Get real...
Why is the horse as short as 8/1 then...

because even...

you could ask why cooldine was 12s and tricky trickser 12s last year, you see bbs its to get all the sheeps money.


so you emptied your account then on Diamond???  if you have then say goodbye to it, because you aint getting it back!

Just comical that people think Kempes could win a Gold Cup.
Would love a match bet Diamond Harry over Kempes

I wouldnt empty my account on any one horse.
I have bet Imperial Commander-Diamond Harry and Kempes
Kempes @ 75/1
I give all three a chance..
Just my opinion same as we all have an opinion...
Thats what racings all about.
Just the way you spout off and chat on here like a halfwit
spoils this forum....

well dont put losing tips on here then, novice punters come on here and id hate to think that they'd be taking your advice which is based on absolutley nothing, you shouldnt put your selections on forums without any reasoning as its just a waste of time.

agree with kempes, some savers at 100s..[:D][;)][:D] you know what i mean harry?

This horse is just clearly not cut out for 3 mile 2 furlongs at Cheltenham. I was stunned when I saw quotes of 20/1 yesterday and even more surprised to see it had been cut across the board to a best price 16s this morning. I had assumed they would wait for Punchestown where he won a novice chase last year (after being kept fresh).
Apart from almost definetly not being suited by the track the only piece of form that even puts him in the Gold Cup ball park is yesterdays race. It was run at a crawl with China Rock's jockey ruining his chance by setting sail for home far too early. Joncol is a decent enough yardstick but obviously well short of Gold Cup class and you could make a solid case that he is going backwards this year. Of the others Made In Taipan who wants good ground and is essentially a handicapper was right in behind jumping the last.
Although there is no standout contender for the Gold Cup there are now several contenders that have shown they could run to a mark in the 170s. I'll be stunned if this horse is even placed.
In a sad reflection on Joe Public, I concede that the point about the price is probably well made and he could well be a solid trade if he is confirmed for the race(?)

Whilst I've not checked since I looked yesterday the time when compared to standard was one of the better ones of the day wasn't it?

You are taking a leap of faith in what Kempes can do at Chelts come March but I was impressed yesterday and the extra 2f and better ground are worth half a stone IMO on what he achieved yesterday. I know that isn't enough to win a GC but thats assuming Kempes ran the race of his life yesterday. It looked easy enough to me and I've watched it back a few times, he won that cosily. He could have a live chance at a reasonable price.

The only one above him that I'm even thinking about putting my money on at the moment is Denman. I have serious doubts about the others.

glencove proved that.

cannot win a gold cup. ever. should be 66/1.

barry geraghty said in his blog for atr..."The winner, Diamond Harry, was still travelling really well two out and my horse had to work hard to get near him.

People have said that we might have beaten him but for the mistake but I think we’d have needed another half dozen lengths up our sleeve to get past him. The winner’s gone up 16lb and Burton Port’s up 14lb".

wot u mean ste?

The Gold Cup is wide open, but it's not that wide open. This thread is one of the more ridiculous i've seen on here. There are question marks over all of the runners, but most don't have the question mark of track, trip and ability. 4/1 a place is such poor value it makes me want to vom.

and your point is?

Well saying that all these horses have so much to find for a start

Kauto's not a 190 oss
Denmans won one race in two years
Imperial Commanders had one run in a year beating Tidal Bay a couple of lengths

vinnie...22.44 post. thoroughly comical he is. tbh i dont find it surprising that people who dont understand the concept of breeding also think kempes has a good chance in the gold cup

Did Kauto Star have the breeding to do what he did?

ffs,zilzal,kauto was fkin rated 190 going into the king george,ffs,fkin read,its since dropped 16 lb to 174.
cruise d,you couldnt read the handicap if it came up and smacked you in the head ,ffs,denman was rated 182 going into the hennessy,it finished ahead of three 156 rated horses,so it appears he ran up to somewhere near his best,as the first 2 who were 15 lengths ahead(approx),in receipt of 26 lb & 25 lb were obviously better than their marks of 156&157,indeed diamond harry has a new assessment of 168(not good enough to win a gold cup,unless he improves significantly again,but he looked flat to the boards to me,but maybe he could be the 1st horse ever to improve 14lbs in a field)
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Jump racing is only taken seriously in Britain, Ireland and France. In Ireland the sport is far more popular than flat racing, while in England it is more balanced, but the different seasons mean that most fans of the sport can enjoy both forms of racing.

The horses come from a variety of sources, with many being former FLAT horses, while others are BRED for jumping. National Hunt horses do not have to be thoroughbreds, but MOST are, and the ones who are not tend to be FRENCH. Many of the future stars of the sport come through Point-to-Pointing. The name reflects its hunting origins, from which the sport developed. The same skills of jumping ability and speed are required to succeed at both.
All modern Thoroughbreds trace back to three stallions imported into England from the Middle East in the late 17th and early 18th centuries: the Byerley Turk (1680s), the Darley Arabian (1704), and the Godolphin Arabian (1729).[17][18] Other stallions of oriental breeding were less influential, but still made noteworthy contributions to the breed. These included the Alcock Arabian,[19] D'Arcy's White Turk, Leedes Arabian, and Curwen's Bay Barb.[20][21][notes 1] Another was the Brownlow Turk, who, among other attributes, is thought to be largely responsible for the gray coat color in Thoroughbreds.[19] The addition of Arabian bloodlines to the native English mares ultimately led to the creation of the General Stud Book (GSB) in 1791 and the practice of official registration of horses.
Each of the three major foundation sires was, coincidentally, the ancestor of a grandson or great-great-grandson who was the only male descendant to perpetuate each respective horse's male line: Matchem was the only descendant of his grandsire, the Godolphin Arabian, to maintain a male line to the present;[22] the Byerly Turk's male line was preserved by Herod (or King Herod), a great-great-grandson;[23] and the male line of the Darley Arabian owes its existence to great-great-grandson Eclipse, who was the dominant racehorse of his day and never defeated.[20][24] One genetic study indicates that 95% of all male Thoroughbreds trace their direct male line (via the Y chromosome) to the Darley Arabian.[25] However, in modern Thoroughbred pedigrees, most horses have more crosses to the Godolphin Arabian (13.8%) than to the Darley Arabian (6.5%) when all lines of descent (maternal and paternal) are considered. Further, as a percentage of contributions to current Thoroughbred bloodlines, Curwen's Bay Barb (4.2%) appears more often than the Byerly Turk (3.3%). The majority of modern Thoroughbreds alive today trace to a total of only 27 or 28 stallions from the 18th and 19th centuries.[25][26]
Although the Thoroughbred is primarily bred for racing, the breed is also used for show jumping and combined training because of its athleticism, and many retired and retrained race horses become fine family riding horses, dressage horses, and youth show horses. The larger horses are sought after for hunter/jumper and dressage competitions, whereas the smaller horses are in demand as polo ponies.
Thoroughbreds are often crossed with horses of other breeds to create new breeds or improve existing ones. They have been influential on many modern breeds, including the American Quarter Horse,[111] the Standardbred,[112] and possibly the Morgan, a breed that went on to influence many of the gaited breeds in North America.[113] Other common crosses with the Thoroughbred include crossbreeding with Arabian bloodlines to produce the Anglo-Arabian[114] as well as with the Irish Draught to produce the Irish Sport Horse.[115] Thoroughbreds are often crossed with various Warmblood breeds due to their refinement and performance capabilities.[116]
Although Thoroughbreds are SEEN in the HUNTER-JUMPER world and in other disciplines, modern Thoroughbreds are primarily bred for SPEED, and racehorses have a very high rate of accidents as well as other health problems.
Under British National Hunt racing (i.e. Steeplechase) RULES, to minimize the health and safety risk for horses, riders, and spectators, nearly all participating horses are geldings.[12] On the other hand, in Europe, geldings are excluded from many of the most prestigious flat races including the Classics and the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe.[13] In North American Thoroughbred racing, geldings, if otherwise qualified by age, winnings, or experience, are allowed in races open to intact males.