W Mullins 5/4 for top trainer is laughable

The joker could be right.  Boston Bob and Sir Deschamps look good but I'm struggling after that

Nah, don't see him as a dual CH winner.  Do they count that stupid mares race?

if 5/4 is laughable theres value elsewhere?...obviously thieveslikeus never heard of qeuvega(4/6 and fly(evs)?!?!?!...boston bob has a great chance and surely he will get at least one more?...thats 4.i couldnt see any trainer training 5 so maybe 5/4 is a great price?.the man is a great trainer and has great owners so ill be having a bet on him..

very poor windup

he's got 3 favourites on day 1 alone (fly, quevega and uncle junior/scotsirish)

apart from those, he's only got boston bob, sir des champs, call the police, sous les cieux, midnight game, mourad, so young and quel espirit off the top of my head before you even start looking at the handicaps

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Nah, don't see him as a dual CH winner.  Do they count that stupid mares race?

u dont see HF winning the champ hurdle, have u lost ur marbles?

each to there opinions, we will have a discussion the Friday night and I will be counting my money well winding use up.

Oh gawd not you again, iq85, which part of me taking on overbacked favourites at the festival don't you understand?   Maybe HF will be one to buck the trend, if it is I while smile and move on to the next one...  If you end up with 2 short priced winners and 3 losers and I end up with one 8/1 winner and 4 losers, who do you think will be smiling most at the end?

how can you honestly see hf or quevega getting beat? on what grounds? think your clutching at straws personally!

not saying every fav but honestly tell me honest reason as to why you think either hf or quevega can be beaten?

so every 2 in the top 5 of betting win at Cheltenham? stop going on betting when do you ever see all the short price horses win at the festival?

The 5/4 is based on the odds of his runners in the market. Point is he has chances in many races to go with a hugely solid 3 on day 1.

While Hendo and Nicholls best chances seem to be in the same races as eachother, hence taking wins off eachother.

why is it a stronger mares race this time round?it won last time on the snaff by 15l?...d weld says he will run his if something happened to quevega only?..its a moral if ti shows up in same form as last yr.im big into the fly at 9/4 and 2s but im concerned he only beat peddlers last yr all out bt 1 1/2 lengths?..think hes abetter horse this year.

Don't worry about fly, he'll post a far better performance than last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpcPjqb4o0g

^*winning

If Bino turns up?  Which horse missed 2 of the last 3 festivals, remind me?

If you strip out Bino's runs after a break he has rarely been beaten and his RPRs improve with each run after a break.  He is due to top 170 again next run.

WM will prob have 3 winners on the Tuesday. Quevega is the most bomb-proof of all the favourites at the meeting. Ok something could fall in front of her and bring her down but it certainly wont happen at the last hurdle.

Thieves its maybe cause you were not on fly at 5/2 nr no bet pal! Oppose him cause he is now too short/ or he wont win?

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its a much stronger mares races this time round Laugh now we know you haven't a clue. utterly rubbish mares race, worst field ever to take her on.




not true imo.

if unnacompanied and swincombe flame turn up it would make it more competitive that last year, welds beat thousand stars this season albeit under a canny ride, sparky may would never do that.

quevega still nigh on impossible to beat eitherway and mullins is rightful fav based on the chances of his horses deemed by the market with many favs, some at odds on. if u think the fly and quevega and scotsirish will get beat then u know what to do, simple really!

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I can afford to oppose HF this year CV because I backed him last year when he was a sensible price.    Yes I did oppose Istabraq after backing him for his first win, made quite a profit the year he was beaten.  You keep backing your "solid" favourites I will find the value against them and finish way ahead of you over time.  One stat you cannot get away from is that punters regularly overback many of the favourites at the festival (particularly in the main non hcps) and there is huge value in the horses behind the favourites as a result.

Amazing level of arrogance here, who the hell are you anyway newbie? joined betfair a month or two ago ffs. Plenty on here have track records of quality betting yet you talk down to everyone as if your some punting genius.

I'm not some fool who bets on horses at 4/6 dotr. I've my pockets filled on 9/4 fly and all the 2/1 nrnb fly I wanted. I have followed this horse from day 1. NEVER has he lost me a bet. I spent nearly a week of writing last year on this forum explaining why he was different class.

I don't go round backing all these short favs, I'm not a mug. But when I know one is a cut above I get on him ap at the prices that suite me.

I've also got on quevega @ 6/4 which she traded for pretty much all of last year and all of jan this year.

Finally I've a very large stake on Big bucks to remain unbeaten this season @ 5/2 with William hill.

All of these prices are excellent imv all are very good bets and I make no case, nor do I care what level of odds on they all go off.  By all means lay BB @ 4/9 he's too short as he's never faced one like Oscar Whiskey, lay champion chase horses at odds on as plenty hit fences. Laugh at odds on Gold Cup horses. Go mad laying shorties in novice chases.

But you'd be a little bit of a wiser layer if you sometimes avoided ones that aren't worth taking on. Pick your battles. It's better to win 4/5 than 4/6.

Plenty of the regulars on here know my track record in this race having had Katchit, Punjabi and Hurricane Fly come in for me the past 4 years. I've been around since 2006 you see.


Also re Unaccompanied. She does not run if Quevega runs trainer said. Simple and clear.

He's talking about always taking on the favs, he should be a layer. Layers need betfair.