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Despite my concerns over ROR this season, I will have him as a saver on to day if the ground is better than soft, and genuinely so. it will need to be backed up by evidence from first couple of races.
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I'm not convinced by the Fly at all now. He's been beating very little.
not the horses fault sint he can only beat whats put in front of him.... |
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true alleged. He may make me look a pratt.
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it is tough to call for sure
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This racechas been my best success story in terms of ap betting. Decent e/w on Zarkandar at 14's and a hefty bet on HF at 5/1 and 9/2. But for some reason Im still not happy. Gone off both of them the last week or two and starting to think ROR could be the one.
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I'd hold your horses there CCM. Claisse is predicting Soft ground in which case you have great bets.
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CCM far be it for me to give advice but if the ground is softish you have got the most likely two imo. I'm only going to add RoR if I know the ground is going to be decent and all current reports seem to indicate rain over the next week
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That's not us agreeing is it sint?
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Stranger things have happened Roo
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Nice one lads
![]() Funnily enough, Ive just heard from someone who'd know, that Mullins is doing cartwheels and thinks HF has never, ever been better than now. I hadnt looked at the weather forecast tbh, but if it is right then I'll start feeling alot happier! |
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Did you see the new hoss on Sat btw sint?!
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No mate I didn't. Who was it, where did it run?
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The problem is that the ability of HF has never been in question it's whether Cheltenham provides the optimum conditions for HF to show his best. Admittedly soft ground would be a huge boost for him this year.
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Ran in the last at Navan mate. He's called Some Tikket. Have a look and let me know what you think
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"I am one of the few that think Hurricane Fly ran to form last festival"
I'd agree and go further by asserting that last year's CH run was HF's best form. Agree with OP re ROR, but if going significantly softer than last year (when it was fast) I'd side with Zark. Those two deserve to head the market IMO. |
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All of the confidence behind Fly is in their anticipation of soft ground. They will all go quiet if the rain doesn't arrive.
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Some opinions please chaps. I'm on HF at 5.3 and 3/1 with hills but am going to take PP up on their offer and cover Zark and more likely than not, ROR if its not soft. Zark is currently 4/1 PP - take the price now or wait til Monday/ Tuesday? Will they really push him out? Ta
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The hurricane was taken off his feet last champ hdle and was not going at all well 3out which suggest all was not right,But this year no excuses and is my banker along with my tent or yours..
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Looks really nice CCM. Did that easily. Looks quite a big sort?
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Cheers mate. Yes very big and certainly built for a fence. Weld thinks he will come on massively for the run, and better ground, so struggling not to get a bit carried away! Ummimg and aahing about taking him to Aintree at the min.
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The form looks pretty Ok too. Patanne was sent off shortish and WPM's first pick in the 100k sales bumper at the end of last season so they must think he's half decent.
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i'd be excited too! Looks real promising. Keep us posted! Aintree Bumper usually trows up decent ones.
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Not the bumper mate. The Grade 2 Novice Hurdle!
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GO away rain !!
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First time blinkers for him.
http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8551477/blinkers-for-rock-on-ruby |
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unreal
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I wonder what those blinkers do for the synthetic punters
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sonko you have mail
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Many thanks mr e
the good news i already think it is a good thing, lets hope we get the luck. ![]() ps im all over villa too |
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I'm just heading to ladbrokes now.
21/10 on Villa and best prices 6/1 on TDS ![]() |
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I'd say the blinkers are a reaction to the likely soft ground. Strange decision to be honest, as he has never come across as ungenuine.
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I'd be very concerned by this development. To this point I'd have been thinking all roads lead to Rome and what has gone before has been an irrelevance to some extent as they wanted him right for the big day. The introduction of blinkers to me presents a far different interpretation that what we have seen is what we have been getting in that they are and have been looking for something that hasn't yet been there this year but was there last. It may do the trick but I wouldn't back him on this basis.
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I suspect that this horse is now a bit of a thinker. Not for me.
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Harry Fry has never raced a horse in a visor or blinkers yet fwiw.
Didn't Hardy Eustace win this in first time blinkers? |
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Didn't Hardy Eustace win this in first time blinkers?
yes - and I think 'see more business' won a GC in them |
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Yes he did in 2004.
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Still a bizarre decision, why try to fix something that isnt broken ?
could end in tears |
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Think he hasn't been happy with the horse. He's just gonna take a chance, slap the blinkers on him and make the running and see what happens. He'll be too keen early on and run out of puff on soft up the hill imo.
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I think it is a concern right enough. In his statement he says Noel couldn't pull him up first time round when trying them at home which makes me think he might be to keen for his own good. 1st time blinkers is a negative for me.
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Harry has said he done it because he idled before getting to the last flight last season. If they plan on taking up the running 3 from home you can see the logic.
Fwiw, he has been very,very strong in the market since Doncaster. He's not drifted a notch even in light of recent rain. |