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That run was so horrible however I think this young horse will develop into something very very special.
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Seems pretty much all Alan king's horses badly in need of first run so wouldnt pass judgement on any until seen out again
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Well. I was wrong. His handicap mark might start 12 now!!!
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Promising .. assuming what you say is correct (and I'm generalising not just for this yard by the way) does that suggest they are fat or unfit or could be fitter or something else. What exactly does in need of a FIRST run mean? How do the BHA interpret in need of a run? Perhaps somebody who knows more about these wonderful animals could explain. I cannot understand why Pipie in his prime could get them right up first time plater or group 1. Am I missing something?
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different trainers have different methods....dont think there are many horses which dont tighten up for a first run back however much you try and get them fit on the gallops and everyone bets knowing that's the case; also sometimes a string can be behind as alan king's seem to be (rough generalisation) but with the season getting going it's best for his owners to get them on the racecourse provided fit enough to do justice and not cause an injury and help plan a campaign. Doing the best for one's owners is a relevant concern too (not that i have ever had a horse with alan king btw)...i know you'll say the best for one's owners is having them cherry ripe first time out but not necessarily - you want to bring a horse on gradually and see where you are with the whole season in mind, esp younger horses, not necesarily blow their brains first time out...
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ps - deadloss - neither of us dropped...we were hoping for a pound or 2...
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All I would add to that is there are no prizes, awards or big races to be won in October...
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Well done today with Mille Chief.
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Surprised that today's performance has not made more ripples for the Champion. Clearly, this was a long way off a Champion Hurdle, but he was scarcely even shaken up, and hurdled particularly fluently. Won off a rating only a few pounds lower than when Menorah won the Greatwood, and, despite the ground, won at his leisure. Its probable that this was the first time we've seen the "real" Mille Chief that Alan King has been so bullish about for so long and he looks a very credible outsider to me. Wouldn't be surprised to hear that he diverts from the Totesport (his weight might well rocket for that now) and heads for one of the trials instead. (Salden Licht looks a likely King candidate for the Totesport). I'm nibbling away at around 40, and am happy to have him in my portfolio for the race, while accepting that its beginning to look red hot.
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well done deadloss - you have something special there. up to 3 miles for us - always going a bit too fast for us but jumped well and stayed on at same pace
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Without being dissrespectfull,what has this beat at sandown? i must admit this was a pleasure on the eye and a very decent weight carrying performance but in truth to my mind has beat trees and trees that didnt like the going one jot.A knee jerk reaction to a bloody good display but if all goes where i expect,then im a layer not a player
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King also potentially has Manyriverstocross for the Totesport Trophy.
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Mille Chief is likely to go up to at least 155 next Tuesday when the revised weights come out. They put Salden Licht up 10lbs to 152 for winning a small race at Exeter and surely that will make life very difficult for either of them in the Totesport.
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It seems clear from his comments after the race that the trainer thinks the world of this horse however it seems a strange piece of placing yesterday which is going to result in the horse being saddled with a significant rise in the weights well before the Tote Gold Trophy entries are out, if that is indeed the target as reported.
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It seemd clear from the trainers comments before the race that he thinks teh world of it. I didnt bet it but if the horse is as good as he thinks he should be able to take a 10-12lbs lift in weights and still be competative.
For me the totesport is more about giving him experiance in a top class big field race. |
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I am sure he will still be competitive.....my guess is he will go up be at least 12lbs for the victory yesterday, but there is a difference in being competitive and actually winning. They must have know he was well handicapped yesterday, they have picked up a decent hike for the sake of 9k and a few winning bets probably. I don't know the last horse to win at Newbury off a mark higher than 150, certainly not in the last 10-15 years although Rooster Booster went close off 166. He was the reigning Champion Hurdler at the time though. I backed Mille Chief ante-post for the Ladbroke Hurdle at Ascot but didn't have a shilling on yesterday due to fears about the weight he was carrying in the ground so perhaps this might sound like sour grapes but I feel his chance at Newbury has been comprimised by the win yesterday, time will tell. |
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I agree 100% that his chance most probably has been comprimised but for me I think its ore improtant for connection that he gets the experiance he needs before March that what handicaps he wins.
Im just pleased for connections as they have had a rough time of it the last year or so. |
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Interesting that in today's RP, Choc also volunteers that it might be a good idea to bypass the Totesport for a Cheltenham trial. Suspect that is the way they will go.
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