umm,i watched the CH a few times now,and he gets home ok in my view,and is not a bridal ponce as you call him.got home ok in the xmas hurdle behind Go Native as well i thought.
Strenghtened up since then i think after watching him in the fighting fifth this season.
if he runs hes a big chance i feel,dont think he will though,after reading between the lines connections quotes today.

Seriously lads,i suggest you watch the champion hurdle again taking note of Starluck and CH and how both of them are ridden, forget all those horses around them, makes for interesting viewing imo. And if he isn't a bridle ponce then how would you explain his run at haydock last year? this horse has issues when off the bridle and has shown it consistently since day one.

Also bare in mind that before today the last time this horse won was a flat race nearly a year ago and was about 15-16 months since he won a race over hurdles,beating the mighty classic swain,saticon and silk hall in the process. The highest level he's ever won a race over obstacles being a class two race and now theres the notion he could run well in what would be only his second start over fences, around cheltenham in a grade 1 championship race.

Goretski did you notice the going at Haydock?
Did you notice the rating of the horse who beat him half a length?
The way he was ridden by Timmy Murphy was typical Murphy. AP rode him completely differently today so you know what you can do with your 'bridle ponce' comment. The horse can only run the way the jockey lets him. Nothing wrong with the horse.

Get your facts right please.

Instead of making your fatuous comments why don't your tell me a horse he didn't beat that he should have?

Just tell me one. Any one will do.

Yes Mr Thriller. He was rated 161 while Starluck was rated 147.
The ground was desperate and TM took the scenic route to get the best ground. Still only got beat half a length.

Why don't you answer my question Goretski?


Tell me one horse Starluck should have beaten but didn't?

Take your time. Any one will do.

Something that backs up your 'bridle ponce' ridiculos insulting comment.

Your insane man, i just gave you one.......Mr thiller!

Actually Goretski, could you name a horse in this year's Arkle that you'd take to beat Starluck over hurdles (i.e. one that would do better than 5th in last year's Champion Hurdle). I'll presume that you can't find one. Now, based on that, the fact he has demonstrated he has taken to fences today, and the fact that stamina won't be an issue in a 2 mile chase compared to a 2 mile hurdle; then you can't say he has no chance. I'm not saying he'll win, but he seems to have what I'd describe as 'as good a chance as any'.

and the fact that stamina won't be an issue in a 2 mile chase compared to a 2 mile hurdle

Brownes. I asked you this on the other thread. What on earth are you basing this theory on? A I said, dont mean to sound rude but its nonsense. The Arkle winner nearly always has more stamina than the Triumph or Supreme winner imo.

Can't Catch Me....sorry fella, just answered on the other thread.

I know the ground was shocking that day brigust and its not entirely starluck's cup of tea but he seemed to travel well enough that day, didnt hurdle aswell as he can, possibly jumping of the ground being the reason but i dont care if mr thiller was rated 261, he still shouldn't have beat starluck that day from after the last and when he went 2-3 lengths up on the run-in.

You dont want this horse to get the AP treatment at a stamina sapping course like Cheltenham in the best/fastest company on only his second outing over fences, a course he has not shown great stamina over hurdles there twice before. A small horse he needs more time to gain fencing experience, AP said it today yet brigust1 knows better .... LMAO.

LOL ... is black white brigust1?

Nearly catching the antepost CH fav and beating the eventual winner of that race at Kempton really screams Bridal ponce? dont think so
pmsl

clueless some people!!

Anyway as i said,i dont think connections will run him,think they want him to gain more experience,seems that way listening to them.Makes sense that they should be the ones to decide whats best for the horse as i have been saying all along,Pity for my bet but sh!t happens in this game.

Eric,if they decide not to run,you will be glad they read your posts and took your advice

If the trainer had origianlly said that they were just going to see how he got on on his fencing debut and then make a decision about the Arkle or whether to wait for Aintree etc it would have been fair enough, but everything I read leading up to yesterdays race suggested that a nice win would see him line up for the Arkle.

Feel sorry for backers.

These are some trainer quotes -

"He's going to run over fences either next week or the week after and then, if all went well, he could run in the Arkle," said Fleming.

"We'll just have to see what happens on his next run as that will tell us if he likes it or not. We'll play it all by ear."

I haven't backed the horse though feel he would be a worthy 7/1 shot or thereabouts if he lined up on normal going - I'd certainly fancy him far more than Finians Rainbow who I have backed at huge prices.

I agree they never once said he would definitely run in the Arkle, and even if they had they still have the right to change their mind. Alan King did this with My Way De Solzen - at a Cheltenham preview evening he told the assembled crowd that he would be going for the Ryanair (price went out to over 20/1 for the Arkle) - a few days later switched back to Arkle
But they did say that 'if all went well he could run in the Arkle' and 'his next run will tell us if he likes it'. Well to my eyes his win yesterday was good enough to persuade them, epecially in such an open year, and those people who backed him did so in the strong belief that a nice win with a solid round of jumping would be enough to see him line up. Making them out to be stupid for taking the chance is not nice.

Of course he could be declared an intended runner next week and then tread on a stone or something - such is the nature of antepost betting.

Nobody made them out to be stupid other than you who specializes in putting words in people's mouths. I said it was their mistake when warnings were given they would play it by ear. Well McCoy has had a word in their ear advising them the Arkle comes too soon.

The horse was feeling it a bit according to AP and who are you to argue with him to satisfy your positions on the race whether it be backing him or laying others. Am sure both the trainer and jockey have spoken about doing what is right for the horse and not for your positions on the race.

shut up Eric,your making a completd pr&t of yourself

FFs Goretski you're like a dog with a bone. Why don't you just eat it and move on.

Starluck has been beaten 6 times. Five were in Grade 1's where he wasn't good enough and the other time was on bottomless ground against a higher rated horse.

Try reading the above at least twice then move on. There is nothing left for you here.

sorry it werent a simpler answer,but imo it was not possible given the question.