Brampour entered at Sandown on Saturday.

no mention of indian daudaie? backed it a few weeks ago for the triumph and dan skelton posted a video of it schooling today so guessing its ready to be unleashed soon? nicholls mentioned it in his column when he said to wait and see if brampour lives up to expectation before believing the hype. indian daudaie won an 18k hurdle in france and then was 2nd in 107k grade 1, sounds interesting...

Sam Loser tomorrow. Smad Place for the Triumph.

Brampour likely to run at Kempton on the 15th Jan. Also got an entry for Monday at Taunton but unlikely to take up the entry. This one is flying at home trust me.

Never have a decent bet on the Triumph, might chuck a hundred quid at it sometimes but no more ... lottery normally antepost.

I'm inclined to believe Sam Winner and Smad Place are very equal horses after that and would not look to that form for anything imo. That race was a no race, slow pace, sprint. Don't be too dis-heartened if you have backed sam winner for the triumph though the race is looking more and more wide open the closer we get.

no truimph hurdle winners there though was there i had a feeling sam winner werent up to much when he was all out to bat pullyourfingerout last month hes first proper test and hes tailed off

grandouet or indian daudaie would be mine at the moment, or possibly brampour

oh yeh, that one aswel. have backed grandouet, indian daudaie, moose moran n dolatulo atm, and a small bet on trozulon after the bumper at cheltenham last week in case goes hurdling. a few covered but all at fair prices so all profit

Is it not too late now to be talking about if a horse is going to go hurdling? Cheltenham is only 1 month away with respects to trainers wanting to get decent gaps in between runs and to go to a championship race on the back on one run over obstacles is a bit of a mine field imo! Especially a race like the triumph!

cant have sam winner on my mind id be very surprised if he even turned up at cheltenham dident nicholls say after his last win at cheltenham that he needs softer ground after making heavy weather of winning there recently on a decent surface

not really seathestars SOLDATINO  dont it last season dident he trozulon = exactly the same connections

I still think Smad Place has a decent chance in the Triumph.

He looks a relentless galloper to me, who will love the Cheltenham hill. He just never had the turn of foot when it turned into a sprint today.

excuses excuses sj
sam winner makes impressive hurdling debut on SOFT ground
then makes very hard work of it beating a 110 animal on good/soft
nicholls stats after the race he NEEDS softer ground .then today on heavy ground and up against the toughest field hes faced hes found out NOT GOOD ENOUGH and his supports and the yard now say he wants good ground

make up ya mnd

Was hoping they might have pushed Smad Place out to neraer 20/1 - he was patently outpaced when the sprint began but stayed on wel, and a more robust test on better ground at Cheltenham will be much more to his liking. Might have a small bet at 14/1.

It was only Smads second run over hurdles, and he has just placed in a Grade 1.The others horse around him have more experience.

He was the first of the bridle yesterday but stayed on, and if there was one horse most unsuited by the slow early pace, it was him,imo.

If you watch his Newbury win, he gets better and better the further he goes. The horse is more stamina laden, than speed, which is why King compared him to Franchoek, as opposed to his more speedier previous Triumph winners.

A fast run race, and uphill finish will be right up his street at Cheltenham. I considered going in again yesterday, but do wonder if there  maybe one or two others with a touch of class come March that will beat him, so refrained.

I am far from downcast though and still happy with my bet at this stage. I expect Alan King will say something similar.

I wasnt convinced by Smad Place's first run. I didnt think he travelled as well as the pundits claimed after the race, and I felt he was flattered by the winning distance as Dolatulo stopped to a walk after clattering 2 out and SP just kept on galloping. After yday however I am coming round to him as a Triumph horse as a fast pace up the Cheltenham hill will suit his style imo.  He looks more like a Zaynar than a Walkon, however I am still not sure whether he will have the ability to win at the festival.

fwiw,i dont see any of those yesterday figuring

Grandouet beat A media Luz fairly and with ease, what of the horse that won a listed race first time out by 9L, beating Grandouet by 15L.Moai Chinn Tire still the value in the Triumph,TWICE the odds of others with less form.

Grandouet ran with the choke totally out at Wetherby but seems to have got his act together now...think that line of form with Maoi Chin Tire is best avoided in calculations. Would be my main choice and next target appears to be the Adonis Hurdle at Kempton which has provided plenty of Triumph winners recently. Only worry would be McCoy's comments that he may prefer a flat track?? Third Intention and Local Hero haven't done much wrong for me and appear as the value outsiders...would both be priced less if with sexier stables but their connections are more than capable.
Alas all the books have given up with offering first four in this race now :(

read somewhere that nicholls said cedre bleu was one to follow this season, might have said anthony bromley said to? cant remember, but is in triumph market, and based on all runs so far, i'd rather wait for that and indian daudaie to come out as think they could be special