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Not sure how you work out that Bobsworth is a slight doubt.
Hes going straight to the Gold Cup now,so hes more likely than horses still to run. |
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Any idea why Bobs Worth missed the Argento bud? Henderson stated something along the lines that he 'wasn't quite right' but I haven't read anywhere to confirm his recent well-being either way... I'm sure all's fine in the Henderson camp but having an interrupted campaign and the tendency for the Henderson team to play their cards close to their chest would be a slight concern to me as a BW backer...
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Both Long Run and Bobs Worth go to probably the most grueling race of the festival without a prep, interesting...
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Just decided not to run him and to go straight to Cheltenham.No reported problem with the horse as far as i know colupaul.
Agree dont seem ideal Brooksie,but i guess his trainer knows what hes doing.Personally aint that bothered really as i aint backed either of them,and probably wont,unless prices on the day appeal. |
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Another decent performance from SC today... surprised 6s still available...
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conti is a good fast low jumper think the gold cup could be his and for a few years .
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looking good paul ! well thought out, and good luck !
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Yep ran very well I thought, I wouldn't be surprised if one of 4 or 5 would win the GC though.
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Cheers Foyles!
![]() I'm beginning to think that one of the things holding the price up on SC is that Nicholls is somewhat in the shadow of Henderson compared to previous years when both trainers were slugging it out... out of all the main protagonists SC is now the most likely winner imo (although I am somewhat biased )... |
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I thought that BW had one of those mucky trachea washes,(not 100% on that mind you) simonsig had the same thing though.
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Trachea wash, otherwise commonly known as heavy ground a month before the festival.
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Its hard to knock SC this season as he has won 3 races ..however i cannot see him beating BW at the moment.. I am not sure if Cheltenham will suit him and we know it does BW .Plus BW has beaten him in the past and i cant see any reason why that should be reversed especially at cheltenham..What are other peoples views?
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Think the prices of the 2 are about right and accurately reflect their chances.
My gut feeling is Bob would finish the stronger and more likely to relish the climb at the end. |
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Ah well, not to be...
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Hard luck.
I dont think he would have beat Bobs for what its worth. |
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will win king george and next years gold cup matey, very unlucky imo :( Not made a mistake all season, had to be that fence :(
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Yeah, I agree hard to envisage beating BW up the hill on today's evidence... was a joy to watch prior to the fall...
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I had my biggest bet of the year e/w/ Not sure he would have won but the way he kept looking BW suggets he would have placed at least. I felt sick.
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King George 2013 could be a very hot race indeed!
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I don't think there is that many horses to contest it next year. There's Long Run, maybe Simonsig and Conti but rest of noivce winners I don't really fancy.
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Will they take SC to the King George? Nicholls didn't want to run him in it this year, will Al Ferof be back by then as he shouldn't be forgotten. Was Fav for the KG before injury I think and was their preferred option for the KG. I can't recall why the reluctance as SC does seem best on a flat track.
I'd like to see SC in the Argento. As well as he jumped most of the way yesterday he did make a couple of errors, which he hadn't made all year so perhaps Cheltenham's undulations may not prove to his liking. Another run at Cheltenham would be a good idea prior to the GC imo |
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Was running a big race when he fell imo,and who knows what would have happened,and no doubt he will be a major player next season.
Personally think we have a serious Gold Cup horse in Bobsworth though,and because we dont know re SConti,i would say right now he may be the only horse that could stop Bob winning next March. We also have Al Ferof to come back,but he still has to prove he stays. The Irish horses dont stay as well as Bob,and this years novices dont look good enough. |
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agree budd this year I was adamant Bobs Worth and Conti would fight out the finish and bar the fall they would've done, there is no reason to think Silviniaco Conti doesn't stay either, he has never shown to be weak in a finish. He wasn't match fit at Newbury and they went a searching gallop and he ran away. Think that up hill finish is what he needs imo.
Think the reason behind Conti not running in the King George is because Ruby was already jocked up on Al Ferof and Nicholls didn't want him going without Ruby on his back. Quite right about this years novice chasers aswell, the only horse I could see doing ok is Simonsig but I'm not that sure upping him to 3 miles is exactly what he needs. |
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Don't suppose anyone knows what sort of price I/R Conti got to prior to falling?
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King George could be a weak race next season imo.
Bobs Worth won't run. Sir Des Champ probably wont run. Silviniaco Conti wont run. Al Ferof might run but stamina unproven. Long Run might win it again but at the moment the one I'd be interested in is Dynaste. |
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3.25 i/r according to timeform.
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As a backer of Bob's Worth, I think Silviniaco Conti could be the one to take out of the race and maybe back next year if you can get a decent price.
I don't think he would of beat Bob's Worth, however I do think he wouldn't have been far behind in 2nd. |
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Here is an entry of mine from the other Conti thread.
Posted earlier in week but have said similar concerning Conti's chances since the Haydock race with Long Run. .......................................... This (Conti) is my only real risk now First Lieutenant is deffo for Ryanair. I even covered Flemenstar on NRNB as soon as that was available with the sponsor. I actually saw that race at haydock with Long Run and it was not a performance from which you could draw a thing. Ruby did what he does and worked out the race and strolled home in what amounted to a 1 mile canter. Lack of Cheltenham form always big for me and whilst Bobsworth is my biggest winner I think SDC will outstay them all. Look at him finishing in Lexus. Can not see my mind changing before Friday. Either way, we will all know by then. ....................................... Here is my reading of the Gold Cup run, assuming Ruby was not at fault that looked to me a tired jump. With 3 to go and the hill. It just reminded me of Flemenstar in Ireland. I really think anyone thinking of following the horse should take one last look at those prep races and draw a line through them. Could say the horse did very well despite its prep rather than because of. I am not one of those throwing around abuse, this , my opinion, was based on form and I saw the Haydock race in the flesh and it was public schooling for both horses. Looking forward to next year, maybe Conti will come on for this, his first real test but I was with BW this year from early on and he will take some beating 2014. |
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|Lack of Cheltenham form always big for me and whilst Bobsworth is my biggest winner I think SDC will outstay them all.
Look at him finishing in Lexus." SDC looked a true stayer coming up that hill alright, no way in hell he'd have won the lexus the further they went the further Tidal Bay was going to win. Conti's last run was probably the fastest gold cup trial run and for a horse not fully fit he seemed to enjoy it. That wasn't a tired fall I can assure you. |
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I don't think it was a tired fall since Ruby had spent a lot of his time looking to see where Bob's Worth was. That's a sign of a jockey who thinks he has the front two covered, not one that thinks he is on a tired horse!
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I backed SDC and SC. SDC walked over the line in 2nd. SC looked to be travelling well at the time of his fall, but we'll never know what he would have found at the business end.
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I suppose we will find out next year, but in a way my main point was that those 'walk over' trials really left questions unanswered.
Looking again, for the first time, accept that it may not be a tired jump. Some race in prospect next year. Catch up then. Have spent some enjoyable time on these threads and made a few quid too. |
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well done.
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Ttt.
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