Chaps you are wasting your energy thinking about CC in the Arkle move on....

I dont fear CC in the slightest for the Arkle....genuinley dont as he is too slow. I doubt connections of CC will consider my view so not trying to persuade anyone. FR may not win the Arkle, indeed there is a very good chance he will not. I just think that the chances of CC rocking up at the Arkle are remote at best so seems a waste of time talking about it. I will shut up now.

You forgot about his win at sandown Eric.....Medermit that is....remember when he beat Captain Chris?...and bytheway how you could see anything at Newbury when Ghizao beat Captain Chris is a mystery to me as i was there and couldn't see most of the race due to the fog!!!!

magic carpet are you th1ck, i have detailed their jumping over Arkle trips NOT when they were stepped up in trip when Medermit jumped much much better and Captain Chris much much worse.

It is obvious to Neanderthal Man that Captain Chris has jumped way way better than Medermit at an Arkle trip AND under pressure against the beautiful jumper and Arkle fav Ghizao AT CHELTENHAM over COURSE and DISTANCE not making a mistake in his 2 runs around an Arkle trip whereas Medermit has blundered his way around at the minimum trip against camels when not under pressure (or refused to jump).

its been well noted that cc will be going for jewsons

No it hasnt ... you lose.

I think the best 2 milers are lightning quick jumpers, Medermit has been anything but that over the minimum trip. He has most to prove jumping around 2 miles at Chelts for sure. Captain Chris jumped the course and distance really well with no mistakes on his chase debut with immense pressure applied by Ghizao yet he finished very strongly on slowish ground. Quicker ground he will storm around there and Dickie Johnson knows it which is why he wants him to run in the Arkle.

Medermit has had 3 chances to jump well at 2 miles and been poor each time. IMO he has improved because he is going slower and jumping slower over the longer trips. The evidence is there above, ignore it if you want.

3 runs over fences

everytime stepped up in trip..
everytime staying on at the finish....
needs a trip and will lack that kick that is needed to win over 2 miles..
another ante-post bites the dust..
bad day with mikeal letting you down again..

Captain Chris will be the biggest danger to Ghizao on better ground. He has the kick on that alright read his form on spring ground.

gutfeeling you dont have a clue how I bet antepost, you wouldnt understand it mate however I can offer impartial views as I have the Arkle well covered at big prices dont worry about that. The PJ Moriarty was an excellent result for me however I wouldnt even try to explain why to you as it would travel through your vacuous skull faster than dark matter off a stick.

magic carpet I offered a valid opinion earlier today which you didnt like as it differed to yours so like a pompous cretin told people to ignore me. Are you for real lmao. You started the mudslinging.

Now, I am right with my factual stats around the Arkle trip comparing the great jumping at that trip of Captain Chris and the poor jumping of Medermit the 3 times he has run at the shorter trips. You cant argue with facts so you come back with cretinous personal gambits.

There is more money waiting to back Captain Chris than any other horse in the Arkle why havent you laid it?

Yeah yeah I've only been on here 8 months yeah yeah ... you got me

this horse runs in jewsons

Just watched CCs Ghizao races again to try and form own opinion . At Che he jumped the fences superbly but apart from the 3 from the top of the hill , all the others were jumped to the right , mostly just a yard or two , but enough .
The Newbury race was pretty fogbound but the course commentator decribed him as ' guessy ' at three fences and ' running down ' a couple more , again to the right .
No one disputes the horse has a hell of an engine and may get away with jumping right in March , but he wont get away with mistakes as well , at least not over 2 miles . Its been done over further , Rule Supreme was one , but fallers helped his cause .

paulo ... based on the form book evidence above, Captain Chris will jump around the shorter Arkle trip from a positive ride without mistakes where there is likely to be one or more of the others making mistakes either due to a drop in trip (Medermit) or lack of experience of fences at the undulating course (Realt Dubh, Finians).

This gives Captain Chris an advantage, we all know how important course form is especially at the trip. Ruby Walsh recently advised AP that Kauto Star likes to go slightly one way when approaching his fences yet it hasnt stopped him right or left handed not many horses will be straight as a die.

Look it is annoying you that I am pointing out how well Captain Chris will be suited to the Arkle re jumping compared to others using facts from the form book when you have a large bet on Finians Rainbow you mentioned on another thread and are trying to shout me down ... let's not dress it up as anything else.

Asking me to go away is a bit rich when I started this thread yet you cant keep away from it for the reasons I just gave. Go ahead leave the thread then dont post on it again. Oh and while you're at it, Captain Chris has the most money waiting to back in the Arkle you can lay that as well I expect it will be laid within the hour.

1.Martin Pipe Reurns started this thread. FACT 
2.You know nothing about me or how or what i've backed.FACT
3.You do not own any thread on here and i will post whenever i wish to.FACT
4.Eric Morris is a bullyboy who can't have a reasoned arguement and has to devile people on betting forums.OPINION(though such opinions are backed up by FACT)

Dickie Johnson wants him to run in the Arkle and knows the horse best, seems a no brainer now when all the major contenders, bar Ghizao, have shown jumping fallibilities and there are only 5 of them with a chance.

yup and bizare as what does it matter what we think? we dont own the bloddy thing

I'm not sure how anyone could make the case that CC goes better left handed than right? If you watch him closely round the bends at Sandown he really flies round them right handed, and if you add this to the right handed jumping it is clear to me at the moment at least that he has to go right handed. Anyway, I think the Scilly Isles was set up perfectly for him (good ground/2m4f/right handed), and will turn out in time to be a very high class result as a Grade 1 contest in time I'm sure of that. And I tend to agree that jumping into the back of Medermit at the third last looks like it lost him 3 to 4 lengths as well as momentum which ultimately cost him the race and did very well to finish where he did. But having said all this (and having been talked into backing him small for the Arkle) I could just not have him for the Arkle whatsoever, the whole race just will not suit him at all. I'd be keener on him over 2 miles at a wide riht handed galloping track like Punchestown, but what I really think he is going to suit perfectly is The King George in a couple of years.

Dickie Johnson wants to ride him in the Arkle he knows best from the saddle what he is capable of and his runs behind the best jumper we have seen, Ghizao on ground softer than CChris wants, which will be faster March and bring him and Ghizao closer together possibly switching the result.