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By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Jan 13 18:39
No they couldn't Roo,but they will be a lot fitter in March i should think.
Certainly the ROR of last March would quicken off a fair pace,and if so thats wnen Zarkander backers will know how different he is this year.
I would be confident that Zarkander is a lot stronger now hes of CHurdle age,but not so confident hes good enough to win,and certainly not confident enough to back him at his current price.
By:
roobuck
When: 10 Jan 13 18:43
Duffy I think we could carry on going round the houses and never get even close to agreeing Grin

The whole point about the International was it was a very slow pace that would not suit a 'slow' horse. So what if he wasn't travelling as easily, the 'quicker' horses couldn't go past. If they cannot go past off a slow pace, then not going to happen off a stronger pace when stamina is at a premium. People seem so convinced that ROR 'blew up' - he has a history of being best fresh and has had long gaps between races.

Lets suppose he was 100% last year - not a bad effort for a very inexperienced 5yo imo. Normal progression etc
By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Jan 13 18:47
Well it ROR did not blow up,what happened?
By:
duffy
When: 10 Jan 13 18:50
when you stop as quyickly as he did there are two possibles....he either blew up or he bled....and we know he never bled.!
By:
robbo69
When: 10 Jan 13 18:55
Maybe he got outbattled by a race fit horse. Maybe outstayed on bad ground or just maybe he is not as good as people think... winning last years champion was maybe not that great a performance, he beat overturn Is that good enough to win any of the last 20 CH. Ruby gave HF to much to do as did AP on binocular and Zar was 'maybe' at less than 100%
By:
roobuck
When: 10 Jan 13 18:57
As an aside plan A for ROR is the Contenders Hurdle at Sandown of if very soft will go to Kingwell
By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Jan 13 18:58
Well if you watch every race ROR has been in,you will see a lot different horse to that we saw lto.

You really think that is as good as ROR is??
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By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Jan 13 19:01
Course you dont,so he must have got outbattled,or outstayed,even though he stopped as if he got shot!!

Blew up,its plain to see.
By:
robbo69
When: 10 Jan 13 19:04
I dont think hes a superstar thats all, wasn't i n the top 3 or 4 in betting last year so was perhaps a shock winner
By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Jan 13 19:09
Hardy was a shock winner,he won it the following year.

Anyway,i cant find any fault in ROR's performance last year,and a repeat will have him very close this year imo.
By:
duffy
When: 10 Jan 13 19:10
robbo,
Don't know if you are named after him but your namesake was one of my fav. staying chasers from a few years back, and I know for a fact that he'd have loved to have been able to race handy.Love
By:
robbo69
When: 10 Jan 13 19:15
Was named after the 1972 Derby winner actually. Just a little cross ive had to carry though life. Are you running out of reasoned arguements it will be back to nursing in casualty if thats all you got lol....
By:
duffy
When: 10 Jan 13 19:19
I was attempting a little down memory lane interlude, I won't bother next timeSad
By:
roobuck
When: 10 Jan 13 19:22
or ROR does actually need a strong pace to finish off?

I would put forward an argument, simply for discussion so don't over react, that his most impressive performance was actually in the Fielden last year....1st time out!
By:
robbo69
When: 10 Jan 13 19:24
And i thought you were challenging me at the wity one lines rather than just racing !!!
Good point on Hardy by the way what a horse, backed him on all 3 of his festival wins arh happy days...
By:
duffy
When: 10 Jan 13 19:31
That was buddGrin.
By:
robbo69
When: 10 Jan 13 19:36
will have to look back at ROR in that race, dont recall it. Would love to see him jump a fence one day but cant see it now
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 10 Jan 13 19:45
In the build up to the Bula they commented on each horse and the race reader (I think it may have been Cunningham) said that he looked big enough. He didn't elaborate but I took that to mean that he thought he would strip fitter for the run. He certainly looked as if he ran that way to me.

I think you could make a case for any of the three based on that race and based on how he had travelled at Wincanton I concluded that Zarkandar was simply a better horse than last year. I don't really care why, sometimes you just have to accept what your eyes tell you and I think that was a strong race with three very good horses.
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