Cheltenham Festival
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Certainly not a "boat" but he won't be winning the Jewson.
Time will show he's a 2 miler. |
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I still think he's in with a reasonable shout if they get better ground
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Nothing today suggested he is a grade 1 2 miler he never travelled, I will concede that every horse is entitled to an off day though.
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Today proved that he is a battler, and I thought he stayed very well.
This time last year Bobs Worth and Finians were both turned over by inferior rivals (Invictus and Somersby), and both went on to win at the Festival. All roads lead to one race at the Festival. I think there is still some untapped potential in him, whereas imo, only Aupcharlie behind him in the betting looks like they could be something. I don't really rate anything in the betting below these two. I wouldn't take today's form literally at all, and this is coming from someone who said at the start of this thread that I doubted his ability as a Grade 1 horse. He was nowhere near fully tuned up today. |
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that was a bad performance and its running style is not very good, seems so slow and lucky today,
horse I wouldn't follow again ,did not make a favourable impression. |
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I hope tap night runs in the jewsons
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Very unimpressive and he was favourite for the Jewson. That market is all over the place. Happy with 33/1 Argocat. With the exception of Simonsig and Dynaste the novice chases are looking like three very ordinary renewals.
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flyingbolt 02 Feb 13 17:37
Certainly not a "boat" but he won't be winning the Jewson. Time will show he's a 2 miler. Agree 100% with this, plenty will say he stayed today i strongly disagree, race was set up for him and he should nt have won (TI clearly dogged it) They are obv tryin to make him into something he is nt to avoid Simonsig Game of opinions tho so we shall see  W£ill be seen to best effect wen bowling along in front over 2m imvho |
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To me he looked sluggish from the get go and seemed to be carrying an awful lot of condition. I don't see how racing over a shorter trip would of helped him travel and jump better today. Still sets the Jewson standard on his early season form and the race looks a poor renewal at this stage.
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Agree with every word of that Barnsey.
I think we all agree that he aint no superstar, but he does set the benchmark so far, and is still rightly fav. The race is lacking any depth, so he is there by default. As I said, Finians and Bobs were turned over at short odds at this time last year, and I think there is a good chunk of improvement to come from CC between now and March imo. To me, he screams stayer, as he looked beat miles from home. True that TI does duck a battle, but its not like CC was cruising and then emptied turning for home. |
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Surely Hendo should be grateful he COULD get the 1-2 in the Arkle rather than forcing the issue and getting F all in the Jewson?!
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How did he not stay? The only time during the whole race he looked like winning was at the line. He wasn't himself today but it had nothing to do with the trip. If anything it was the ground and a lack of fitness he just never traveled today. I think horses can have off days they are not machines and if having an off day is winning a G1 it's certainly not the end of the world.
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Well we have to take their word when they say..... he might have been lacking fitness,big horse that takes some work etc etc.
Not sure im convinced of that myself.But those that have backed him will cling to that. What i saw was a horse that beat Third Intention comfortably over 2m twice,and then seriously struggle to beat that horse over 2m4. Yes,its all about March,but that would have been the case in his last 2 runs as well when he was impressive. Cant blame the ground really,not much difference to his wins,maybe a tad softer,but against a horse he beats easily at 2m and a complete slow boat in Houblon,well honestly, that yesterday should have been a rout if this horse is to win at the festival. Would not back him with stolen after watching that. |
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Best lay bet of the festival for me!!!
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The form his firs three chases doesn't scream out festival winner to me, yesterdays race was a grade 1 in name only. I think trainers are constantly talking up there horses and people take what they say as gospel. He's not good enough even to place in an ankle IMO but as stated above the jewson looks a weak affair at present and he possibly may win that.
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I agree yesterdays run was disappointing compared to previous two runs this season and based on yesterdays run I would not be placing any money on him at the Festival in the Jewson. BUT whats keeping me interested in CC is that Corky Browne has consistently picked CC out as something special. So was yesterday disappointing because (1) CC was under cooked and this was just a prep for the main event (2) didnt like the sticky ground (3) didnt like 2m4f (4) Geraghy was being cautious because they were not certain he got 2m4f (5) an accumulation of (1)-(4) ?
I remember last year a number of the 7Barrows horses got beat in February and then went on to win really well at The Festival. For what it is worth I have a decent AP wager on CC for the Arkle dated July 2012 so guess what I am hoping for ! |
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Missed this live yesterday and just watched a replay. I'd forgive CC that run. He got into the bottom of the last 2 fences, or he would have won more cosily. Can't see him running in the Arkle unless Simonsig misses the gig. They'll want Geraghty up, so Jewson it's likely to be. I just can't take to the horse, don't know why.
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He did not stay but it doesn't mean he can't win providing the opposition are practically going backwards....looking at CC performance in isolation and you'd have to be horrified, I couldn't dream of backing him against better horses in the jewson...not in a million years.
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