Will Starluck run in the Arkle?

I'm a 'nose bleed' punter Magic. I do my weekly betting but with ante post when I see something at a good price I go a little bit mad. If it doesn't hurt the pleasure won't be as good. In my opinion of course.

Each to their own brigust.The reasons i haven't layed off yet are that i still honestly believe he will go to the Arkle and thus if i wanted to trade then i could do so freely at far shorter than his current price.

"Day 1 will be crucial, not only does he ride Binocular but Starluck has now been confirmed for the Arkle, whilst Quantativeeasing is ante-post favourite for the closing Centenary Novices' Chase.

Starluck got off to an encouraging start over fences at Huntingdon last week and, with J.P. McManus not having an obvious Arkle contender, McCoy is set to retain the ride."

It looks like Starluck goes to the ARKLE!!!!

is that a bullsh1t quote or u seriously find it?>

No it's a genuine article from betfair. Website timeforms Martin Dixon is doing a piece on what he predicts will be a poor festival for AP and that is a segment from it. The article is from 1 march which is a new one. So he's seems to think or know starluck been confirmed runner.

Star does take his chance confirmed runner.

ok lovely nice1!!!!! hope it runs well!

Great news if it's right Though nothing about it yet on the Racing Post or Sporting Life sites and the price hasn't come in to around 10/1 like you would expect

It's also been reported on here that Hobbs says Captain Chris is nigh on certain to go for the Jewson - poor old Eric's book on the Arkle gets worse every day

And mine gets better,but this antepost lark is always waiting to bite back!!
No chickens being counted yet!!

If Starluck is a "confirmed runner" why is there no record of this in the Racing Post, Sporting Life or indeed anywhere else?

as its not from the horses move so to speaks this is just according to a report from the timeform guy on AP's festival prospects. But it seems to be backed up by the Betfair price.

They just asked Graham Cunningham on RUK whether he thought Starluck would run in the Arkle and he thought he would. He's backed Medermit and will fear S greatly if he runs and will have a saver on him.
No news yet, though. Less than 2 weeks to go and the ground looks to be in our favour, should he run.

See if you can get them to flatten that hill a bit too brigust

Why do you think I'm only on here every so often. I'm digging like f@ck. If that doesn't work I'm moving the winning post to the bottom of the hill. Do you think anyone will notice before the CH?

Starluck may have won at the Festival already had you done it earlier... and won me a small fortune in the Triumph

Stop trying to make a name for yourself by making daft comments wakey.
The trainer has already been quoted as saying"The arkle may come to soon as he lacks experience,and we'll do whats best for the horse"
And its no surprise the price has dropped with comments like"Starluck has now been confirmed for the Arkle",when it hasnt.
The only opinion thats worth anything is the trainers,so i would ignore that.
Anyway,for anyone thats stupid enough to believe that,then take note of wakeys latter comment"It looks like Starluck goes to the ARKLE ".
Bit different from confirmed,its either confirmed or it isnt,and right now it isnt.

I just copied the Article mate. My only comment was the bit at the end saying it looks like Starluck goes to the Arkle. So hows about you read the thread probably before you comment!!!

Read the Article yourself if you dont believe me!!

http://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/cheltenham/cheltenham-festival

If Mcoy had been quiet ,Starluck would be abt 6 or 7s....and going for the Arkle !!

True, so 10's NRNB is better?

9:06 PM  ppaudioteam: Ted Walsh just announced Starluck def non-runner in Arkle, according to Nick Luck in Waterford

I would nt do much listenin to Ted Walsh mind [:x]

Paddy Power also confirmed it's a non runner

My Arkle position is looking excellent actually. Good try though.

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Great news if it's right Though nothing about it yet on the Racing Post or Sporting Life sites and the price hasn't come in to around 10/1 like you would expect

It's also been reported on here that Hobbs says Captain Chris is nigh on certain to go for the Jewson - poor old Eric's book on the Arkle gets worse every day

Who's in your book for the arkle eric?

He will tell you at around 3.10 on the Tuesday

^^^

Goretzki I dont have an Arkle book.

Ok then, whats your arkle position?

My position on Arkle is I think he is the greatest ever chaser and total freak. zilzal1 knows what that is like to be a total freak ask him.

Ok last try, did i read somewhere you were a captain chris man for the arkle? apologies if ive mixed u up with someone else

Thought you were trawling through previous threads to show me up YBM ???


As i said, his Arkle position's will be revealed after the event.......

zilzal1, no need to, cant believe you havent worked it out.

LOL, if you had proof then you'd show it


Hardly a shrinking violet in copy and paste, are you


On a more serious note, id agree with your other thread about Walsh's comments

very odd level of (mis)information with regard to this.

In yesterday's London Standard, it was reported "Meanwhile, Tony McCoy will school Starluck on Wednesday before a decision is made over his participation in the Arkle Challenge Trophy."

Reporters looking to lay off?

Announced clear as day at last nights Cheltenham Preview with PPowers and Ruby Walsh present that Starluck had been announced a none runner in the Arkle.

The Racing Post had headlines when the horse was switched to fences (could reporters have got on) and now they seem reluctant to report on his none participation (could reporters be looking to lay off?) or Is this bookie influenced, their main backers as advertisers, who will keep bets on him before nrnb applies. A little sinister this as mentioned above.

Serious case of keeping everyone in the dark.
Allows all sorts of rumours to circulate.
I understand they will want to check everything out. I thought if the AP thing was right then at least they were still considering running him.

It would be nice if someone just put me out of my misery

I read a report o Tuesday hes confirmed.
I watch Preview Night Hes definitely out
I wake up this morning hes the momest popular bet on oddscheckers website

What is going on!!

Dunno which oddschecker you use but he hasnt moved no blue at all even though there is nrnb. Are you also looking to lay off?

If it is bestbetting you use they are all blue nearly always as it isnt an overnight but an overall indicator they have shortened.

Todays shorteners are Realt Dubh and Medermit and Finians.

^^^^Ha ha you're blocked you tw@t. I have no interest in what you have to say and neither should anybody else. I reported you're scum-bag thread about falling and they removed it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Shut up YBM and read Wakey's post properly.
He said he's the most popular bet on oddschecker. Which he was (now he's the 4th).

Eric just tap on home on home on top left hand corner it takes you back to homepage which sows you the Most Popular Bets of that particular day via the site.

Its 4th now behind 2 horses today and Cue Card for the Supreme.

You re a bad loser. I had the horses safety in mind on that thread regardless of your reasons for ringing up to have it removed. Your true colours have come out there. Pleased you blocked me hopefully a few others on this thread have as well.

Starluck has not been backed overnight I told you the blue on oddschecker with the bookies are Realt Dubh, Medermit and Finians. Anyone can check this.

I imagine everyone on betfair has blocked you by now you muppet. Why don't you start a thread "YBM off to Legoland". I've blocked you now as well, have fun talking to yourself.

if they do go to Cheltenham my wish is that Starluck falls at the first fence and is unscathed, that would be slight karma for the way connections are messing people around, why announce to the world that Arkle was target a few weeks ago, only to step back and say it was uncertain after a debut success over fences? McCoy then goes on to make some pretty bold statements and saying "it would be unfair on the horse to go straight to the Arkle in his opinion" then I think wtf is McCoy being questioned regarding the horses future races, has he now taken up ownership? LOL
Then conlicting reports this week, he goes for it, he doesnt. Paddy Power Review night and clear as day reported that A Fleming has declared him a non runner and they are going to wait for Aintree, so I lay off at the odds I backed him prior to his chase debut, I then log onto betfair to see if any is matched, and all of it was and now trading over 5pts lower!

Just cos its been backed it doesnt mean its contracting in price.... The blue just means its contracted in price, whatever bets theyve had they feel they can take.

I am going to give you a chance Eric cos i ama nice guy. The most popular bets are only an indication of what is being bet on this site and it doesnt say how much is being bet just the volume of bets. Buts its an indication that someone somewhere is backing Starluck.

lol what a clown you got totally the wrong person there which doesnt surprise me. I am really pleased at those who have blocked me, it means less hassle and pocket talking from them in the future in my direction. Blocking is an excellent feature on here now.

Anyway when you refer to 'everyone' are they the comrades you are trying to convince Starluck has been well backed today, arent you worried they will do their hard earned on him after he was announced a none runner at the preview online last night? If I were them I would be blocking you, you could be very costly to follow on here.

and what is with all the talk about McCoy not having a ride? Rock Noir???

and Bellvano.

This thread title should be changed to

'Will we be able to lay off our Starluck bets before last nights preview announcement re him being a none runner becomes widely known'

Pointless excercise i see.

Can't believe you said that Nelson.
I know it's tortuous but this is Cheltenham. It isn't like missing any other meeting.
Even Hobbs hasn't decided for sure where he is going to run Captain Chris. His backers may have to wait until the Monday before to know their fate.
Obviously I hope he runs because, if he does, I think he has a blinding chance and the field is cutting up bad.
Also he has run at the last 2 Festival's, that may help. We'll see.

You dont care about the horses safety one jot brigust1 having rung up to have the thread re my fear of him falling be removed. You are only interested in your 50/1.

I said fall at the first unscathed, a soft fall, I would not want anybody to be hurt. Ok maybe fall is a bit far, maybe the jocks saddle just slip after jumping the first ha!
Understand what u say regarding it being Cheltenham, but why make statements??? At least Hobbs has not declared Captain Chris as 'yes the Arkle is the aim' now 'he will definately go to the Jewson' or 'he will sidestep Cheltenham'
I think he would have an outstanding chance, this years race looks bad, but that is not the point, the point is about people saying one thing and doing another

To be fair they never said he was definitely going Arkle as posted earlier on this thread they just said he may go. That isnt saying he goes and after APs comments you would have to be surprised if he had gone.

The announcement at last nights preview suggests a clear indication he is a none runner has been given, your issue is with the press who are not reporting things as they should.

its spelt NON Runner Eric

Mug

eric is a grade 1 idiot imo

yourbestmate - "I have (insert made up price) on (insert horse who has just won trial race)"

Do people honestly think that as soon as trainers and owners, who as soon as they decide one way or another that their horse will or won't be going for a particular race that the pick up the phone and inform joe public what they are doing?

Not an ideal situation but i reckon at some stage we've all backed nons who why assumed to be runners.

Well,hes a non runner.
Fair enough if connections think it too early for him,dont blame them for looking after the horse if they have doubts.
Was worth a dabble at 50 odd on here,win some yer lose some.

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^^^^Ha ha you're blocked you tw@t. I have no interest in what you have to say and neither should anybody else. I reported you're scum-bag thread about falling and they removed it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Chaps isnt it fun seeing Eric typing away and we dont have to see any of his tripe! His post about Starluck was cruel in the extreme...well done ALL he will be gone soon......possibly carted away!! LOL

Agree Bud. It's a pity but there you are. At these prices you don'y have to invest too muh to make a difference.
Sadly it brought the bad out in some but lagely it was an enjoyable journey.
I still can't help thinking they have made a mistake, though.
I wonder if they will look back in the future and wish they had gone to Cheltenham. We will see.
I remember pushing like anything for Clive Smith to run Kauto Star in the Hennessy. They decided against it because they wanted to win a 5th King George. I wonder whether they regret that now?
Anyway, looking ahead, I do have the next step already planned so the chance of recompense awaits.
GL

I can't really see why they ran it at Huntingdon, might as well have left it until next season and he'll now never run in an Arkle. Doesn't make sense and Aintree arguably more difficult for an inexperienced horse to jump round unless they're hoping the race cuts up badly.

I agree with a lot of what you say Booster but we now have the benefit of hindsight, they didn't.
I do agree that Aintree could be more difficult than Cheltenhsm though. They go a good speed at Aintree so another prep is advisable. The last time he ran at Aintree after Cheltenham he ran worse. But I wish them luck and haven't changed my mind about him.

And I don't think the long run to the last at Aintree is necessarily in his favour either.

I think this staying issue is over-rated. He stayed a mile and a half on the flat and he has already won at Cheltenham. The only races he lost he was racing against higher rated horses. I also think Timmy Murphy's exagerated waiting tactics only work against lesser opposition so worked against him in better races.
Time will tell, all is not lost.

Any news on Bellvano, anyone?
Would be interestng if AP rides in the Arkle. Or is he without a ride now?

Rock Noir

What is going on with Starluck? Been backed over the last few days and only today backed at 16s and 28s.
Is it likely that an easy win at Sandown on Saturday plus the drying ground will become a factor?

brigust1, banksy, bring on chelt!!, magic carpet, booster, Goretzki, gigs_pig ... what a bunch of clueless idiots with little knowledge of a horses ability and strengths and weaknesses. Rather than admit this they will character assassinate those who consistently get it right when they consistently get it wrong.

What a shower of t0ssers you all were on this thread, clueless would be being polite to you all ... clowns.

uncle puncle also but that goes without saying.

Trainer -

"Looking at that we'd have looked fair mugs if he'd run in the Arkle"

Quite but not as big a mug as the clueless tw@ts on this thread.

It is funny now that these idiots who accuse me of changing username will now stalk me trying to get me banned ... they dont even realise it is tw@ts like them that get the decent knowledgable posters banned on here they have their heads so far up their own @rses they cant take it when they are wrong again and again.

Yes I still think you are all fkwits brigust1


brigust1
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Just looking through all the Arkle threads. On the 27th Jan the decs were out and 2 of mine, Flat Out and Thousand Stars non runners. Went through the info again and on 6th Feb added Starluck to Finians Rainbow. Nice prices, win or lose.
Now Starluck has a thread all of his own and, without question, has brought a great deal of interest to this race.
I did notice Eric was calling all of us f u c k w i ts on the other threads so no change there. He really should get himself sorted.

Anyway the bandwagon is still rolling and what looked like a low interest race has set the taste buds salivating.

Let the games begin.

Equally disturbing is the once excellent analysis in the RPost saying after his first chase outing it would be a shame if he didnt go to the Arkle now ... jesus wept who writes that sh1t now a 10 yo?

Eh Eric...i'm now a clueless idiot am i?

Goretski did you not block Eric the muppet? i dont miss his nonsense as the irritant was getting in the way. have a cracking Festival

Contemplating it now alright, have a good one mate

Damn shame Starluck doesn't get 2 miles in a strong run race, Lovely horse but wouldn't get the trip any the festival in any race. Can sill pick up a nice chase or two next season which is kewl

bring on chelts !!! takes the biscuit on here for denial of his cluelessness what a complete tw@t

Yes please all block me on this thread ... PLEASE.

Nothing like a bit of humility Ybm, Hows Steinbeck ??

zilzal1 yet again I prove I. am the best antepost punter on the planet .. is that ok Stalker No. 1 ?

And your nurse will confirm that

A relation of mayweather....shirley!

Apologies zilzal1 got that wrong you are right ... I missed the word 'ever' from that.

God, Eric, you're the saddest little bastard I've ever heard. Today's race didn't prove anything other than he doesn't want a small field on soft ground which we already knew. From my financial point of view, the only horse I've backed for the Arkle is Realt Dubh at 28s laid back at 14s so I've got nothing riding on the decision but the real loser is the owner, who will never get the chance to run a horse in an Arkle who has finished close up in a Champion Hurdle and Triumph Hurdle due to lousy training and placing of his horse by the trainer.

Can't believe anyone has a life so sad to need to constantly go over old threads and list people's names just because they don't agree with you. I really wish you hadn't been bullied at school. Counselling would be a great option for you, you might even meet a friend there, something you would clearly benefit from having.

Whilst i congratulate you on getting a 1/10 poke right i sadly feel this does not quite qualify you as the Stephen Hawking of the Ante Post forum.

Apart from the Wheelchair.....

I might have known the forums biggest bullsh1tter, booster, would try and er bullsh1t his way out of this one. The trainer said it, AP tried to tell you before but you knew better as a mug punter.

The trainer said after todays race they would have looked mugs going for the Arkle. He made the right decision not going, you lot didnt really care for the horse who may not have survived a fast Arkle judging by todays performance...as I told you all repeatedly.

Now block me it is for the best.

Perhaps worth another airing, following the disgusting behaviour on show.......

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I've heard it said that the greatest of gifts is to be able to see yourself as others see you. Unfortunately Eric is virtually the polar opposite of this and so it could be said that he is afflicted with the greatest of curses. He sees himself as almost divine when it comes to the business of antepost punting and like most deities is therefore incapable of error and it follows that his pronunciations must not be challenged. Any questioning of his methods is, at best, feeble-minded, but more likely heresey.
This differs greatly from what we see, a deluded fantasist, punting his pocket money, whose only pleasure in life is to ridicule others views in the hope that we will see the truth (that he is infallible). I assume that this desperate need for approval/god complex has its root in some kind of sexual inadequacy or perhaps mere frustration at still having to live at home with his long-suffering parents. His anger stems from our refusal to accept that aftertiming heroic last second trades (completely at odds with earlier vigorously argued stances), does not a guru make.
Bless him.

Desmond argued on this antepost forum that I couldnt say Celestial Halo was really bad value for the Arkle at 10/1 before he even ran over fences antepost because he was the highest rated hurdler in the race. I pointed out  accurately why he was poor value and he argued for about 2 pages I was wrong.

He disappeared without trace then with his tail between his legs after that failed project and is another example of someone I proved miserably wrong that has to come back and stalk me, another who has his head so far up his own @rse he cant accept how rubbish he is at antepost so takes it out on those who prove him wrong.

Desmonds Orchard is out of apples and he is blocked by me I dont have the time for such a bluster who is furious when he gets it wrong not with himself but with others.

Well I certainly crashed and burned with Starluck. Never mind, no-one died. I guess the 50s for the Arkle was about right in the end. I must admit yesterday's round of jumping was the poorest I have seen for a long while. Not sure now what the future holds, we'll see I guess. Opportunities arise from the strangest circumstances.
Don't worry about Eric though. I've bocked him a while ago and so it will remain. I have no idea what he is saying and I care not. It is impossible to have a discussion with someone whose starting point is that you are an idiot.

I've never said and don't need to block you, you're a little pain in the arse but I couldn't really give a toss about any opinion you hold. Please post your positions , you're an expert with the cutting and pasting, or do you find the £2 minimum stake on here prohibitive.

Love it when you call me a bull****, another successful week's ponting for me, Eric, exacta paying £123, long priced winners and doubles, so my pockets are full again and I've got things to do and friends to share it with.

Just come back from a spa break pre Cheltenham, paid for by my winnings from racing as usual, are you going with mummy to see nana today? Hope she's made your favourite cakes to put in your lunch box with your banana sandwiches and glass of milk at school.

YBM will be off to Legoland tomorrow for a week.

Morning Brig
Shame about Starluck,but they did the right thing not running in the Arkle for sure.Was worth a punt at 50,you just never know,he certainly had the hurdles form,but thats racing.

By the way mate,starting to come round to Dunguib a tad,but really they should put a decent jockey on him.
Getting nervous??

Good morning Budd.

It's surprising how you're confidence recedes as the the race approaches. I still wouldn't swap him for any off the others.
I do agree about the jockey but that is out of my hands. I had hoped PF would take a note out of Hen Knight's book and go for an established Cheltenham jockey. It's not as though he has loads of top class horses to share around. Sometimes the logic of it escapes me. B O'C has had nearly 300 rides this season but only 9 winners. I only hope it isn't close.

well its hard to see him beating this field comfortably,and if its close as seems likely,he will need every assistance.To be honest i just dont understand them keeping the same jockey.

Nobody seems interested in Starluck now there are no bets riding on him. After his appalling show of jumping last time when there was a pace on thank god they missed the Arkle who knows what would have happened to him or others there. They have done the right thing also in hiring the services of Yogi Breisner with Aintree in mind however APs words re the horses lack of scope and small size still ring in the ears.

classic stuff

Hard to see him ever winning another chase so must be back over hurdles now.

Yes I was right again ... please take note mug punter zilzal1.