cup winners are extremely rare, and Conti and LI have performed better this season; its as simple as that.  The question marks about Henderson and his yard have to enter the equation as well, because he's had a very poor season by his standards.

It has to come down to price, and even though there is no Cue Card, I can't see how anyone would go in at 7/4.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 20:02
Cue Card had no chance anyway unless they took 3 furlongs off but Bobs Worth is the Cheltenham horse.Last Instalment never even ran there and ok won the Hennessey but beating a 13yo and First Lieutenant who hated the ground and who never wins fook all along with other dogs isn't the best to be honest.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 25 Feb 14 20:03
I'm sure the Irish Hennesssey is a Mickey Mouse trial as well for this no?
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