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SoYouThink
22 Feb 12 20:18
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Dreadful run on Saturday granted but think Nicholls figure for February is now something like 1/33 so exuse him that run.

Just looking at the 14 runners for the Champions Chase, must be a chance we'll end up with a figure closer to half that. The following have alternative (more likely) engagements:

Peddlars Cross - Arkle
Somersby - Ryanair
Realt Dubh - Ryanair

Blazing Tempo and Wishful Thinking possibly going for Ryanair.

Hold Fast is out.

Nacarat?

I'm So Lucky and I'msingingtheblues are not good enough/more likely to run off big weights in the Grand Annual.

Kauto Stone e/w at 33.1 has to be a bit of value.

As far as I can see, the only definite runners at this stage will be Sizing Europe, Big Zeb, Gauvain and Finian's Rainbow. Any of those engaged in the Ryanair who you fancy to run here instead must represent e/w value given how it'll cut up. I like Kauto Stone the most but will he run here? Thoughts?
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Report SoYouThink February 22, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
Mistake in title. Kauto Stone obviously. Gauvain also a Ryanair possible.

So three confirmed runners (top 3 in betting), a couple of rags and several with this as an alternative to Ryanair.

Has to be e/w value here.
Report Giddy February 22, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
Personaly I dont think a 12 year old will have the speed for this
Report Giddy February 22, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
Sorry SYT! Couldnt resist that.I wouldnt be rushing to back any of Nicholls horses at the moment until
there are some positve noises from the stable and proof, before the festival that there are running well
Report NickB February 22, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
If you think there's ew value to be had, which of the top 3 in the market do you reckon will be unplaced? Unfortunately I think the top 3 in the betting will probably be the first 3 home...
Report SoYouThink February 22, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
Of the top 3, I think Finian's Rainbow represents the most value.

As I read on the other thread not a race to be taking short prices in:

Moscow Flyer, Kauto Star and Well Chief were 5/6F, 2/1F and 1/1F respectively and all failed to complete.
Report sintonian February 22, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
For starters I cant see Kauto Stone reversing form with SE based on there tingle creek run so your effectively playing for 2 places.

Secondly he just returned from Ascot with a possible cough so isn't likely to run?

Blazing Tempo beat Noble Prince over 2 miles last time out so i'd not rule her out running in this.
Report SoYouThink February 22, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
I can't say I think any of the top 3 will be unplaced or that I think Kauto Stone will be able to finish ahead of Sizing Europe.

But looking at the entries, I can forecast a small field. Probably the top 3 in the betting, 2 rags and 1/2 defectors from the Ryanair.

Kauto Stone probably looks more a two miler than a lot of the rest of them. 33/1 in a race where favourites come to grief, and  mistakes are aplenty, must be a good bet in my opinion.

Although, I'd like to know if he genuinely will go for the race.
Report NickB February 22, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
Surely she wouldn't have the pace Sint? Totally different going (as I recall) and different class of opposition?
Report sintonian February 22, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
Not saying she will win or place Nick, just that she might run in the race. She is again entered over 2 miles this weekend at Fairyhouse.

SYT -as far as I am aware PFN has said a few time KS would go for the Ryanair .. contact him on twitter mate, usually replys.
Report sintonian February 22, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
And Wishful Thinking is going for this race, already confirmed by Hobbs.
Report NickB February 22, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
Sorry for coming across as difficult gents, but this is about the only race in the festival where I do think the top 3 are the first 3, so can't really see the point in looking for an ew alternative - and this is coming from someone who's always looking for a 20-1 winner at Chelt!
Report buddeliea February 22, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
i do think WT will run well in the QM,whether that geats him in the first 3 i aint sure,but i do expect a lot better from him than we have seen so far this season.
Report buddeliea February 22, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
as for kauto stone,he will be in ryanair according to his trainer.
Report Martin pipe returns February 22, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
Big 3 + Wishfull Thinking are the only 4 confirmed as runners as far as I know. Kauto Stone only runs here if soft.
Like the Arkle it's cutting up .

Time to load up on some dirty each way doubles.
Report Fallen Angel February 22, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
I saw this and thought someone might be making a case for Kauto star in the champion chase Grin its a poor field this year he could easily run into a place at a minimum before winning the gold cup again Love
Report strontium February 22, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
LOL. It would be a nice piece of work for the old boy. I'd fancy him to finish 2nd.
Report Fallen Angel February 22, 2012 9:58 PM GMT
What an awesome sight that would be Cool
Report GoldCupWinner February 22, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
He's won a tingle creek so why not the Champion Chase? :D Not even the great Moscow could win it at 12 though :-(
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