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sageform
29 Dec 12 11:50
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I note that this horse is qualified for the Supreme Novice and is 16/1 for it. Anyone heard or read of any plans for it? Would surely start favourite if it ran in the Supreme?

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BETTY
When: 29 Dec 12 11:51
Nicholls said after Christmas Hurdle run he would be going for Supreme
By:
.Fidway.
When: 29 Dec 12 12:19
backe 3 horses for cheltenham so far. dodging bullets is one, sir des champs is another and dynaste at 16s is the last one Love
By:
sageform
When: 29 Dec 12 18:41
Thanks, interesting.
By:
gravy
When: 29 Dec 12 23:50
I spotted this back in the summer and thought I was being clever jumping onto the 20s.
Now it's won both novice races this season and ran an excellent third against seniors in the Christmas Hurdle, yet you can still get 16s.
I feel like there is something I am missing and everyone knows it has no chance except me....
By:
Glossy
When: 30 Dec 12 00:06
Everyone's assuming something better will come along gravy. Little do they know that nothing in the novice division would get that close to the likes of Darlan and C.Flame. Bet of the Festival so far IMO.
By:
gravy
When: 30 Dec 12 01:35
I agree Glossy. Huge price. Finished close to Grumrti last season and has improved. Fair enough, a youngster might beat him, but I can't kick him out if the frame
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 12:48
He's a biblical winner in my book. Backed him after he lost at aintree last season meaning he'd still be a novice. Jezki looks a superb horse but DB won't be out of the frame come the day. Will be 2nd or 3rd fav.
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 30 Dec 12 13:16
Wheres the 16s please,top price 14s on oddschecker?
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 13:23
Was 16's has since been cut to 14s after Kempton run.
By:
onehundredandeighty
When: 30 Dec 12 13:33
Ok cheers CV,14s is still very very attractive though
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 13:49
Very, it's a great ew price as he will certainly make the frame. He needs a fast run race so to come 3rd in that joke pace at Kempton was a great run.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 30 Dec 12 15:01
Does it not put anyone off that he has already had 3 runs this campaign?Confused
By:
Howdi
When: 30 Dec 12 15:06
he's hardly a 'certainty' though CV
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 15:35
He'll go straight to the festival now a fresh horse. He needs a fast run race and he got neither on his last 2 starts.

I said he will 'certainly make the frame' Howdi, think you've misread.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 30 Dec 12 15:44
cv where did you read he would go straight to the festival??

thanks
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 15:51
After he won at Cheltenham, Nicholls said he wants a fast run race and they'll prob go for Christmas Hurdle next then be put away till Cheltenham.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 30 Dec 12 15:57
ah fair play... not sure that would be a good thing quite a free running type...best to get a run into him wouldn't you think?

think he will go to the dovecote but we will see...I would certainly like to see them prep it just to take the freshness off him

got stuck out wide in the triumph and took quite a hold...anyway all about opinions but that is what i'd like to see happen with the horse
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CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 16:41
I'd run him again, but Nicholla knows what he's doing imo.

He was of course running free in the Christmas Hurdle, I could have walked faster than they went in that.

Supreme the go like the clappers and it's exactly what he wants. Helps him settle like he did in Supreme.
By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 16:41
*Like he did in Triumph, not Supreme
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 30 Dec 12 16:48
Aye have took some 14s off baldys for supreme, heres hoping for a good run and a nice bit of value come race day Cool

Already have JEZKI 8/1 MY TENT OR YOURS 10/1 + 20/1, and PUFFIN BILLY @ 6/1 (to win any race at the festival with billy's) Excited
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SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 30 Dec 12 16:49
Waiting to see what race Puffin will go to before having a place only bet on him on here. Hopefully the price will be right as all my antepost are always each way.
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Howdi
When: 30 Dec 12 17:04
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He'll go straight to the festival now a fresh horse. He needs a fast run race and he got neither on his last 2 starts.

I said he will 'certainly make the frame' Howdi, think you've misread.
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By:
CVByrne
When: 30 Dec 12 23:15
Howdi you quoted me as if I called him a 'certainty' I did not and as such corrected you. Mischief
By:
resner not lesnar
When: 31 Dec 12 00:50
I'm starting to come round to Dodging Bullets, he does seem overpriced to me. Already got Puffin Billy onside but his run against the big boys seems good form for a novice and Nicholls record in the Supreme isn't too bad. Would be a little concerned if they didn't have another run as I think only Capt Ceebee has got away without a run in the same calendar year in this race in recent years
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 31 Dec 12 10:49
I'm the same resner. Wasnt really a fan, but the more I look at the race, the more he stands out to me. Have add him at 14's each way.
By:
wellchief
When: 31 Dec 12 11:16
I put this fella up at the start of the season at 20's ew.

I do think he should be shorter than he currently is based on his runs this year, but imo I wouldn't be surprised if he ran into one or two too good - just a gut feeling.

Also, I'm not a stats man at all, but no winner of the Sharp Novices Hurdle has gone on to win the Supreme for well over 10 years (Steps to Freedom, Cue Card, Loosen My Load, Golan Way, I'msingingtheblues, Moon Over Miami etc etc).
By:
sageform
When: 31 Dec 12 13:57
I realise that Countrywide Star and Ciders ran below form at Kempton, but Dodging bullets did beat the winners of the Supreme and the Triumph from last year in a race not run to his strength.
By:
Iloveliamslips
When: 31 Dec 12 14:29
Couldn't av DB on my mind for the supreme, he will be lucky to get a sight of Jezkis' ass, let alone sniff it Love
By:
harry callaghan
When: 31 Dec 12 16:50
interesting...very fit horse jezki after 5 starts already this season...lets hope this fellow hasn't peeked to early liam for your sake anyway.
By:
sageform
When: 31 Dec 12 20:20
Has Jezki met a horse that represents last years form on good ground yet?
By:
willie the milk
When: 02 Jan 13 20:10
Decided to take Victors 12s nrns. Cracking bet. Has plenty of jumping experience now, run at last years festival when an excellent 4th to Countrywide Flame on only his 2nd go over hurdles in the Triumph. This year he has now finished in front of last years Triumph winner and the Supreme winner when a very creditible 3rd in the top quality Xmas Hurdle. Big chance imho
By:
CVByrne
When: 02 Jan 13 20:17
Don't get why River Maigue is shorter in betting. DB gave him 7lbs and a 2l beating. Can't see why that will be reversed.
By:
Howdi
When: 02 Jan 13 20:47
connections have been bullish about River and he hadnt had the benefit of a run when he met DB
By:
bluebirdfan
When: 03 Jan 13 10:41
Interesting to see Timeform have put Court Minstrel up for the Tolworth and the Supreme
By:
CVByrne
When: 03 Jan 13 15:20
What's very interesting is how Nichollshas twice said he wants a strong gallop and the only time he got that he ran a great race in Triumph on only his 2nd start.
By:
buddeliea
When: 03 Jan 13 16:56
would not have either in the supreme,but i do feel that in time River will be the better of the two,probably next season will be one to watch out for.He looks to me capable of a lot more imrovement than DB is.
By:
harry callaghan
When: 03 Jan 13 18:22
budd why can't you have dodging bullets you never said why???
By:
buddeliea
When: 03 Jan 13 18:42
I think what weve seen of him is as good as he is Harry,and ive been more impressed visually with Puffin Billy and Jezki,and i would not be at all surprised if River improved past him this season.
Yeh,i may be wrong but i wont be backing him.I have PB and will definitely have Jezki on side,that would do me.
By:
willie the milk
When: 03 Jan 13 18:55
Puffin Billy's form is nowhere near as strong as DB. Your backing "potential" against form in the book.
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