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By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 11 Mar 11 16:37
Horse is a chaser who doesn't settle and wants soft ground.

(Lay pre race and green up jumping the 2nd.)
By:
Gashboy13
When: 11 Mar 11 16:44
keep guessing Johnny the Guesser. HOW ON EARTH you can think he needs soft ground in unbelieveable. I have never seen a NH Hunt move this well in all my life. You won't get the chance to green out. Anyway only mugs and **** Green Out.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 11 Mar 11 16:58
So you agree he's a chasing type who doesn't settle then? - Not an ideal Supreme type for me.

I think his action indicates he would prefer softer ground.
By:
rhinestone
When: 11 Mar 11 17:02
You think Sprinter Sacre has a soft ground action?

Spirit Son is the one with a massive soft ground action, and as much as I like BJG (who say's Spirit Son will like better ground) I'll believe it when I see it.

Not seen a knee action like Spirit Son's since Coolnagorna.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 11 Mar 11 17:05
He is a good horse and has a chance...If I can cover him in the race by laying just before the off and then banging in a 'keep' back bet 2 or 3 points higher...which I think will get matched before they've jumped the 2nd then I'd be a mug not to.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 11 Mar 11 17:11
I agree with Gashboy. The whole razzamatazz of Cheltenham might get to him and the course might not suit. However, to suggest that he needs soft ground is nonsense. He is a very good mover and NH allowed him to run on ground at Ayr last Spring which was quicker than that he will encounter on Tuesday.

I'd be more worried about Spirit Son's ability to act on it - he's uproven.
By:
flyingbolt
When: 11 Mar 11 17:18
If Sprinter Sacre needs soft ground I'll give the game up.
By:
Gashboy13
When: 11 Mar 11 17:26
As will I. I do agree he's a chaser, however plenty of chaser have won and placed in this before. Including Best Mate and War of Attrition who were both Gold Cup winners. I also agree he hasn't settled to date, however the pace was very slow at Ascot, and when it was better at Ffos Las he settled better, so that can be overcome. NH is a master with horses like this, just look at Soldatino last year. But soft ground is not what he needs, he blooming floats.
By:
Dr Martin Luther King
When: 11 Mar 11 17:29
Nice horse who will collect the bronze medal behind CUE CARD and AL FEROF.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 11 Mar 11 17:55
Has BG's decision been formally announced to the press yet?

Can't see it anywhere.

Anyone else a bit surprised that 2 days on this hasn't been announced to the press? Maybe it isn't a done deal.
By:
Gashboy13
When: 11 Mar 11 17:58
Will be Spirit Son. Rumours NH said at previews and market wiould indicate so.
By:
Masterminded
When: 11 Mar 11 18:07
Hendo said at a preview night that Barry rides Spirit Son. I find it strange that nothing has been mentioned to the press yet!?
By:
Gashboy13
When: 11 Mar 11 18:09
Be in Hendo's column tomorrow as top story. Nap.
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 11 Mar 11 19:38
We need perpective Barry cannot decide and you get a biiger price with AP on...no problems with that
By:
Masterminded
When: 11 Mar 11 23:39
Well here it is from the atr website just to confirm.

Barry Geraghty admitted on Friday night that he had made “the hardest call of my career” in choosing Spirit Son over Sprinter Sacre in the Stan James Supreme Novice Hurdle which opens next week’s Cheltenham Festival.

He revealed the dilemma that he has faced over recent weeks and said: “This is something that I’ve been trying to get my head around for three weeks. Both horses worked last Saturday and each went really well which didn’t make things any easier.

“I just had to go away and think it through. I watched endless re-runs of all their races and went through all their form.

“They are both exceptional talents and they could hardly have been more impressive on their latest outings but in the final analysis Spirit Son’s form just weighs in that bit stronger.”

Sprinter Sacre came home on the bit when winning at 30-100 at Ascot on his latest start and Geraghty has ridden the five-year-old in all five career starts, including two winning bumpers and just one defeat on his reappearance at Ascot in November.

He has been on the unbeaten Spirit Son when winning both hurdle starts this year following a win at Auteuil in September.

He continued: “It’s very hard to evaluate a horse winning on the bridle as Sprinter Sacre has done so I could very easily have got this wrong — he does everything so very easy.

“But when you break down Spirit Son’s latest win at Exeter it matches up with the best. He beat Cedre Bleu 21 lengths at Exeter and that horse had previously gone to Newbury and beaten our useful juvenile Titan De Sarti by ten lengths and he’s right up there in the betting for the Fred Winter.

“AP’s certainly landed himself a top class spare ride on Sprinter Sacre but it’s not just about us two, there is that little matter of last year’s bumper winner, Cue Card!”
By:
buddeliea
When: 12 Mar 11 06:13
well that tells me that either horse could win,so am happy with my bet on sprinter,but as i have said i will be backing spirit as a saver.
By:
Rondetto
When: 12 Mar 11 06:53
Was it really ever in any doubt?...Hardest decision of his career my toot. Good Drama at it's best. How come everyone and their uncle new Barry made his mind up when he got off Spirit Son after beating Cedre Blue ?Laugh Only reason it wasn't made public is they wanted to see how they worked prior to the big day. Weren't exactly flip flopping in the betting were they?

Not a hard decision at all. Spirit Son is a much more forward type ready to take on the big boys whereas Spirit Sacre is potentially a chaser and an Arkle horse what's so difficult about deciding which would be best for the Supreme.

The biggest certainty in the race is  AP won't be knocking lumps out of him  if he come under pressure before the 2nd last. Lovely horse with a huge future ahead of him and will be well looked after.

Good luck though to anyone who backed him. You can never tell he could find it all a bit to quick for him but then again they could easily find him a bit too quick for them as he does travel really well.

Both teams should lay Cue Card that way your certain not to lose because one of these two will win IMO
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 12 Mar 11 07:30
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Nice horse who will collect the bronze medal behind CUE CARD and AL FEROF

Al Ferof doesnt have the speed for this and should be in the Neptune. Extremely confident either of Hendo's will blow him away.
By:
grocerjack
When: 12 Mar 11 07:30
Think I read on one of the Chelt preview threads that Buckley had put pressure on BG,that he was to ride Spirit Son if he wanted to keep ride on his others.Must check this though.
By:
Rondetto
When: 12 Mar 11 07:42
Paper never rufuses ink mate? I doubt if Buckley would do such a thing or lost any sleep over it with AP waiting in the wings
By:
bring on chelt!!!
When: 12 Mar 11 08:24
Drama over and Champion jockey on board....hardly tragic news and every chance
By:
GI MAC
When: 12 Mar 11 08:29
Indeed, either way we have a top jock on board. Cannot wait for the race, lets hope for the usual frenetic pace and this one just cruises round. Can't wait to see him up against Cue Card.
By:
Dr Martin Luther King
When: 12 Mar 11 09:34
AL ferof will give CUE CARD a nice lead to the home bend where the hendo bridal ponces will be a spent force having never experienced a brutal festival race before and neither will have the requisite tools in the box to deal with it at this stage of their respective careers. The race will be all over before the last. Nicholls grey will plug admirably on for scond place.

Ive had a dream Cool
By:
Masterminded
When: 12 Mar 11 09:41
Last year everyone was calling Menorah a bridle ponce and a flat track bully. It's quite interesting if you watch A Bromleys view on the horses on the betfair preview video. He bought both of them.
By:
GI MAC
When: 12 Mar 11 10:33
Masterminded, It's probaly staring me in the face but I cant find the prevew video you mention, can you post the link, thanks.
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Mar 11 10:50
14/1 Coral's NRNB - thats some reaction!!!

As good as Paddy Power's Cue Card offer is 14/1 could be the ew bet of the meeting!!
By:
Masterminded
When: 12 Mar 11 11:40
GI MAC http://bit.ly/fZ76qL
By:
Masterminded
When: 12 Mar 11 11:41
It's quite good but like all of these things you have to take their views with a pinch of salt IMO
By:
wellchief
When: 12 Mar 11 12:09
Good videos Masterminded

Nicholls seems really keen on Spirit Son, and he should know through the lines with his horses.
By:
Jack_Kray
When: 12 Mar 11 12:11
So Young's price has crashed all round this morning in the Supreme which has contributed to Sacre's drift as well as the jockey news

Dunno what Mullins intends doing with SY - his price crashed in the Neptune as well
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 12 Mar 11 19:54
14/1 Coral's NRNB - thats some reaction!!!

Back to 10's. Somebody's obviously had £50EW........
By:
Gashboy13
When: 13 Mar 11 15:59
I like Willie Mullins, but every year is the same. Stop messing about and aim it at a race then only change your plans if the conditions are wildly different to what was expected. All along he's said ZP Supreme, and Neptune for SY. Now for no apparent reason other than that he fancies messing about he's considering swapping them. FWIW I actually think SY would be better in the Supreme, but this could have been stated a long time ago.
By:
Rondetto
When: 13 Mar 11 17:55
I had jumped on Spirit Son very early but was a wee bit concerned when I saw he was going to take on Cedre Blue.

I had replayed his win over Titan De Sarte who was a big talking horse at Sevenbarrows and he simply galloped him into the ground.

While Cedre Blue is without doubt a chasing type he still has a very high cruising speed but Spirit Son went passed him like he was a tree.

You could argue Cedre Blue never ran his race but it was still a very likeable performance.

Comes as no surprise PN fancies him as no doubt he feels Cedre Blue has a big future ahead of him.
By:
Dr Martin Luther King
When: 13 Mar 11 19:03
Cant believe punters are still trying to get CUE CARD beat Cry

Thanks anyway [;)]
By:
unclepuncle
When: 15 Mar 11 14:35
Traded at 1.3 in runningCry
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Mar 11 14:57
might trade shorter at Aintree i.m.o ,just failed to get home ..Sad
By:
unclepuncle
When: 15 Mar 11 15:02
Still wish Barry had ridden it.
By:
GI MAC
When: 15 Mar 11 15:30
Thought McCoy got there too early
By:
unclepuncle
When: 15 Mar 11 15:41
There is no question about thatShocked
By:
charwell.
When: 15 Mar 11 15:58
Gutted, backed this one and never traded out - looked all over the winner and agree produced a tad too early, although soundly beaten at the finish. If he recovers from his exerions I would back him at Aintree every day of the week to beat exactly the same field as ran here today Sad
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