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dwm,ill say it again,hurricane fly has won over 2 and a half miles,
so why wont he get up a hill over two miles?? surely your not that thick are you? |
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He's just a horse dwm and he has avery good chance, only a fool would write off a horse as talented as him, any of 7 horses can win this race.
Will you admit you are wrong if Hurricane Fly places given you say he'll finish 6th or 7th? |
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Not getting into arguments here lads, but HF has beaten the same horse a million times over, never been at the course etc... I've bought into these Irish superstars too many times before, all to do IMO, I fancy Menorah, we'll see on tuesday. (both prob be hammered out of site![smiley:crazy])
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Bet of day is hurricane fly at evens to beat menorah
fill your boots lads (s james) |
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oscar whiskey will win it
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CV of course I will, despite what many of you might think I am not just knocking the horse for the sake of it, I honestly don't believe he has the chance his price suggests, if he wins the race or is place then i'll start a thread admitting im wrong for all to see!
Evra, you honestly believe all it takes to stay the Cheltenham hill is to have won over a distance further than the race trip!? If you do you are an utter simpleton, and I fear for you next week, you're gonna lose fortunes!! Deplasterer has got a point, we get these so called superstar's from Ireland over every year, and while they've stood up in the past, in recent years a number of them have flopped!! I've fallen for a lot of them myself!! Irish racing is very poor, and a Grade One over there is the equivalent of a Grade Two over here; I think it'd pay a lot of people to note that. |
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How many grade 1s Menorah & Peddlars won?
This boils down to figures horses posted and its a three horse race in my opinion - Binocular Hurricane Fly and Khyber Kim. I truly believe last years race was a very good renewal,figures back this up.Can Hurricane match these figures ? We do not know how much in hand he had over Solwhit or Go Native - But you think between 3 possibly 8 lengths in hand he bang there with the other two. I have Followed the jumps for nearly 30 years and this is a special horse alright and without sustaining injuries previously last two years i am convinced he be going for the hat trick next week. Its not all about betting but i would love to see him win and bury the Montjeu ghost.Only two champion 2 milers better See you when and Istabraq in my lifetime - He still got time to reach them dizzy heights , he is that good.Speed wins champion hurdles and this fella got it in bucket loads. Binocular only one i fear. |
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You think HF is third best behind See you then and Istabraq????
If you drink like that next week it'll get messy! |
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its opinions remember and you obviously new to the game i feel,
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Newish but longer than 3 weeks [;)]
You are correct mate it is all about opinions. Hurricane Fly has always seemed to have a great career behind him. Bumping heads with Solwhit in Ireland is a very different test to the one he will face on Tuesday. Horses that travel well always seem to have big fan clubs regarless of what they find of the bridle. I suspect HF will finish unplaced in the CH but whatever happens it's going to be an awesome race[:D] Here's hoping it's the cracker it looks on paper and all the horses come back safe. |
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"Evra, you honestly believe all it takes to stay the Cheltenham hill is to have won over a distance further than the race trip!? If you do you are an utter simpleton, and I fear for you next week"
its a fukking hill u muppet,not mount everest! HTH |
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Hurricane Fly has shown he can find off the bridle too, at the Punchestown festival last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKqIm52AMao Spotted Solwhit a proper lead and when asked was going away at the line. |
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You must admit any HF thread gets full of 'Look at what he did to Solwhit' coments.
Solwhit really aint all that is he? in last years CH they laughed at him. |
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Solwhit was sick days prior to last years champion hurdle. Peoples ignorance about that irks me. If you follow horse racing even a bit you would remember that.
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"Solwhit really aint all that is he? in last years CH they laughed at him"
didnt GO NATIVE laugh at BINOCULAR in last seasons FIGHTING FIFTH!and then we know what happened at cheltenham,if only horse racing was as cut and dry as that! |
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Oh please god not another one, Evra why did Go Native flop in last years Champion?
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CV,im simply pointing out an example as to why HANKTHETANK'S theory is wrong!
nothing else! im not slagging of GO NATIVE,try not jump to conclusions,reading the comment correctly first usually helps.im a huge GO NATIVE fan,and know how good he is |
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these threads are beginning to get pointless, always end the same way. hopefully there wont be another one until after the race when we can see who was right.
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evra I was just pointing out that you didn't know that Go Native got injured early in last years champion hurdle.
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sorry cv,i can understand why u thought that having read over my post again,my apologies,
oh i know he got injured early on in the ch cv,i backed him,fancied him big time,he has done me a few favours in the past,supreme novices & fighting fifth to name just two! |
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Doesn't matter dude. [;)]
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Time to end all this now,its just the same old argument- AGAIN!!
Horses time now. |
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Aye, thankfully that's it. I'm off tomorrow morning won't be back online until Monday when I get to Cheltenham. Think this Champion Hurdle is unique as it's so good and there's so many supporters of each horse.
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its clear to me that Hurricane Fly would have p1ssed up in the Supreme won by Go Native, Go Native went off 11/4fav for last yrs Champion..had Hurricane Fly been around he would surely have gone to the champion on the back of a few wins making him an even shorter priced fav than Go Native was (guessing about 2/1)..this year he can be backed at 11/2 and the horse has done nothing wrong!! Beyond the fact that I think he is potentially a superstar he must be backed at this price given where he would have been trading had he run in last yrs champion
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Have a great week CV
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There are some comedians on here using Hurricane Fly has only beaten Solwhit to try and shoot him down in flames.
Someone please show me a leading contender who has beaten anything nearing Solwhit's record apart from the reigning Champion. Menorah? Cue Card, Bothy and Get me out of Here definitely not. Peddlar's Cross ? an unfit Binocular can hardly be counted, Starluck and Duke of Lucca would be tailed off in this race. Dunguib's opponents are worth mentioning and neither are Oscar Whiskys. They really are underestimating just how good a horse Solwhit is compared to what the rest have been racing against this season |
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"He wont come up the hill id one of the funniest things I've ever seen." whether he handles Cheltenham the track is a different thing
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Why is that so funny!? Sizing Europe handles the track but doesn't get up the hill, he was screaming for the line in last year's arkle, and he's proved since he stays further! It happens, the hill has made many a classy horse look ordinary, and I expect we'll seem the same come 3.25 on Tuesday!
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"Sizing Europe handles the track but doesn't get up the hill"
is this guy serious,or on drugs?? either way your clueless ![]() ![]() |
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Evra, you're clearly inbred and have more fingers on your right hand than you do teeth!
Do something useful with your life; horse racing clearly isn't your game! Get your carer to log on to the Racing Post website and watch last year's Arkle; you'll see Sizing Europe travel perfectly well until he hits the bottom of the hill, and then desperately seek the line, proving my point! Actually on second thoughts, go clean some windows with your tongue! |
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Well no mate a horse what wins the Arkle clearly gets up the hill doesnt it? Christ almighty, just cos Somersby stays the better out of the two doesnt mean Sizing doesnt get up the hill
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a horse wins a race up this infamous hill of yours yet he cant get up it!!
you couldnt make it up could ye ![]() ![]() ![]() what a fukking mug,go have a lie down fella ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Last years arkle winner does not get up the chelt hill![]() ![]() thats your best post yet![]() ![]() just pricelessas for the other morons on here once again attacking one of the best hurdlers in training,solwhit,i'm now reading on here that HF is a bridle horse ![]() i'm starting to feel sorry for the state of the racing public who have such a lack of knowledge,you people should be ashamed of yourselves,i'm all for people having an opinion,but when there opinion is complete rubbish it needs saying. |
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Yeah see if racing was actually as simple as "a horse what (should be that really) wins the Arkle clearly get's up the hill", then I wouldn't be interested in it really, because it could always be solved by simpletons like yourself and this Evra character!
Look boys, do your bollocks on the horse, I couldn't give a ****! What's gonna wind me up is come Tuesday night we're gonna either have all you lot either making excuses for the horse, or worse giving it the "well, he tried his best and just wasn't good enough on the day" number! He won't win, and the way you're all building him up he should, so be prepared to admit your failings and offer a word or two of criticism about the horse when he doesn't, do be all magnanimous in defeat, because you've gone too far to pull that off convincingly! |
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*don't be all magnanimous
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if HF does not win the CH it will simply be cause he is not good enough and that is exactly what i would say if i didnt already know that he was going to bolt up
Day one festival headline-HURRICANE DESTROYS CHELTENHAM RACECOURSE |
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^mystic meg
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youn dont know he will bolt up, so stop being so silly.
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Hurricane fly has more group 1 experience than any of the other contenders and for that has to be take seriously.
Headline Hurricane fly destroys the field and wins the champion hurdle |
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Course he has to be taken seriously,but claims like i am reading on here often lead to a lot of egg on faces.
you should stop being so silly as well imo chopper. |