*forgotten horses*

nackeredthink. GAUVAIN, QUASAR DOUDARIES and SHINING GALE are all back from injury and are all in training with nick williams

whatever happened to the second coming that was cappa bleu?

vpu,finished.

one or two in Nicholls stable tour that are back after being out a while.... American Trilogy, Breedsbreeze, Noland.

I wish Voy Por would be retired now.  Alan King has tried him on every track, going and trip possible and I think enough is enough, and give him a well deserved retirement before they do something stupid and put him in the National!

Horses I'm looking forward to seeing that are coming back from injury are WALKON, PRIDE OF DULCOTE and NEPTUNE COLLONGES. 

Also will be interesting to see how CRACK AWAY JACK is campaigned this year - Champion Chase, Ryanair?

Cant wait to see neptune collonges and noland.

FIVEFORTHREE

Forgettable (JPN)
Clouded Thoughts (IRE)
Wierd Al (Zeimers)

Nicholls thinks a lot of Pride of Dulcote. Not sure Ruby feels the same way

Duffy Cappa Bleu was messed up by trainer last season,doubt we will see same horse that won Foxhunters so impressively.

An Siorrac

Neptune Collognes

Money trix

American Trilogy is the one im looking forward to seeing. Entered up at the weekend!

Walkon

monsignor

WHAT'S up with these beauts !

AN SIORRAC......out for season with a leg injury-Irish Field 19/12/09.
ARALDUR........fractured his pelvis so plans on hold.
BENBANE HEAD....out for the season again ? tendon injury RP today.
CATCHING PIGEONS.....appeared to break down, hopefully just lame ?
CROZAN....sold so may have changed from Sue Smith's Stable ???
DEFINITY...has heat in a leg (P Nicholls).
GRACECHURCH.......any news after Fontwell yet ???
JACK THE GIANT.......due back ???
JOKERS LEGACY...........tendon problem.
KAZAL..........news ???
KRUGUYROVA....back in training, C Egerton ?????
MANOR PARK....strained a tendon, out for 12-15 months ????
MASTER OF ARTS......run over jumps this season ???
METAPHORIC...could actually be a very good staying hurdler but not been seen for a while ???
MICHEL LE BON....was out last season with heat in their tendon.
MISTER TOP NOTCH.....out last season, trained by Davy Fitzgerald.
NEVADA ROYALE...............any news ???
ON RAGLAN ROAD..........out for the season again ???
PLANET OF SOUND......Hobbs.
RUSSIAN AROUND.........Any news about Gifford’s horse.
SHINING GALE....fractured his near-fore pedal bone, any news ???
SHIRLEY CASPER......was on the easy list !
SNAP TIE....Suspensory problem.
STATE OF PLAY........ready for the National again.
SURFACE TO AIR.....having stem cell treatment. back yet ???
TAIPANS WAY........apparently was injured ???
TARABLAZE..........out all last season, still gutted ????
TARANIS (FR)....??? lightly raced last season !
THE LISTENER.......has he recovered from tendon injury.
TRAFFORD LAD....had 20% grade tendon trouble, Swinia ! (Butler Family Syndicate).
WILL BE DONE.......D McCain Jnr's, anyone know anything ?

Will Be Done died at Haydock last season



any news on Breedsbreeze?

think Kazals retired

From Philip Hobbs stable tour "Planet of Sound likely to start in the Betfair Chase or Amlin chase but not on soft or heavy. Might go for the King George but not sure track will suit" I don't think he has a problem.

Benbane Head is not out for the season - will be back racing in December

Araldur - Ran over hurdles at the end of last season, didnt he?

Definaty & Breedsbreeze - Both back in training.

Snap Tie- Wont be back until the spring, he may go straight to The Grand Annual.

TRAFFORD LAD....had 20% grade tendon trouble, Swinia ! (Butler Family Syndicate).

Returns to Down Royal on Saturday

does anybody know what has happened TURKO? hasnt been seen on course for well over a year

I may be wrong, but i thought Mr Top Notch had died - hope i'm wrong of course.

Mister Top Notch could have run his last race

BY BRIAN FLEMING6.20PM 22 NOV 2009

MISTER TOP NOTCH, whose career highlights include wins in the 2007 Grade 1 Dr P J Moriarty Novice Chase and last season's Pierse Leopardstown Handicap Chase, is out for the year and could have run his last race.

The ten-year-old had been earmarked for the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury on Saturday and on Sunday evening he was still quoted for the big race by several firms, with Paddy Power shortest at 16-1.

However, trainer Davy Fitzgerald said: "He came back lame from Navan and you won't see him again this year. It could even be it for him, you never know."

Marie Cronin's horse was remounted by Barry Geraghty after a fall at the penultimate flight when finishing a remote fifth behind Aitmatov in the Lismullen Hurdle 15 days ago.

"I thought he was just struggling turning in and I expected him to run better at Navan, to be honest," added Fitgerald. "There was something amiss with him and the fall probably helped  some of his old problems recur."

"That's the way it goes. We had some great days with him over the years and we're still hoping we might get him back, but only time will tell."

WHAT'S up with these beauts !

AN SIORRAC......out for season with a leg injury-Irish Field 19/12/09.
ARALDUR........fractured his pelvis so plans on hold until ???
BENBANE HEAD....tendon injury, will be back racing in December.
CATCHING PIGEONS.....appeared to break down, hopefully just lame ?
CROZAN....sold so may have changed from Sue Smith's Stable ???
DEFINITY...has heat in a leg (P Nicholls). "Back in training".
GRACECHURCH.......any news after Fontwell yet ???
JACK THE GIANT.......due back ???
JOKERS LEGACY...........tendon problem.
KAZAL..........news, retired ???
KRUGUYROVA....back in training, C Egerton ?????
MANOR PARK....strained a tendon, out for 12-15 months ????
MASTER OF ARTS......run over jumps this season ???
METAPHORIC...could actually be a very good staying hurdler but not been seen for a while ???
MICHEL LE BON....was out last season with heat in their tendon.
MISTER TOP NOTCH.....trained by Davy Fitzgerald. "...lame. It could even be it for him, you never know."... could have run his last race.
NEVADA ROYALE...............any news ???
ON RAGLAN ROAD..........out for the season again ???
PLANET OF SOUND.....Hobbs.."likely to start in the Betfair Chase".
RUSSIAN AROUND.........Any news about Gifford’s horse.
SHINING GALE....fractured his near-fore pedal bone, any news ???
SHIRLEY CASPER......was on the easy list ???
SNAP TIE....Suspensory problem. "Wont be back until the spring, he may go straight to The Grand Annual".
STATE OF PLAY........ready for the National again ???
SURFACE TO AIR.....having stem cell treatment. back yet ???
TAIPANS WAY........apparently was injured ???
TARABLAZE..........out all last season, still gutted ????
TARANIS (FR)....??? lightly raced last season !
THE LISTENER.......has he recovered from tendon injury.
TRAFFORD LAD....had 20% grade tendon trouble, Swinia ! (Butler Family Syndicate). "Returns to Down Royal on Saturday."
TURKO.....hasnt been seen on course for well over a year
WILL BE DONE.......D McCain Jnr's, died at Haydock last season.

We're left awaiting further news on these few beauts !

AN SIORRAC......out for season with a leg injury-Irish Field 19/12/09.
ARALDUR.....fractured his pelvis so plans on hold until ? Ran over hurdles at the end of last season, didn’t he ?
CATCHING PIGEONS.....appeared to break down, hopefully just lame ?
CROZAN....sold so may have changed from Sue Smith's Stable ???
GRACECHURCH.......any news after Fontwell yet ???
JACK THE GIANT.......due back ???
JOKERS LEGACY...........tendon problem.
KRUGUYROVA....back in training, C Egerton ?????
MANOR PARK....strained a tendon, out for 12-15 months ????
MASTER OF ARTS......run over jumps this season ???
METAPHORIC...could actually be a very good staying hurdler but not been seen for a while ???
MICHEL LE BON....was out last season with heat in their tendon.
MISTER TOP NOTCH.....trained by Davy Fitzgerald. "...lame. It could even be it for him, you never know."... could have run his last race…still hoping we might get him back, but only time will tell."
MONSIGNOR…….. tweedledumbtweedletwat ???
NEVADA ROYALE...............any news ???
ON RAGLAN ROAD..........out for the season again ???
RUSSIAN AROUND.........Any news about Gifford’s horse.
SHINING GALE....fractured his near-fore pedal bone, any news ???
SHIRLEY CASPER......was on the easy list ???
SNAP TIE....Suspensory problem. "Wont be back until the spring, he may go straight to The Grand Annual".
STATE OF PLAY........ready for the National again ???
SURFACE TO AIR.....having stem cell treatment. back yet ???
TAIPANS WAY........apparently was injured ???
TARABLAZE..........out all last season, still gutted ????
TARANIS (FR)....??? lightly raced last season !
THE LISTENER.......has he recovered from tendon injury.
TURKO.....hasnt been seen on course for well over a year
WALKON…… Luke01 ???

Tarablaze ran in a beginners chase last week at Bangor. Was 3rd.

Go Native, totally forgotten.

Shining Gale ran off 149 (from memory) and won despite injury last timem it ran. I think this horse has got Grand National written all over it (probably 2012) if they can avoid winning anything decent over fences. Be thrilled if Nick Williams can get it back he is a superb trainer.

The other forgotten horse for me is Aces Four - a real shame we never got to see the best of him.

Also whatever happened to Vicario de Bray and Grey Salute? 1989 Tote Gold Trophy now there was a race.

One of only a few horses to beat Menorah

Step forward Bobby Ewing!

Or rather, don't. Wait for good ground and the Coral Cup at the festival, with a bit of Twiston-Davies masterpiece training.

I thought I saw somewhere Bobby was sold @ the sales & is in training with D.Pipe ?

Thought he was out injured for the season roger!

Aint it always the way.

Barker - Get on him first time out this season

When is Noland due back - still only 9 and lightly raced would be good to see him again.

Dunguib.....not beaten that far and could improve

NOLAND.....two entries in December

Day Of A Lifetime (W P Mullins) was Mr P W Mullins choice (10/1) when last seen in the champion bumber in March




What ever becomes of ALL those Mullins so called stars ???

Just to add to the *forgotten* list? Maybe someone could answer my question on the following :

Willie Mullins:
Sesenta,
Fixed Fee (noted him as one to follow for last season)
Cousin Vinny
Fiveforthree - possible threat to Big Bucks if gets back

United - Lucy Wadham
Big Eared Fran - David Pipe
Jazz Messenger - Noel Meade

Got Racing Ahead and Cappa Bleu is going back to PtP's / Hunters. Aim imng for Chelters.

An Siorrac i cant wait to see either.

any updates on Copper Bleu?

Any news on Rite of Passage.  Is he being kept for the flat?

Presume it will be a walk in the (Enterprise) Park today

Picture This

rite of passage will not be running over hurdles this season,been kept for flat campaign,
somebody told me voy pour ustedes has been retired,though i think sir robert ogden has given up the jumps game,never see his colours anymore,

Sir Des Champs ?

What ever becomes of ALL those Mullins so called stars ??? [:D]

Neptune winner imho

Just watched 'Scotsirish' (Mullins as well) win the same race back in '07. (He went for the Ballymore afterwards !)

Rippling Ring, was supposed to be the next big thing out of South Africa!

Remember it being backed to single figures to win the supreme and actually ran ok in the end considering it was Captain Cee Bee/Binocular's Supreme

DAY out again on sunday [:x]

so was Pierrot Lunaire marvinho
both didnt end up very good

Raptor for the AlberT B ?

Back In Focus (8) , Join Together (10) , Court In Motion (11) , Bobs Worth (12) , Kilcrea Kim (13) , Champion Court (14) , Sybarite (20) , Habbie Simpson (23) , Allee Garde (25) , Gagewell Flyer (25) , Mossley (25) , Raptor (25) , Westmeath (25) , Moonlight Drive (33) , Mount Helicon (33) , White Star Line (33) , Bishopsfurze (35) , For Non Stop (35) , Our Island (35) , Tornado Bob (35)  - Others 35 or more

Mister Top Notch could have run his last race

BY BRIAN FLEMING6.20PM 22 NOV 2009

MISTER TOP NOTCH, whose career highlights include wins in the 2007 Grade 1 Dr P J Moriarty Novice Chase and last season's Pierse Leopardstown Handicap Chase, is out for the year and could have run his last race.

The ten-year-old had been earmarked for the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury on Saturday and on Sunday evening he was still quoted for the big race by several firms, with Paddy Power shortest at 16-1.

However, trainer Davy Fitzgerald said: "He came back lame from Navan and you won't see him again this year. It could even be it for him, you never know."

Marie Cronin's horse was remounted by Barry Geraghty after a fall at the penultimate flight when finishing a remote fifth behind Aitmatov in the Lismullen Hurdle 15 days ago.

"I thought he was just struggling turning in and I expected him to run better at Navan, to be honest," added Fitgerald. "There was something amiss with him and the fall probably helped  some of his old problems recur."

"That's the way it goes. We had some great days with him over the years and we're still hoping we might get him back, but only time will tell."

a lazarus type recovery from Mister Top Notch,ran a decent race in defeat just now  in a Hunters Chase at Fairyhouse

Realt  Dubh   -  my information is that despite not running in
10 months he will be in a seven runner champion chase

Think 2 miles is too short for Realt Dubh personally

Trainer implied they were favouring the Ryanair in the RP last Saturday.

I  totally agree but if I owned him I  would chance the Queen mother - massive place prize money with few runners

to Strontium - owner does not want another continuation of saga
with noble prince - think there was some father son problems last year - 4 races 4 wins realt dubh

Sword Of Destiny, Noel Meade has forgetten he's a racehorse