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Ibrahima Sonko
18 Jan 12 17:47
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Anyone know about the welfare of this horse ?

Top class horse imo.
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Report Masterminded January 18, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
I agree. I'm sure he should be out soon but I have no idea
Report wellchief January 18, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
Agree Ibrahima.

I remember your Sprinter Sacre thread from last year, before he'd had a run over hurdles.  Let's hope your judgement is as good this year and can improve 2 more places Wink

To be honest, its the people from this forum who have put me on to Mono Man (and have now backed him), so if he loses I owe you all a kick in the nuts LaughLaugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 18, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
I keep searching him on the entries, something tells me he has been put away or nicky thinks he is a chaser.

But after his run in one of the hottest races over 2 miles away from ireland i was blown away even thou i backed its a gimme.

Then again i think it was the same race at newbury where Kings Theatre finished 2nd and he paid its way (for me anyway) Cool

Still have a feeling the way Mono Man took off after that mistake at the last makes me think he is special. oh and the 4k bets recorded on Mono man that day.
Report stevo1 January 19, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
On him as well had entries xmas period none taken, Henderson likes holding them back but like Spirit Son where nothing mentioned for months may have had problems? Notice to Sint? lol!
His trainer will be moaning like **** if we get some bad weather again and cant get run in etc etc, like 2 seasons ago.
Report the Inca January 20, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
me thinks neptune
Report the Inca January 20, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
me thinks neptune
Report stevo1 January 21, 2012 1:58 AM GMT
Bollox and Spirit Son, not looking good
Report the Inca January 21, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
read barrys blog on atr after its last run.  I will bet which ever race in runs in.  bet bobs worth in wrong one last year, so more careful this year.
Report strontium January 21, 2012 10:17 PM GMT
Barry's blog is somewhat lacking in credibility at the mo.
Report R Carver January 21, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
Why so Stront? You surely dont believe he wrote what he wrote in the knowledge that SS had this problem?
Report festivalfanatic January 21, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
2 mile 5 furlong novice hurdle at Cheltenham next Saturday that Bob's Worth won last season?
Report strontium January 21, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
No RC, I was being facetious and I have the utmost respect for Barry Geraghty. However, I do remember last year going to the Sandown Festival preview evening and listening to Hendo talk up Binocular in strong terms only for him to be withdrawn the next morning. Maybe I'm just getting cynical as I age.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 21, 2012 10:25 PM GMT
that would be nice as i am going that day.
Report Masterminded January 21, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
Is he really a stayer? Thought he traveled like a horse with plenty of speed on his hurdles bow & looked pretty damn quick in his bumpers.
Report festivalfanatic January 21, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
I don't know mate. Clutching at straws!
Report R Carver January 21, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
Hi Stront - I am getting equally cynical, no worries! The Binocular situation was shocking and I do not think the trainer has handled the SS situation very well.
Report R Carver January 21, 2012 10:50 PM GMT
FF - he could go to that race, though I wonder whether Broadback Bob or SImonsig may be more likely to be entered given they have already been tried over further?  I think Mono would stay and the trainer did run General Miller in Saturday's race on the back of just one run but i suspect 2 may be the trip at the moment.

I am guessing but other possible races would be those at Fos Las (4th) given its similarity to Newbury and Sprinter Sacre went there last yr, Newbury (11th) given he has run there, Exeter (12th, Spirit Son last yr), Sandown 17th, Ascot 18th (track form and Sprinter ran last yr), Kempton 25th.
Report the Inca January 21, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
just took the 33/1 with pp for supreme - way to big.  can whoever layed spirtit son let us know how this thing is keeping
Report stevo1 January 22, 2012 5:48 AM GMT
This stable has funny smell coming from it bullshit
Report the Inca January 24, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
any update?
Report dj876 January 24, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
BroadbackBob and master of the game-Henderson's only entries for the novice hurdle at chelt. on saturday.Geraghty already declared for Bob.
Report R Carver January 25, 2012 8:13 AM GMT
Not worried by lack of entries thus far, but alarming drift for the supreme. Neptune bound maybe?
Report stevo1 January 25, 2012 11:03 AM GMT
Broadbackbob the one for Neptune amongst others, Simonsig gone quiet on this one as well re updates.
Report stevo1 January 26, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
No news /entries on Mono Man drifting in Supreme, not looking good.
Report R Carver January 26, 2012 1:23 PM GMT
75s. Cannot be right.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 26, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
Sad
Report Masterminded January 26, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
Not a good sign but It's a Gimme out to 75's.. Someone taking a view? Like I say not a positive but still have a bit of hope.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan February 2, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
Ib,
Presume you've seen his Supreme & Neptune entries
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 2, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
Just have, promising news. Maybe the horse is so good that nicky is confident he will need just one more run in feb.
Report the Inca February 2, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
nicky has 12 in supremes ffs - fingers crossed for a run
Report R Carver February 3, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
Ibrahima - I think Oscar ran on the back of just 2 hurdle runs (both wins) - Newbury in December and Sandown in Feb (Oscar also won a bumper in Novemvbr).
Report stevo1 February 3, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
Lets hope so been a bit of a forgotten horse since xmas last entries,needs to win soon with weather not good etc.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 3, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
Cheers RC, will tkae a close look at the decs after the 14th of feb.
Report R Carver February 6, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
Just seen on the excellent Mark Howard website news that Mono Man was found to be lame after his debut hurdles run and a suggestion that a return to action is imminent. Phew. Plenty of options left, ones the trainer has exploited before.
Report stevo1 February 6, 2012 7:08 PM GMT
Lets hope weather improves or will run out of time.
Report wellchief February 6, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
One horse I am interested in, who ties in with Mono Man is OSCAR DARA, formerly with Alan Flemming and now with Nicky Henderson.

He is due to run at exeter next week and has an entry in the Neptune, apparantly he's been working well on the gallops.

Url below is from the owners blog who details the injury record the horse has had, and would love to see this horse run well at Cheltenham.

http://www.narrowing-the-field.co.uk/1189/owners-insight-%E2%80%93-hurrying-up-to-date/
Report R Carver February 6, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
Ran great at Ascot I thought, but Mono a shade better certainly IMO.
Report Masterminded February 6, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
Thanks RC made me feel a lot more confident. I thought there must have been a little problem somewhere.
Report R Carver February 14, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
100-1. Game up presumably.
Report R Carver February 14, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
Sad
Report Masterminded February 14, 2012 6:08 PM GMT
Yep I've pretty much given up hope. I thought he may have been entered at Newbury or Ascot but nothing. He's not going to go straight for the Supreme I wouldn't have thought. I hope he's back soon as horses like him can get lost if they miss large parts of their novice year. Of course he hasn't won over hurdles & could be saved for next year but who know's.
Report R Carver February 14, 2012 6:17 PM GMT
I agree with all that MM. A real pity. I never quite trust that horses who miss a yr (obviously he has not quite missed a yr) will come back, but lets hope so.
Report stevo1 February 15, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
Nice of Mr Henderson to update everyone so quickly as usual! Pretty sure wont be in entries later today?
Report R Carver February 16, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
Mono Man entered at Doncaster next week surprisingly. I suspect it is too late to make it to the Supreme though Oscar Whisky had his Supreme prep on 19 Feb following 1 prior hurdle run (in December, which he won).
Report wellchief February 16, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
Good spot RC.

I see his price has come back in abit on the back of that for the Supreme and the Neptune.  Had a small saver on the Neptune as well last week when his price got stupidly big.

Its good to know he's still alive anyway Happy
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 16, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
At least it proves he is ok and there is still a small chance he may make it to cheltenham
Report Masterminded February 16, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
Agree gd news. I guess if he ran well Weds he could still go.
Report festivalfanatic February 16, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
Might have a nibble at the Supreme before Wednesday. Travels like a proper 2 mile horse to me.
Report stevo1 February 17, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
Bit close to Cheltenham but as stated at least the beast is alive.
Report R Carver February 17, 2012 3:18 PM GMT
Further entries next week over 2 and further. Looks like a run is imminent.
Report Rod Tidwell February 17, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
maybe Barry favouring Neptune for Simonsig because he knows he cant beat this oneGrin
Report festivalfanatic February 19, 2012 9:48 AM GMT
Needs to run this coming week and have an easy race if he is to line up in the Supreme. Looks like Donny Wednesday or Sandown/Warwick Friday. If he is declared for one of them, I'll have a litle bit for the Supreme before he runs.
Report Target Man February 19, 2012 10:28 AM GMT
Geraghty only jocked up for Huntingdon on Thursday. Sidney Banks Hurdle Lstd over 2m4f. Henderson's only possible runner in race (All The Aces-ran Newbury Fri17th).
Report festivalfanatic February 19, 2012 10:31 AM GMT
Thanks TM

Missed that! Plot thickens then for Hendo and his novice hurdlers. I thought he would be campaigned at 2 miles.
Report wellchief February 20, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
Odds on here strongly suggest the Neptune is the preferred target.

If Mono, Simonsig, Fingal and Boston all turn up, it's looking like one hell of a race.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 20, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
Entered all over the place this week, which for me is a positive.

As either they could keep him as a novice for next season or they have bigger plans, that may include later festivals but its hopeful.
Report biffarama February 20, 2012 10:55 PM GMT
Wellchief - youve missed the winner - Monksland.
Report wellchief February 21, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
It looks like he will run in the 3:30 at Huntingdon on Thursday over 2m4f (well its the only one of his entries with Barry as a confirmed jockey).

About 95 on here for the Supreme and 25 for the Neptune (but you can still get 40's with the bookies)

Just found this blog on the RP bloodstock site (4th Feb 2012)

It is hard to select one horse from the Seven Barrows academy but the lightly raced Mono Man has the potential and ability needed to win this event.

The winner of two bumpers last season,Mono Man appeared to be outpaced when a staying-on third behind the useful pair It’s A Gimme and Colour Squadron at Newbury on his only start this term. A step up in trip at Cheltenham should benefit – his sire Old Vic has supplied four festival winners in the last nine years, all coming over a minimum distance of 2m5f.

Selection: Fingal Bay

Alternative: Mono Man (each-way)
Report wellchief February 22, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
All the 40's now gone for the Neptune, but 33 still freely available for Supreme backers who retain the faith
Report roobuck February 22, 2012 12:32 PM GMT
scratched from Supreme
Report Stake & Chips February 22, 2012 12:32 PM GMT
Scratched from the Supreme Cry
Report johnlfc1234 February 22, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
where can the revised racecards be found ?
Report Alvarado February 22, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
not declared for huntingdon either tommorow only entry left at sandown over 2m which seems strange now hes out of the supreme
Report stevo1 February 22, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
Henderson is a dickhead of the highest order nap!
Report thieveslikeus February 22, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
Excellent that you can say dickhead on here but cannot name the first 2 classics of the season.  Laugh
Report BJG February 22, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
guineas
Report thieveslikeus February 22, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
They must have seen sense and changed it. Thank goodness for that, couldn't have got used to saying the 21,000 shillings and 42,000 shillings...
Report Masterminded February 22, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
He's been scratched? Cry
Report roobuck February 22, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
Alvarado - also in a 2m3f race at Warwick on Friday
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 23, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
Starting to dislike Sir Henderson.

AP bets on Mono Man for the surpreme and Grandouet for the champion

Sad
Report wellchief February 23, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
Withdrawn from the Warwick race tomorrow now and not entered into anything.

Had enough of this sh!te.  Layed off my Neptune bet and will wait for any entries.

Highly unlikely he will be seen at Cheltenham imo.  Think they'll wait for Aintree or might start again and have a proper novice campaign next year.
Report Harvey2Face March 5, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
Have I missed something last couple of days - why does someone want to back him for the Neptune?  Didn't think he was running.
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 21, 2012 9:59 AM BST
Right, all aboard the train that pays out handsomely in march.

We all know that on one run that this horse is at least a 135 horse, given that Nicky only has his novices half fit first time out this horse is special.

choo choo
Report festivalfanatic July 23, 2012 9:04 AM BST
Half fit or not IS yard was devastated that he didn't win on his hurdles debut at Newbury. He's clearly very talented but just as clearly fragile. A 6yo who's only been seen in public 3 times? Not one for me unless he goes to the Festival with at least 2 and possibly 3 successful runs under his belt.
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 26, 2012 8:51 PM BST
I do remember a 4k bet a newbury that day on mm, i was lucky as i backed It's a gimme that day as he was race fresh. He only won because mm made a hash of the last.
Report shockster July 27, 2012 11:02 AM BST
I was at Newbury for the race above and actually backed Colour Squadron 2nd.  However, I thought the 4th ran well Broomfield, but has not been out since.  Anybody got any info?
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 27, 2012 8:38 PM BST
He did catch my eye too, so did the morrison horse who should had been fined.
Report R Carver August 14, 2012 11:30 AM BST
Ibrahima, I am with you again this yr on this one, i think he is top class potentially. His bumper runs were mustard and I agree he had excuses at Newbury. I think he surely would have improved for the run, made an awful error at the last against horses who had had a run and were therefore likely to be fitter (and more experienced in Its a Gimme). I think Colour Squadron and Its a Gimme were badly campaigned thereafter.

I am not concerned massively about his few races so far. He may be fragile but I am not sure the indications are that he is overly-so. He ran in January having just turned 5 (lots of NH horses do not run in a bumper til 5), then ran a few weeks later before being put away(same owners had ERicht for the big bumpers, trainer is known for his aversion to the big festival bumpers anyway). He then returned in Newbury (a race he has targetted with his best novices over the yrs) and missed the rest of the yr. Maybe not ideal but maybe not the end of the world - Finians Rainbow made his bumper debut aged 6 (albeit missing a debut at 5) and his hurdles debut at 6 at the same November Newbury meeting.

More tricky for me is how hard it is to predict which way the trainer will send his horses at the Festival. We know how hard this had been to predict in the past. Being an Old Vic out of Quadrennial, high class with some toe, but looking like he has some stamina in all 3 races (always ridden prominent and delivered early, stayed on well each time, perhaps most obviously in his last race) I would think with another yr on his back he may want more than the minimum. Obviously a long, long way off, and speculative only, the trainer may run 10 in the Supreme but all things being equal at this stage he looks to me to have a couple who have more obvious speed.
Report R Carver August 14, 2012 11:32 AM BST
* re Finians, should read 'missing an entry'.
Report Masterminded August 15, 2012 6:03 PM BST
Mono Man is clearly a horse with a lot of potential but it has to be said I wouldn't be in a rush to backing him antepost unless you know the well being of the horse first hand. He has obviously had plenty of problems.
Report wellchief August 15, 2012 6:43 PM BST
After last year's Simonsig, Fingal Bay and Boston Bob "which race will they run in saga", I'll be keeping my money in my pocket unless I see one at a huge price.
Report Masterminded September 12, 2012 1:55 PM BST
Not even mentioned in Mark Howard's book in the Hendo stable. He's either still injured or not there anymore :(
Report Masterminded September 12, 2012 2:08 PM BST
But then again neither is Spirit Son so make of that what you will!
Report sintonian September 12, 2012 9:32 PM BST
Basically just have to keep checking their entries to see if any pop up.
Report stevo1 September 13, 2012 7:34 PM BST
Trainer is a fickin joke re info how many horses injured or not? Becoming boring now about time chemical was put in place!! Untouchable ?
Report R Carver September 16, 2012 9:51 PM BST
Stevo - what on earth? Vis-a-vis Mono Man, how many other horses are ommitted form the Howard book? Many I would say. Why on earth would /should he be giving updates at this stage? Many horses would not even be back yet or only just returning. You may have complaints about other horses with this trainer, but the idea that he is misbehaving at this stage with this horse is IMO just wrong.
Report BJG September 16, 2012 10:20 PM BST
No mention at Hendos open day Plain
Report wellchief January 12, 2013 3:00 PM GMT

wellchief 06 Feb 12 19:41 Joined: 17 Dec 09 | Topic/replies: 1,176 | Blogger: wellchief's blog
One horse I am interested in, who ties in with Mono Man is OSCAR DARA, formerly with Alan Flemming and now with Nicky Henderson.

He is due to run at exeter next week and has an entry in the Neptune, apparantly he's been working well on the gallops.

Url below is from the owners blog who details the injury record the horse has had, and would love to see this horse run well at Cheltenham.

http://www.narrowing-the-field.co.uk/1189/owners-insight-%E2%80%93-hurrying-up-to-date/


I don't care if it's aftertiming, but having read the blog online from Oscara Dara's owners in the link above almost a year ago, I've always kept an eye out for him, and delighted for his connections today, and had a few little quid on myself.

Mono Man beat him quite comfortably, so would be great to see him back on the track.
Report R Carver January 14, 2013 2:52 PM GMT
No question Well Chief - hard to follow this, at my age, is the suggestion that Mono Man will return at Exeter? They do race on 23.01.2013 and they have 2 novice hurdles (well a novice and a maiden).
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2013 9:19 PM GMT
Entered in the supreme

509/1 looking tasty Cool
Report festivalfanatic February 1, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
Getting this fragile horse to Cheltenham would be an achievement. To win a race would be Hendo's training performance of all time.
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 28, 2013 9:35 PM GMT
2014 might just be his year.

Slowly turning into Monsignor
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