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he isn't bothered with aintree apart from the national and martell hurdle
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Mullins has the money men now and fair play , he will get first shout in the bloodstock market because he has the money behind him, doesnt mean he is head and shoulders above the rest mate he is top class but id say there are a few at least given the same horses would get the same results and at better prices that tells me to be wary of the value and id think twice before backing some of his horses at the prices on offer unless i was a multi millionaire id be with someone else.
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I think you will find that he has won more than any other trainer in UK or Ire this season and that does not include the monies won in Japan and/or France.
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swings and roundabouts though aint it mate, a few years ago nicholls earnt more prizemoney than aiden obrien did on the flat , takes some doing that does
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Nicky Henderson hasnt had a great start to the season does that mean Mullins is head and shoulders above him, what if oleary stuck all his horses in Meads or Fentons yard do you think Mullins would be head and shoulders above them,if richy rich fell out with willy and moved his horses what then, i would think any less of him but im guessin those winners would be less frequent , id say the man has worked hard has the talent and is reeping the rewards i dont think himself would say he is head and shoulders above his fellow trainers.
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13 Feb 14 14:11 Joined: 18 Feb 12 | Topic/replies: 1,569 | Blogger: alleged22's blog the morriaty race last week was just a smokescreen ive heard it all now, men in white coats time for someone who refer's to a trainer and jockey as mullie and walshy (maybe theyre mate's of your's)you have the neck to use the phrase 'men in white coats'![]() ![]() |
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Slabster,I suppose if Simonsig hadnt run in that neptune,he would have been an impressive winner of the race! That neptune run was just average.Simonsig was the grade 1 horse,the rest were nowhere.If I was going on that form,I wouldnt touch him.Hes miles better over fences.
Another example is Sire De Grugy mopping up the grade 1s when Sprinter isnt around.Doesnt mean hes a top notcher,just means hes the best of a very average bunch. |
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when he had kauto, denman and was mopping up all the Saturday meetings duffy
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Most the thing with the money men is Mullins goes to France and buys the horse then sells it to the owner in his yard so he would still have the winners just different owners, u think ricci goes to France and picks the horse he wants and then decides it goes go Willie or Wylie does the same??? 2 examples zaidpour was bought by Mullins then sold to ricci. Black Hercules was owned and bred by Patrick and Emmet, Emmet trained it to wins its p2p then send the DVD to Wylie who liked the horse and bought it.
If them 2 owners didn't buy them horses they would still be in Mullins yard regardless so you point of different trainers same results is irrelevant as Mullins sourced the horses 1st to buy then sell them to owners within his yard. |
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07/08 season duffy 4 million in prizemoney
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jeez, on the face of it, it doesn't sound possible
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Alleged champagne fever was never going to run last week,it is going for arkle and always has been,Mullins is a good trainer,but does talk a load of Shiite..just like yourself
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ffs Carlisle united number 1 i am just repeating what mr mullins said on a live interview, if you cant get your head round that, that's not my problem ok
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If richi and wylie werent in the yard willie would not be spendin the same money also if he didnt have the owners in the yard to buy the top horses he would wave a wand and make the ones he had richer or kick them out and get richer ones, any way if he doesnt have the rich owners he doesnt buy the same TOP horses SIMPLE some else does ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY well mainly
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duffy i think it was the year kauto won the betfair 1 million bonus.
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And I'm saying ballycasey was no reserve,if Mullins told me it was going to get dark tonight I would look out ma curtains !
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Moat you talking b@alls mate, Mullins is a millionaire himself he Doesnt nessesarily need the ricci or Wylie, they choose to come.to him!! he came into the game when Meade was champion trainer, he overtook him no 1 can get a look in now AMD its because he has money men?. He sources the horse, some which are not that dear, huriicane fly for example €33000 I think. He has an eye for a horse and its proven hence he champion trainer year after year, and gets winner no matter where he goes as I have stated.
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And see the postman,the milkman,the newspaper boy all queuing up to take their turn!
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can,t be bothered its like talking to a brick wall, even though a few hundred thousand witnessed the interview on atr, Carlisle knows best
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There will be loads of other threads regards mullins & the races he picks for the novice horses.
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and there will be the same old names day in day out discussing them on here. You actually wonder whether certain individuals on here have their life savings on certain horses...
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Calm down McKeown I know a little more than you think, he may be a millionair but if he doesnt have the owners with deep pockets are you saying he would run and train them himself, wipe your mouth McKeown
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Well personally ive mostly punted with the nrfb option and im not a big stakes punter, so not much damage done financially whatever mullins chooses for his horses.
Reason I get involved is cos I enjoy talking about NH racing and the festival in particular, just love it. I also love seeing as many good races as possible,and will put my point across if I feel I want to and I have a contribution that is worth posting. I want FY in the Arkle. I want AP and UDS in the CH. Those 3 horses have got me most involved as re Mullins horses and the debates surrounding them. Admittedly I will make money if they were to win, so yes some pocket talk. But I also honestly feel that the Arkle and the CH will be better spectacles for their respective presence. |
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Alleged I'm not saying he didn't say it,I'm saying they tell us owt,ballydoylam you spend your life trying to poo poo everyone else's opinions
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If i hadnt backed our connor id be rootin for UDS to run, regards annie power either race would be great , taking on the fly or big bucks you want her to run in the stayers otherwise it takes a lot out of the stayers if she doesnt run in the champion it will stillbe one of the most interesting line ups i can think off for quite sometime
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Busy day on this thread today.
Hope this helps people realise how Wylie Thinks; It is not clear cut at this stage which races, Felix Yonger and Briar Hill, also trained by Mullins, will go for at Cheltenham. "(For) Felix Yonger it's a question of which race he goes into. I know there's big debate going on about whether it's the Arkle or the Jewson," he said. "I think we should wait and see what the ground is like and what the other entries are like nearer the time. "I'm excited about Briar Hill. Again we're not sure what race he'll go in. He's entered in all three novice hurdles at Cheltenham. Willie knows all his horses very well and knows what shape they are in. I'm sure he'll pick the right race." |
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I'm very surprised at those comments
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I enjoyed reading someones opinion stating Mullins would still buy the most expensive NH horses on the planet even if he didn't have the top owners behind him.
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"I enjoyed reading someones opinion stating Mullins would still buy the most expensive NH horses on the planet even if he didn't have the top owners behind him"
He's such a good judge of a horse he could probably make a good few bob from personal purchase and re-sale. One of the reasons he has big owners is because he can also spot a horse for them. |
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A lot of trainers go to the sales and purchase horses knowing they can flog them off to their owners.
When you have some of the richest owners in the game on your side you can bid on the top lots. It's not rocket science. It has been happening for years and years. |
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Graeme83 27 Jan 13 19:29 Joined: 21 Sep 07 | Topic/replies: 8,332 | Blogger: Graeme83's blog
It's his chasers not jumping, so if yet another of his top chasers fails to cut the mustard, then yes it would make SDC backers nervous, as the pattern is now emerging. Cheltenham has nothing to do with his jumping issues in 2 of his last 3 races. I wouldn't put anyone off backing his, but the consitency isn't there over the bigger obstacles. When it comes to get a chaser preped race in, race out, then i have to say that Mullins isn't up to the standard of Paul Nicholls for example. The Wylie's should have sent Boston Bob to PN. That's my opinion. Graeme83 27 Jan 13 20:03 Joined: 21 Sep 07 | Topic/replies: 8,332 | Blogger: Graeme83's blog I didn't think that even he could screw up a horse who jumped like SDC did in the Jewson. I genuinely believe that if Mouse Morris or Paul Nicholls trained these horses such as Boston Bob and SDC, that we wouldn't be having this conversation. Can you seriously tell me that you'd be as confident backing a chaser with Mullins as you would with Nicholls or Morris et al ? But he's such a good judge eh Graeme? |
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Ballydoyle stated that he backed Faugheen for the 3 miler, then denied it. What he knows about racing can be written on the back of a match box .
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Plus he backs horses he doesn't think will win, and lays losers. As much substance as an empty box.
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Eh?
I HAVE backed Faugheen at 8-1 for the 3 miler. And the Neptune at 11.5. Stated clearly on stevo1s thread, as I have already told you. (Ballydoyle shakes his head and sighs....AGAIN) |
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Laying losers isn't the worst crime to be fair Graeme.
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Plus he backs horses he doesn't think will win, and lays losers. As much substance as an empty box.
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Graeme - do me a favour mate. Just block me.
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brandyontherocks 13 Feb 14 20:40 Joined: 04 Dec 06 | Topic/replies: 598 | Blogger: brandyontherocks's blog Laying losers isn't the worst crime to be fair Graeme. Rate reply: | report block user Oh dear Graeme....AGAIN. |