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By:
unclepuncle
When: 12 Mar 13 17:14
Tricast in the Champion Hurdle as well to boot.Shocked
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 12 Mar 13 17:17
Hope it keeps going, especially in the last race!
By:
tomking
When: 12 Mar 13 19:52
Great start - well done JOCI!

Interesting to see other stats threads/sites. 

The weighting applied to the trends appear to be equally (if not more) important than the trends themselves imo.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 12 Mar 13 22:14
Cheers, not a bad day today. Managed to get the first 5 winners, which was my best first day ever. That also included Champagne Fever @ 23 and even better Golden Chieftain, who came top of the ratings after the overnight declarations, came in at 36! Brilliant to see Hurricane Fly come back to form, and Quevega to battle back from a seemingly impossible position. For those of you who got my spreadsheet, then hope you managed to be on a couple of the winners. The trends even called the first 2 home in a couple of races. Let's not get carried away though, as tomorrow could be a completely different proposition.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 12 Mar 13 22:29
Not bad Laugh

very well done Joci
By:
wallis
When: 12 Mar 13 23:07
JOCI , can you tell me why Drawn N Drank is so low in your ratings for the Hunt chase when he appears to tick nearly all the boxes ? thanks
By:
alleged22
When: 13 Mar 13 00:47
top notch joci
By:
thewrongtrousers
When: 13 Mar 13 14:02
Well done for yesterday Joci, wish I'd seen the thread then would have been top of the local Nap - oh well can't complain am still in second.

Selections look good for today as well the only one I'm not sure about is Boston Bob, he's a definite lay for me, although saying that I normally have at least one wrong a day so may well be that one.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 14 Mar 13 00:45
Another decent day today. Three winners, The New One was 100% rated, and a decent price at 6s. Then the machine, Sprinter Sacre at 1/4 and managed to find the winner of the Coral Cup, Medinas at 42/1 on the Tote (however I did back my top 5 rated in that race to spread my risk) and was concentrating on one of my other selections Ericht, when Medinas came from the clouds. Bit unlucky in the RSA as Boston Bob fell when in front at the last, but cannot be too greedy. Tomorrow I like Dynaste, Top of the Range, First Lieutenant, have backed both Reve de Sivola and Oscar Whisky, and Arabella Boy in the Cross Country. still working on the trends for the Byrne and Kim Muir, but beer getting in the way. Good luck tomorrow.
By:
Fela Kuti
When: 14 Mar 13 08:19

Mar 14, 2013 -- 12:45AM, JOCI Club wrote:


Another decent day today. Three winners, The New One was 100% rated, and a decent price at 6s. Then the machine, Sprinter Sacre at 1/4 and managed to find the winner of the Coral Cup, Medinas at 42/1 on the Tote (however I did back my top 5 rated in that race to spread my risk) and was concentrating on one of my other selections Ericht, when Medinas came from the clouds. Bit unlucky in the RSA as Boston Bob fell when in front at the last, but cannot be too greedy. Tomorrow I like Dynaste, Top of the Range, First Lieutenant, have backed both Reve de Sivola and Oscar Whisky, and Arabella Boy in the Cross Country. still working on the trends for the Byrne and Kim Muir, but beer getting in the way. Good luck tomorrow.


Was looking through this thread yesterday for Medinas race but couldnt see any write up. All I saw was your choices for yesterday where you only mentioned Pendra. Have you got a list of all the ratings for today?

By:
wallis
When: 14 Mar 13 11:48
hmmm... I dont see mention of The New One (supposedly 100% rated ?) or Medinas - what gives ?


1:30 Godsmejudge @ 11.5-13.5; Hunters Lodge @ 150 Grin
2:05 Pont Alexandre @ 3.25
2:40 Super Duty @ 30; Boston Bob @ 5.3
3:20 Sprinter Sacre @ SP
4:00 Pendra @ 11
4:40 Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man @ 23
5:15 Purple Bay @ 44
By:
thewrongtrousers
When: 14 Mar 13 12:07

Mar 14, 2013 -- 11:48AM, wallis wrote:


hmmm... I dont see mention of The New One (supposedly 100% rated ?) or Medinas - what gives ?1:30 Godsmejudge @ 11.5-13.5; Hunters Lodge @ 150 Grin2:05 Pont Alexandre @ 3.252:40 Super Duty @ 30; Boston Bob @ 5.33:20 Sprinter Sacre @ SP4:00 Pendra @ 114:40 Bordoni @ 14; Zamdy Man @ 235:15 Purple Bay @ 44


I might have it wrong but I was under the impression that the list there were his choices for the race and not the top rated choices which is what he is refering to above. E.g. he has chosen First Lieutenant today rather then Reve de Sivola. Although the ratings list did seem to be missing for that race yesterday.

Come on JOCI pull your finger out and get the last two ratings up for todayGrin

By:
JOCI Club
When: 15 Mar 13 01:20
No winners on Thursday, and only a second place for First Lieutenant.  The big handicaps had to wait til last minute due to time constraints of going through the large fields, but Medinas came out top rated and was backed on the day. The New One was top rated, but as I had a big fancy for Pont Alexandre, I ended up backing both.  For tomorrow, we have 1:30 Far West 2:05 Undecided 2:40 At Fishers Cross 3:20 Sir Des Champs 4:00 Creevytennant and Salsify 4:40 and 5:15 Undecided. Good luck.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 15 Mar 13 12:49
1:30 Far West 76%; Our Conor 74% - have backed both

2:05 Edgardo Sol 91%; Kings Lad 91%; Brampour 86%; Abbey Lane 86%; Dan Breen 84%; Ted Veale 84% - backed Edgardo Sol, Kings Lad and Ted Veale

2:40 At Fishers Cross 86%; African Gold 73% - main bet AFC and saver AG

3:20 Sir Des Champs 94%, Long Run 89%, Silviniaco Continue 83% - backed SDC and SC

4:00 Salsify 93%, Divine Intavention 90%' Creevytennant 89% - backed all three

4:40 No trends - Backed Gevrey Chambertain

5:15 Alderwood 78%, Benefficient 77%, His Excellency 76%, Tetlami 70% - backed all four

Good luck on final day.
By:
alleged22
When: 15 Mar 13 13:35
ive been waiting for your county evaluation joci

Dan Breen 84% think i,ll side with this old dog Happy
By:
Fela Kuti
When: 15 Mar 13 17:18
Your picks have done well today. Well done.
By:
duffy
When: 15 Mar 13 17:25
Very well done, joci, and modest with it, great stuff and hope you won plenty.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 15 Mar 13 23:41
Thanks. After a blank day Thursday (for some reason, usually a bad day for me), today was much better, with another five winners, making it my most successful Festival ever for winners.

The following obliged for me today:

Our Connor @ 5
Ted Veale @ 11.5
At Fishers Cross @ prices between 4.1 & 6.2
Salsify @ 3.85
Alderwood @ 6.8

I didn't actually benefit from the following, but the trends also pointed out:

(1) Far West & Our Connor as two top rated (finished 2nd / 1st)
(2) At Fishers Cross & African Gold as two top rated (finished 1st / 2nd)
(3) Salsify & Divine Intavention as two top rated (finished 1st / 2nd with exacta paying over 200)

Just missed out on the Placepot, with Gevrey Chambertain (in a non trends race) letting me down.

So, that made a total of 14 winners for the week (6,3,0,5), which far surpassed anything I've ever managed before.

The trends came up trumps this year!
By:
Tucho
When: 16 Mar 13 01:07
that is an incredible return, well played

must be very satisfying piling hours into it and getting results like that
By:
JOCI Club
When: 16 Mar 13 01:36
Was pleased it all worked out in the end, but realise it could so easily go the other way (as it did on Thursday). Another thing that was reinforced in my mind is that the trends can / should be used to narrow down the field to a manageable set of horses that are the most likely winners, then instinct and form study (especially keeping an eye on collateral form from horses that run well during the festival) shoould be used in the final selection process.

I missed Bobs Worth this week, despire everything suggesting he would run a very big race, especially his incredible record around the course. However, I deserted him, due to a number of factors like lack of recent run, relative inexperience, and lack of grade one win this season. That came back to bite me, so maybe need to be a bit more flexible in future.

One pleasing thing is that trend analysis often comes up with market leaders as selections (for obvious reasons), but it can also put you on to some less obvious, big price runners that have the capacity to perform well, but which the market might have overlooked e.g. Medinas, Golden Chieftain, Divine Intavention and others.

Will now have a bash at some of the key Aintree races using the same methodology, and see how it works out.

If anyone would like to see copies of the final spreadsheet for each day, drop me a message and I can forward you on copies.
By:
princealbert
When: 16 Mar 13 11:23
great work joci,was fun reading through the thread all week and im glad yer hard work payed off
By:
sean rua
When: 16 Mar 13 13:20
Excellent work, Joci, well done!
By:
King Selassie I
When: 16 Mar 13 14:38
Brilliant Joci. A lot of work put into this year. I'm not usually a trends man but you cant knock it. Good luck with Aintree. Also good to see people helping others to beat the 'enemy'.
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