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Captain Chris's Festival target
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Listening to Eric Morris is very boring....has no one else got an opinion or can they not be asked to listen either..
My take on Captain Chris is. He does look like a horse that is crying out for better ground, but he does look a horse who is trip less?? and is going to be hard to place, in the top end races, at either Cheltenham or Aintree. He doesn't jump well enough to win an Arkle and does not appeal as a betting medium. He just doesn't jump with any fluency. He has obviously got an engine and I like him but he could be an expensive horse to follow in the festival races. When people say about bouncing a horse out, that horse still needs the tactical speed, and jumping fluency to hold that position. Captain Chris has neither of these from what i have seen. The Jewson would be the best target for him just because it is a Grade 2 race and his jumping won't be put under the pressure it will be in the Arkle. I'd say he is a horse to be slightly wary of, despite showing he clearly has an engine. On better ground he will need to jump at an even faster pace. This is what also worry's me about what his best trip will be. Be warned. |
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It's very boring if you have a bet on something else in the race and dont want Captain Chris in the race reducing your chances of collecting.
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tony2914 ... most of the posters coming on here have something else in the race and obviously dont want him running. In a badly cut up race they know he has a chance of winning it if he runs.
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By the way I have backed him for the Arkle, so I do want him to run, but how anyone can possibly argue he is better going left handed is beyond me. At Newbury he must have lost 10+ lengths going out to his right.
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You have backed others for the Arkle for more as well? That is irrelevant tbh.
He has jumped way better left handed and over the Arkle course and distance than he has right handed. He doesnt lose much ground at his fences total over-exaggeration unless he makes mistakes which he has done right handed. |
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Trainer Philip Hobbs believes that it could be the Jewson Novices' Chase that proves to be Captain Chris’ Cheltenham target and the trainer explained: "I think it's going to have to be very soft to run Captain Chris in the Arkle but Richard Johnson probably disagrees as he feels he could be equally effective in either race. I'm leaning towards the two-and-a-half mile race with him.”
bit of a clue? start your prayers and raindancing Eric |
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He's been very slow to come to himself Captain Chris but all the right signs were there he's getting there now. My worry would be he'd be taken of his feet in the Arkle as Ghizao is going to be going a lot faster than he did when the 2 met last time with Finian's Rainbow involved. One mistake behind those two and your tea is out.
Common sense would say go for the longer race with a lot less pace to it. Or they could play silly beggars, go for the Arkle and pray to the heavens he doesn't clout a couple. |
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I still reckon it's 50/50 which race he goes for, even if the going is normal Chetenhma first day stuff (over watered good to soft) and while he may have a slightly better chance in the Jewson (say a 7/1 shot instead of 12/1 for the Arkle) the extra kudos and money for winning an Arkle, especially in such an open looking year, may well tempt them.
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still fancy Turtle Run for the Arkle,myself. [;)]
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eric morris is just **** himself as he's backed him for the Arkle and wants him to run. I'm not having a go at you for backing him in the Arkle, personally don't fancy him at all, just get sick of your blatant talking him up just so you get a run.
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Just read the thread in full and I would say if Eric was a horse he would be a stayer as he is certainly persistant. That said I agree with him in that the race is cutting up and he should take his chance in the more prestigious Arkle.
He will have a great chance and if the heavens open in the 24 hours before the race I would go as far to say he would be favourite for this IMO. |
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I'm not sure about favourite... Especially if it rains....
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Thread should be renamed "why Eric Morris thinks Captain Chris will win The Arkle"
Dull read, the life has been sucked out of the other contributions. |
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magic carpet, gutfeeling and bring on chelts!! yet again showing their cluelessness on this forum. I give them a masterclass and they throw it back in your face advising people to ignore me. Ah well there is no pleasing some. Read back on this thread and see who it is worth listening to and who not.
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ttt for benefit of the clueless brendrew a day tripper on here shouting his mouth/keyboard off.
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'And the award for humility' goes to............................
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You're right gutfeeling said he'd come on and admit he was wrong ... has he suddenly gone into 'read-only' mode on the forum now he has been proven so miserably wrong?
Same with bring on chelt!!! bring on chelt!!! When: 12 Feb 11 16:08 Chaps you are wasting your energy thinking about CC in the Arkle move on.... |
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Where are you gutfeeling?
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Eric im right here well done on flagging up Captain Chris couldn't have had him for the arkle sorry i haven't been on here for the last two days unfortunatly i have been at Cheltenham for the last two days you should try it some times its quite good fun.We all get it wrong from time to time its just some of us can hold our hands up and acknowledge this!Hope you put a bit of your winnings on Buena Vista, happy punting!
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No probs magic carpet hope your having a great time there with plenty of winners.
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My favourite thread of Cheltenham 2011
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All the usual suspects having a go and getting it wrong.
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Are you getting on my double for next season Eric?
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No, you need to read the situation deeper imo, cant say havent taken my position yet
You may be right but I would play the more likely scenario. |
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fairps
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Albion Dan. .... also never place specials. If it is the same horse I see it as losing value compared to having 2 different horses in a double however if it is Kg and Gold Cup this is not too bad because as this year and v often in the past, impressive KG winners often go on to win the Gold Cup also.
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I couldn't swear to it, but can anyone else not find a post on this fred where YBM says he had actually backed the beast with money?
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i believe you wont find such a post from Eric.
He does seem to think that no one is allowed to make a mistake. My mistake was thinking that CC would run in the longer race,and to be fair his trainer did seem to be hinting at that in the build up. I along with others said well done to Eric after the Arkle,but he seems to find it hard to win with dignity. |
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No doubt if it had lost, Bud, he would've shamelessly claimed that he hadn't backed it after all, a la GMOOH (you couldn't ask for a better example of what YBM is all about than that).
It was a good call though, fair play for that, the horse wore them down nicely and won going away. Though I was surprised that YBM put up a grinder for the race when he previously stated that it was a race for speed horses with 'a kick'. BTW, dignity comes with both experience and maturity. He lacks both. |
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By the nature of his posts,it seems you are correct Des.
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Albion Dan .... think you may be surprised where he will end up at the Festival.
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Where do you think? Ryanair?
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if he stays-gold cup,if not-QM
too good for ryanair |
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Could use it as a stepping stone a la Imperial Commander.
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Wherever did gutfeeling go?
Just reminding magic carpet of this below due to his samey but obnoxious comment on the Peddlars Cross thread by Rock.O.Gibraltar. magic carpet When: 08 Feb 11 23:15 Maybe P Hobbs should consult Eric Morris before mapping out his plans for his festival runners...Well at least the chasers or the ones Eric has backed for certain races |
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lol ... you've got to laugh at the idiots with short memories on here. magic carpet is the obnoxious one imo.
magic carpet When: 01 Mar 12 21:15 Maybe Mccain should have consulted Eric Morris before embarking on a novice chasing campaign! How obnoxious is this man? He comes on various threads spouting this and that about this trainer should do this or that horse is being campaigned wrongly here or there.I'm all for everybody having their say thats what an open debate is all about but this man has zero respect for anybody who dares to question his warped logic |
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Desmond Orchard
30 Mar 11 18:02 Joined: 28 Jun 04 | Topic/replies: 1,753 | Blogger: Desmond Orchard's blog Eric Morris on Horse Racing Ante-post/Cheltenham etc Fora, is the current incarnation of perhaps the most preposterous poster anywhere. He too is given to heroic last minute trades, directly at odds with previously strongly argued positions in order to get out in profit (often 6 figures!), despite never posting an actual bet before an event. He is utterly incapable of getting anything wrong and has, to my knowledge, never had a losing bet. Anyone who disagrees with him is a 'stalker', to whom he will attribute imaginary statements, obviously without any evidence to back them up, which he then attempts to discredit. He labours under the misapprehension that he has then 'proved you wrong' - a peculiar obsession of his that gives an indication of his overall insecurity. On the rare ocassions that he does tip up a winner (without actually admitting to having placed any actual money on the beast), he then crows from the rooftops that he is some kind of guru and all should worship at his alter, clearly oblivious to the fact that even a blind dog will pi55 up the odd lampost. He is great fun though and we would miss him over there if his Mum ever banned him for any length of time. That said, there is no shortage of contenders for Forum Idiot waiting in the wings |
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I find it quite sad really that Eric has had to go to such lengths of dragging up a thread from last year to prove that i got a particular race wrong.Anyone who takes the time to trawl through this will make up their own mind about the type of person he clearly is.
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Funny post that ilwab |