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Cheltenham Festival
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toms kween muvva champion chase pick.
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SE is the best 2m around denman you're right,but things can happen.
I have WT at 20's,and will back SE at some point,i hope to have the winner if i do that.BZ will be a danger,dont fancy FR at all. Nothing else will get close. IMHO of course!! |
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im always rite budd!
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I have backed FR at 6s today along with WT at 20s, will be leaving SE till nearer the day and if he is shorter than 6/4 i will be very disappointed! I cannot have BZ, dangerous to say i know but he is 11 now and although won lto easily enough, visually he didn't impress me as i think he ought to have! Of the others, well am on the fence, as i feel as we all do this race will cut up big time and the time is now to get them bets on me feels!
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No offers that it is
WISHFUL THINKING probably advised price will be 20/1 of which anyone near the advised firms shops will and can get on for a period of 30 minutes prior to store opening so there be no moaning!  |
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ew 1/4 odds woloc its the final lineup that the bookies pay out on a/p also i've never known it be any different
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Decalec I'm afraid you are simply wrong.
Look at oddschecker for example at the VC chase on Saturday. At the bottom each bookies AP terms for the race are listed and interestingly VC are 1/4 odds 1st 3 for their race. If you think for example that WT is going to pitch up for this race and you like the horse, 13/2 with them is top price and best terms. Terms will switch when a book changes to NRNB though with the above example as they are the sponsor they may be offering those terms, I haven't checked |
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DECALEC, place terms for ap betting are set out in that particular races rules for each market/event all in run or not. Each firm is different in respect to whether they offer whatever place terms etc, e.g on Saturday in the VC chase there are more than 8 entered, some firms are offering the 1/5th 123 and others are offering 1/4 123. Obviously those firms offering the 1/4 have the better value. But come final decs stage, there may either only be 6 or 7 left in the field, or there maybe the dead 8 at final decs only for one to be pulled out as a non runner on the morning of the race! But those who backed ap before the final decs will sit pretty in the knowledge they will get paid out to 3rd at 1/4, those that waited till after final decs will not.
It is the same with all antepost e/way betting, i.e in handicaps where there is expected to be more than 16 runners the e/way terms will be 1/4 1234, quite often on the day of race there is only 14 or 15 taking part, those that partake in having a bet antepost (or before final decs) are safe in the knowledge that they will be paid out up to 4th place, those that waited i am afraid will not! Each way betting antepost has its advantages! The value is out there, the hard part, is finding it! I hope this clears things up some what for you! |
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Not having read the Post this morning yet, I assume Tom has opted for Wishful Thinking, as is now only 12s. Correct???
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correct willie 20s at 365 advised !
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Decalec, if you have been losing place terms on ante post bets I'm afraid you've been getting shafted by the bookies for some time
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20/1 now with bet 3.6.5 online
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Tom was only ever going to select WT after Noble Prince & CC were taken out.
Getting quite easy to predict his slections isn;t it.. |
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like oscars well. He is picking a horse whose form looks well short of the mark this season. Can't have either uncle Tom but I do respect him so will be watching with interest.
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Agree Howdi, but this was a tough race for a "Pricewise" pick!
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BTW what's he covering next week?
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I wouldn't discount Big Zeb
To think this horse was once a bit of a rouge with his falls. Picture of consistence these days. |
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You can almost predict tom's picks by the price imo.
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Had virtually no choice in this one.
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agree it was the one horse if you look back at last year you could make a case for at the price.
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yep,theres 4 horses realistically can win the race,the other 3 are too short for him.
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there is four budd alfie ferof too
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Price wise so far Cheltenham 2012.
Captain Chris Gold Cup - all wins so far over 2m except 3 runner novice ch over 2.5 when a 2/5 chance. Gold Cup 3m2.5f????? Oscars Well - Champ Hurdle - Never won a 2m race all wins on heavy????? Wishfull Thinking - QM over 2m. Never won a 2m race even over hurdles????? Lost the plot if you ask me. |
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I personally cant have either of those points as negatives for OW though Shockster. Ran a blinder in the Neptune last year on what is likely to the be the same ground, so thats a non issue. Also showed bags of speed in that race and if anything didnt quite get home. The CH looks tailor made for him to me.
Cant have the other two personally. |
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cheers Howdi
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pleasure pla love to help where I can
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shockster Joined: 26 Oct 05
Replies: 202 17 Jan 12 13:28 Price wise so far Cheltenham 2012. Captain Chris Gold Cup - all wins so far over 2m except 3 runner novice ch over 2.5 when a 2/5 chance. Gold Cup 3m2.5f????? Oscars Well - Champ Hurdle - Never won a 2m race all wins on heavy????? Wishfull Thinking - QM over 2m. Never won a 2m race even over hurdles????? Lost the plot if you ask me. couldn't agree more id confidently take evens all are unplaced |
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That's a brave bet Howdi. I agree they all look likle unlikely winners, but I can see WT being the 4th best horse in a very small field QMCC, so it wouldn't take much for him to place, and Captain Chris did just come 3rd in a King George....
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WELLCHIEF thats never been the case its just always been of the assumption that it mattered how many went to post that decided the place terms including A/P now i know thats not the case and its just cause this thread highlights the possability of so few runners i cant remember this before.
The only time i bet A/P is the festival or GN |
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^^^^ No probs mate, good luck in your antepost bets
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