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Get Me Out Of Here - max bet Cheltenham
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Eric seething again
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55 and in his bedsit (NAP) |
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Quite relaxed here, psychology not your strong point uncle puncle .... just arbing.
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This poor horse apparently hasnt been right yet still they keep running it time and again in pretty tough races this season.
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Is this the day?
Will there be money in the ring before the race? Will he still have something wrong with him after his recent op? Will he be Pegasus II re-incarnated? Will AP touch him with the whip today and 'do the washing' on him? Will the stewards be facing the wall once more? Will there be more Wills on any other thread on this forum? |
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Has had a breathing problem and had it quarterised (prob wrong spelling), so will it improve? Not sure ...
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If the money is down it will have worked and AP will use the whip imo.
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Q1. No!
Q2. Not even Jonjo could tell you that Q3. Yes he's called Grandouet ;0) Q4. Not a horse you have to bully. If he doesn't do it himself AP won't punish him Q5. Not worth respoding to Q6. Prince William did threaten to join but Dad said no way when he found out you were a member |
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Q1a I missed. Nope.
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Q4 he did in the Supreme Novices gave it a brutal ride.
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my guess is the 'money was down' on that occasion.
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Plenty use of whip in ToAt Trophy remember thinking it would have an effect on the horse mentally after the race.
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Unlucky Eric , greart ride pipped at the post
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Fair play to Eric .
You only needed a pair of eyes to see what was happening. However many with a pair seemed to get confused with the message the eyes where sending to the brain .Probably the latter part being the problem. |
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I didnt back him though I was tempted this morning didnt think they would make it so obvious.
Message to the stewards at Ascot, Cheltenham and Newbury ... you are stupid. |
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Guys you are all missing the obvious - the proceedure carried out is what is know in vets terms as a
hand-breakectomy and it seems to have worked the oracle on this boy who was mighty unlucky in defeat. This is a common proceedure and is equally simply reversed when required. The horse was plotted up for one of the biggest Hcaps of the year perfectly (well nearly perfectly)- all part of the game so get over it and enjoy. |
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Plotted up perfectly only in the eyes of plankton the most basic form of life on earth .... you would have to go back to amoebic acids to not spot this one the th1ck tw@ts.
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It isnt that easy anymore there are intelligent people around who will rip the p1ss out of you when you get it wrong. Mainly downside now imo, must do better next time because this one was sh1t and a lot of punters lost money at Newbury and before at least get it right you useless fkwits.
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Did the stewards look into the improved run today ???
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So manipulation of the handicapping system is only acceptable where it's not obvious to the naked eye. He did get away with it despite making it pretty obvious but as most folk on here have been knowledgable to notice for months then why the big surprise at the big improvement today after the money coming for it. You either backed it today or you chose not too. I backed it and the only disappointment for me was the fact it got pipped on the line. Id much rather horses were plotted in this manner that some of the more underhand ways that no doubt go on week in week out.
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I understand horses have to be handicapped for targets during the season, this one gets my goat as the horse could had been running in the champion hurdle (probably well beaten) and it had a jockey on board who rarely goes easy on a horse.
Thats what makes it stand out more than others. I backed gmooh today like i have since its 2nd run but i couldnt help but smile when the result came in. |
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Appeasement is the way ..... yay !!!
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footnote: Mr Westsound hereby declares himself fairly clever on this occasion spotting simplistic (to a plankton, no offence) plot but in future withholds the right to chastise said plots when not spotted by (again plankton if not more advanced 18th century horse doesnt run as well as it can tiresome shoyte) him.
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Was it any worse than the improvement in Buena Vista (there might be a thread on that ride too somewhere but I'm too tired to look) ?
Why run the horse in the CH when as you say it would most probably have been well beaten - no where near that standard imo. The biggest interest now is where GHOOH goes from here. AP reported after the race that he feels there is still an issue with his breathing and a further operation may be required again in the summer. |
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No different to BV, their was a stewards into his running last season and this season. But in defence of BV and connections they put up lots of jocks and rode him out the back and the jockeys pretended to get serious on BV, even thou it was flapping.
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Who gives a flying fook what he says tbh ... if you do you are a prize clown (only just better than plankton)
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em, you have to admit you should not being putting up the best jock on non triers. I reckon AP doesnt enjoy it.....
pipe know the best weigh imo. |
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If you havent learned to form your own opinion on this by now without 'listening to connections after failed gamble today' you need to take up crown green bowling as a hobby.
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IS agree with you dont think AP fully believed in that ride.
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they nearly got the lot
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THEY nearly did
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Was it any worse than the improvement in Buena Vista (there might be a thread on that ride too somewhere but I'm too tired to look) ?
Not to mention Albertas Run |
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as we always knew, possibly the worst kept secret in jumps racing, ap was a tad more vigorous today wouldnt u say
delighted ruby nutted him and an absolute disgrace theyre allowed get away with it! |
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Ruby had the benefit of the running rail and unusually, AP let him up on his inside. I backed GMOOH in the morning EW at 14's, so no damage done but undoubtedly the best finish of the day.
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What did the surely inevitable steward's enquiry decide about the previous three runs?
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Interesting AP still thinks hoss has a problem with its breathing.
He thought something was not quite right in previous runs this season and therefore on more than 1 occassion chose not to ride out with hands & heels (thinking of the welfare of the horse of course). So he still thinks its got a problem yet it gets the full AP treatment today. How did AP know that on previous occassions giving it a nudge would have possible caused harm yet yesterday a good thrashing wasnt going to be an issue. |
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good call Eric-hats off to you on this one.
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Eric's taken some stick on another post some of which is a bit unfair, on this post he got it very right and
was unlucky not to collect |
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He had an operation less than a fortnight ago and Jonjo dis say he had shown signs it had worked, I didn't think he could possibly recover from that, no matter how simple it is, in time so I never backed him.
Too many confusing looking after a horse who's not right with stopping one and you simply don't stop horses in the type of races he has been running in. You may well give him a quite run but not 3 and if JP had wanted to land a touch and the horse wasn't wrong in himself why not the Tote where he has won before. Jonjo and Jp are way too clever to have tried to land a huge gamble on this horse after he's been in the limelight all season. He was wrong in himself and that's all about it. Just asked a question on another thread about thsis so just i case anyone missed it. Q> Who thinks the operation Get me Out Of Here had 10 days ago was part of a plot? |