BENSALEM

assuming that diamond harry goes elsewhere or even with him in the race?

cant jump,end of chance!

too little experience id say. im 99 percent sure nick williams will have his jumping much better than last season. bensalem has never beat DH

can jump will jump will win FACT

oh sorry, i thought that comment by the ballydoyle inmate was about diamond harry. I do think bensalem is a very good horse. how much less than diamond harry is he rated over fences do you know?

Will have to settle for 2nd behind Weird Al

Bensalem, Weird Al reverse forcast NAP.

Is trafford lad back from injury cuz there's the combination tricast!

Diamond Harry 156 v Bensalem 143 at Chelt last year on BHA ratings.

Not sure how they will sit currently after both failing to finish.

^ hmmm big danger I agree. im going to look at the ratings

Bensalem 143
Diamond Harry 156
Weird Al 154

soz wird al 140

Weird Al**********

I now agree TD Weird Al is gna hack up

Bensalem off 143 in the paddy power would be aknock out bet, especialoly if as njh says long run and mad max run (158 or so?)

Without a doubt, a well schooled BENSALEM is going to be well-handicapped if going straight for the Hennessey. Will he have a pipe-opener?

But I expect David Pipe to send THE PACKAGE to the race as well and try an repeat his win with Madison Du Berlais. Don't overlook OGEE, ANY CURRENCY or WEIRD AL. And there are others such as BALLABRIGS, GALLANT NUIT, PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE who will also go to the race with a chance.

But, given what I've seen on the racecours to date, for me its WEIRD AL.

trainer isn't confident that the hennessy would suit weird al...ballabriggs probably won't see a fence until the national....so i'm hoping that kempes is sent over and wins.

diamond harry with brushed up jumping will be better than bensalem over fences but bensalems mark is very good for the hennessy. i hope diamond harry is put in the irish hennessy, john durkan and lexus

hes a woeful jumper it has to be said!!good horse but wont carry my money!!

gl

yeah i know but i think he would have been much better last season had he started off as a chaser. if hes goin to win grade one chases then i think the irish ones would be the easiest

Bensalem won't be in the Hennessy. Has had pneumonia and pleurisy since coming back from his summer break. While they're happier with him now, it will be the New Year before he runs.

Cyclops, is this genuine info?

Think this horse will line up in Gold Cup this year

What makes you think that?
It's not impossible neill but, let's be honest, the horse has a mountain to climb before then!

there was worrying summer for the Bensalem team but the good news from Alan a few weeks ago was that Bensalem who developed pneumonia and pleurisy after being hit with a bout of travel sickness on the way back from his summer holiday in Ireland, has returned and is well on the road to recovery.


Bensalem returned from the vets is making good progress. Obviously, it is too early to make predictions about the season ahead, but it is a case of so far so good.

dont know what his targets are.

hope this helps.

I believe he has now been ridden for the first time which is amazing considering the news the last time I was at the yard.

dont think hes ever going to be as good as diamond harry, id say he will be a high end handicapper

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I believe he has now been ridden for the first time which is amazing considering the news the last time I was at the yard.

thats great to hear i heard about him being back in training a few weeks ago.

iv been trying to get news on Pantxoa have you heard much about him?

thanks.

reve - please! do you take the newbury novice form literally? but for the mistake at the cross fence, imo Ben would have destroyed DH.

o dear glad to hear hes back and getting better! I would think he will bypass the hennessey then. hopefully see him in the new year

r carver. DH has beaten bensalem 3 times from 3 runs. Bensalem is not being pulled back or anything and their both sketchy jumpers(last year) so i cant see bensalem being better than DH anytime.

Bensalem would had beaten DH if he had not smashed the cross fence at newbury and i am DH's biggest fan.

diamond harry made mistakes in newbury too and i think if they both jumped fluently then DH would have won. i think its fair to say that neither horse jumped well last season and with that in wind dh has won 3 from 3. i think that speeks for itself but i do think that if both horses went for a handicap for the first race of the season then bensalem would wi as hes better handicapped!

Not sure I agree with that Reve, but only time will tell! I like your enthusiasm for the Williams horses, he is a top trainer.

yeah top class isnt he. Im only a young lad(less than 25) and my plan is to get rich. Dont ask me how...for 2 reasons.1 Im not quite sure how to go about it yet and 2. i wudnt tell any1 if i came up with a world beating idea. Anyway, when i do get rich i will definately have horses in trainin with the mighty mr williams... and im irish. unbelievable how good his string is considering they have all been bought for less than about 20000. he has some new ones that cost a little more though(max of 35000) so it will be very interesting to see whats to come

I quite agree reve - he's very good, I like the way he goes about it - and good luck getting rich, backing his horses selectively is a good plan.

I have to say im very selective(dont mean to sound arrogant) but im not sure if its the best way of getting rich. i think youd need to be very disciplined. i think theres a lot of money to be made though, only really on betfair i think.i really hope diamond harry will be a top class chaser and i think very good odds are on offer for a horse like him who has disappointed on his last run but clearly has ability. I mostly bet on horses from this yard because i am very interested in it and so read a lot about it and study it a bit too. I think from reading articles about nick williams and listening to his reactions to various races that he will give the ride on diamond harry to daryl jacob

I think Diamond loves Newbury, is best fresh (thats the time to catch him imo), and is potentially much better than his chase profile so far suggests. He'll be interesting at Newbury, wont carry my money i dont think, but imo if he is ever going to scoop a big pot, this could be it (assuming that is his target). Btw, i agree, being selective is the key, though i know some think its based on turnover. Good luck RDS.

bound to be fresh as nick williams has learned hes only a 3 to 4 running horse per season. good luck

Does everyone agree Weird Al will win it.

Trainers confident to say the least...

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smashin horse and hope he can win a big race for noel fehilys sake. good rider is noel

What has the trainer said about Weird Al please MAL?

Guys, where are you getting these ratings from? I've got new official ratings as follows

Weird Al - Moved from 140 to 152
Diamond Harry - Moved from 156 to 152
Bensalem - Still on 143 over fences (but now 153 over hurdles)

I think Bensalem is definitely well handicapped. I was one of Diamond Harry's biggest fans last season, but I'm doubting whether he has the scope to make it right to the top and I can see him struggling as a second season chaser. Hope he proves me wrong though, no doubting his engine.

ryan theres a video on youtube from the open day at nick williams that u might b interested in. just type in diamond harry and it will come up...

Lol just watched it. Would of been nice to see him jump some fences or something, all I could take from it was that he still has 4 legs . He is only 7 though, so you'd hope there was more to come.

i know yeah. they said he had gotten more muscley but didnt look the biggest. having said that he always did look quite skinny

I don't think I've ever heard a trainer say 'the horse has shrunk' though to be honest! So I never really know what to take from it when I hear 'the horse has strengthened over the summer', because I seem to hear it for every horse

yeah i no wat u mean. he didnt look much bigger in the video anyhow. Id say daryl jacob will ride him this year judging by nick williams enthusiasm when he talks about him. just have the feeling

Weird Al has a great chance imo.

There is just so much improvement in him, i just hope they can keep him sound.

how did he get injured?

kauto-kauto

Re - Pantxoa.

What do you want to know?

hows he taken to being in the yard? seen The Dunkley & Reilly Partnership  has bought him.

been trying to find some info on him but havnt heard anything.


cheers.