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By:
CVByrne
When: 06 Mar 12 18:20
Despite what Ruby said I don't want Noland in my book. The 80's on betfair were there for a good few mins before someone took them. He ain't winning imv.
By:
monksland
When: 06 Mar 12 19:18
I'm not saying he's going to win CVB but backing at high prices and knowing he's going to shorten based on connections can't do any harm. I have layed 15 horses and only backed 3.

My plan is to be green on everything on the day. mainly laying the high weights now as a few wont run and the shape of the race will change with lower weights being backed in.

I have backed Noland and Riguez dancer because connections said it would be targeting the race and they were big prices, nearly certain to contract.


There will be a big shake up tomorrow with the confirmation stage and hopefully I can take advantage of a few over reactions
By:
PeddlersCross
When: 06 Mar 12 20:27
Does Mossley show up for this? Got a chance on his hurdles form.
By:
Meddler
When: 06 Mar 12 23:26
Never mind hurdles form, if Join Togethers rating is accurate Mossley looks very well weighted imo.
By:
Glossy
When: 07 Mar 12 00:41
Billie Magern looks a good e/w bet to me at 33/1 NRNB. Has a very respectable record at Cheltenham and goes off only 1 lb higher than Lie Forrit.

Difficult to argue with his 3rd place behind The Giant Bolster and Poquelin (and finishing ahead of the recent winner Aerial) on Festival Trials Day. Also a more than respectable 5th in the Paddy Power along with a Chelt Grade 2 win in October stands him in good stead.

Twiston-Davies usually comes up with a surprise winner or 2 at the Festival; could this be it?
By:
Ming_the_Merciless
When: 07 Mar 12 05:42
Billie Magern was entered in the Paddy Power where NTDavies usually puts his better/improving chasers so you have a point Glossy. As the stable has been out of form until recently he may not have shown his best form yet.... I would say his handicap mark was about right rather than lenient though.
By:
liam the lips
When: 07 Mar 12 12:02
Anyone got the 5 day decs yet ?
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 12:04
41 Confirmed of the 84 (BUT ONLY 24 Allowed !)
By:
sintonian
When: 07 Mar 12 12:15
Evan Williams said just now on ATR he will make a decisions on whether Cappa Bleu runs at the weekend. Sounded to me like they might run tbh, 4 weeks between races this year.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 12:29
Sorted the first 24 (BUT where do the other 17 go ?)
By:
sintonian
When: 07 Mar 12 12:31
Has this race provided the winner or placed horses of the Grand National in the past or am I mixing it up with something else?

IF Cappa Bleu does run, and run well, he is likely to be put up by the handicapper but obviously wont be for the GN.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 12:52
BARRY Wink
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 07 Mar 12 12:53
Lieforrit out. Thank god for NRNB!
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 13:00
BJG

Yon miised out on these 41 Whoops
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 13:00
BJG

Yon missed out on these 41 Whoops
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 13:00
BJG

You missed out on these 41 Whoops
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 13:01
ffs Laugh
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 13:20
Riguez Dancer 8.g Ferdy Murphy 9st 7lb to be riden by Lucy Alexander(5)
By:
CVByrne
When: 07 Mar 12 13:42
Tullamore Dew fits all the treds, 143 rated and placed at last years festival.
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 07 Mar 12 13:54
The only one's that fit the trends mentioned in my preview above are:

Cappa Bleu, Hector's Choice, Tullamore Dew, Baile Anrai, Alfie Sherrin and Magnanimity.

Not particularly taken by any of them to be honest. Tullamore Dew should be thereabouts and is certainly one for the placepot, but struggle to see him being handicapped well enough for win a race of this nature.

It's very dull but I think Hold on Julio is by far the most likely winner if he's over his recent troubles. The only stat he fails on is that he hasn't placed in a Class 1, however, the race he took easily last time could easily have been a Listed Handicap with the top weight being Neptune Collonges off 159.
By:
carvillshill
When: 07 Mar 12 13:55
Think Billie Magern needs a small field Glossy. Magnanimity on my radar, despite a slightly higher than ideal weight/rating.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 14:31
Quantitativeeasing (IRE) 7.g    Nicky Henderson    11st 7lb   
Time For Rupert (IRE) 8.g    Paul Webber    11st 5lb   
Walkon (FR) 7.g                    Alan King    11st 3lb   
Cannington Brook (IRE) 8.g    Colin Tizzard    11st 2lb   
Noland 11.g                    Paul Nicholls    11st 0lb   
Cappa Bleu (IRE) 10.g            Evan Williams    10st 13lb   
Hector's Choice (FR) 8.g    Richard Lee    10st 13lb   
Hold On Julio (IRE) 9.g            Alan King    10st 11lb........Robert Thornton
Mon Mome (FR) 12.g            Venetia Williams10st 11lb   
Consigliere (FR) 9.g            David Pipe    10st 11lb   
Zarrafakt (IRE) 8.g            Emma Lavelle    10st 11lb   
Our Mick 6.g                    Donald McCain    10st 10lb........Jason Maguire
Arbor Supreme (IRE) 10.g    Jonjo O'Neill    10st 10lb   
Magnanimity (IRE) 8.g            D. T. Hughes, Ireland    10st 10lb   
Matuhi 9.g                    David Pipe    10st 10lb   
Tullamore Dew (IRE) 10.g    Nick Gifford    10st 9lb   
Divers (FR) 8.g                    Ferdy Murphy    10st 8lb   
Mossley (IRE) 6.g            Nicky Henderson    10st 8lb   
Tharawaat (IRE) 7.g            Gordon Elliott, Ireland    10st 7lb   
Fruity O'Rooney 9.g            Gary Moore    10st 6lb   
The Package 9.g                    David Pipe    10st 5lb   
Billie Magern 8.g            Nigel Twiston-Davies    10st 5lb   
Shakervilz (FR) 9.g            W. P. Mullins, Ireland    10st 5lb   
Leanne (IRE) 10.m            W. Harney, Ireland    10st 5lb   
Blenheim Brook (IRE) 7.g    Lucinda Russell    10st 4lb   
Mount Oscar (IRE) 13.g            Colin Tizzard    10st 1lb   
Summery Justice (IRE) 8.g    Venetia Williams10st 0lb   
Charingworth (IRE) 9.g            Ferdy Murphy    9st 13lb   
Baile Anrai (IRE) 8.g            Ian Williams    9st 13lb   
Golden Chieftain (IRE) 7.g    Colin Tizzard    9st 12lb   
Major Malarkey (IRE) 9.g    Nigel Twiston-Davies    9st 9lb   
Alfie Sherrin 9.g            Jonjo O'Neill    9st 8lb   
Bottman (IRE) 7.g            Tim Vaughan    9st 7lb   
Riguez Dancer 8.g            Ferdy Murphy    9st 7lb..........Lucy Alexander(5)
Definite Dawn (IRE) 8.g            Tim Vaughan    9st 5lb   
Pentiffic (NZ) 9.g            Venetia Williams9st 4lb   
Marescsou (FR) 7.g            Venetia Williams9st 3lb   
Free World (IRE) 10.g            Warren Greatrex    9st 3lb   
Runshan (IRE) 12.g            David Bridgwater9st 1lb   
Ballyvesey (IRE) 7.g            Peter Bowen    8st 12lb   
Le Burf (FR) 11.g            Giles Smyly    8st 5lb
By:
roobuck
When: 07 Mar 12 16:00
EC - didn't you say that Fruity O'Rooney also met your trends and he is still in?

Obviously by the process of elimination, he must be the winner  Cool
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 07 Mar 12 16:04
Oh yeah - my bad... Bad news... I don't like him either Crazy
By:
roobuck
When: 07 Mar 12 16:22
That is bad news........for you obviously  Laugh
By:
stevo1
When: 07 Mar 12 17:02
Go on Fruity on at 33s nr no bet,with Tullamore and Julia at 8s must get a return? LOl!
By:
stevo1
When: 07 Mar 12 17:02
Julio
By:
Glossy
When: 07 Mar 12 18:31
Why do you say that carvishill? Finished 5/20 in the Paddy Power and a decent 8/24 in the Kim Muir last year, carrying 11-9.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 07 Mar 12 20:02
Hold On Julio (6) , Quantitativeeasing (7) , The Package (8) , Tullamore Dew (14) , Baile Anrai (16) , Time For Rupert (16) , Zarrafakt (16) , Cappa Bleu (20) , Magnanimity (20) , Our Mick (20) , Walkon (20) , Blenheim Brook (25) , Cannington Brook (25) , Divers (25) , Fruity ORooney (25) , Hectors Choice (25) , Leanne (25) , Mossley (25) , Arbor Supreme (33) , Billie Magern (33)  - Others  33 or more
By:
monksland
When: 07 Mar 12 20:08
Cant see why people backing riguez dancer on here at 50 when he's 50s NRNB at ladb's. security if he doesn't run and the place price
By:
marychain1
When: 07 Mar 12 20:36
Cant find any angle in here. Been looking at Golden Chieftan. I must be desperate.
By:
nocturnal
When: 07 Mar 12 22:52
Magnanimity as stated meets most of the trends,lightly raced this season hopefully to protect what looks like a workable mark.His RSA form reads well in the context of this race.The pilot is definately a worry should mr Russell be aboard!
By:
Glossy
When: 07 Mar 12 23:14
Not sure the form of last year's RSA has worked out - looks quite a poor renewal with 2 of the 3 horses finishing ahead of Magnanimity being disappointing (Bostons Angel & Wayward Prince) and the other not seen since (Jessies Dream).

Wouldn't use that race as much of a yardstick IMO.
By:
nocturnal
When: 07 Mar 12 23:35
Fair point Glossy and its well documented how that race can take its toll on novices.On the plus side his last run was more encouraging,giving way in the home straight in a grade 2.Watching replays of last year he travelled well on likely smilar ground to next week,and I hope that might be the key to him.

Age wise at 8 he may have a little improvement,and not too many miles on the clock.Should he be 20/1?  I think his overall form,and the fact he ran well at last years fetival in a grade1 entitle him to run well.
By:
Glossy
When: 07 Mar 12 23:46
Hope he runs well for you mate.
By:
Rob
When: 07 Mar 12 23:53
does anyone know if time for rupert is an intended runner? I think a rating of 153 is generous, he could still be a 165 horse,I'm struggling to pick holes in any of his form and he certainly likes the course
By:
JOCI Club
When: 07 Mar 12 23:59
Have lost faith in him. Let me down last year, was one of my more sizeable wagers.

Probably romp home now!
By:
Rob
When: 08 Mar 12 00:02
but is he really 2 stone behind the best in training, last year had a problem but still ran acceptably well
By:
judorick
When: 08 Mar 12 00:03
nah he's a disappointing, over rated under achiever whose best victory remains a Listed handicap hurdle at Aintree off 138 or something, don't like the horse even if he is theoretically well handicapped
By:
magic carpet
When: 08 Mar 12 00:16
When u consider he was only 3 1/2 lengths behind Weird Al(now rated 164) who is being talked of by many as a live Gold Cup contender on his seasonal reapperance and has also beat The Giant Bolster on the bridal(whos now rated 160)on his penultimate run then 153 gives him a serious chance.The problem i have with him is that sandwiched in between his two eyecatching runs are two below par efforts albeit both of which were in grade one and grade two company.He has the stat of no winner being rated over 143 in recent times to overcome also but his current price of around 16-1 has a bit of juice in it on the balance IMHO
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