spirit river enterd at chelt on friday.2m5f novice chase,another clue??

Both could be and he could also win the Feltham, like Long Run, before the Kingmaker at Warwick, like Long Run. By this time, Finian's Rainbow may have shown what he did last year (that he does a lot more on the bridle than off it), and Henderson may then run his best novice chaser who's 2 from 2 at Cheltenham in the Arkle. Surely he won't make the mistake with Spirit River he made with Long Run and Punchestowns, either of whom would have been better suited to the Arkle and who may still not have recovered from their exertions in the RSA Chase.

if I feel confidnet about something, I back it, and you can have 25/1 about SR right now, I just find it a bit odd, that is all.

Not telling you what to do or anything Booster. We are all bettors here.

Booster,i admire you faith,even when everything is pointing to you getting this wrong,you still persevere.
Hats off to you in that respect.

now i have a question for you,

Are you a bit concerned that it appears that FR is being campaigned over 2m and SR is being campaigned over further??

Buddeleia, I would obviously prefer them to be going over 2 miles but this situation is not without precedent. Alan King brought My Way De Solzen back to 2 miles to win an Arkle, Tidal Bay was touted as an RSA Chase horse before he won and Henderson only decided to step Long Run back up in trip, which I think was a mistake, after he won the Kingmaker.

I think the stable have targeted this race with the wrong types in recent years and, forgive me if I'm wrong, haven't got a great recent record in it. I thibk Remittance Man was their last winner.

I've obviously got to hope things transpire my way but can honestly see that happening.

If going 3 miles plus for the RSA you're going to bump into Time For Rupert, Wayward Prince et al and they're bruising stayers. That would be completely the wrong race for a horse with his speed (in my opinion only).

The only other option might be the Ryanair bur he's very inexperienced for that race and can't see it.

Sintonian, if he runs at the weekend I will back him before that run as I expect the trainer to come out afterwards and say he could be an Arle horse, "Barry couldn't believe the speed he showed" etc. He's a machine although I can believe the other horse may show more on the gallops as he's a showy flashy type who can do it on the bridle.

fair comments boost,and you are correct that some are bought back in trip for the race.You also make a fair point re Time for Rupert etc.
We obviously dont know for sure where he will end up,it seems to me that it all points to longer race at the moment,but as you say,that could change.

Must be 10 yr ago yeah, and i think he walked through every fence too...!

wonder if he took a knock when othermix fell

Timeform report that he has a cut on one of his legs.

What now ben10?

By: ben10

Thought he jumped quite well today bar the obvious mistake. Not worth giving up on...

By: This user is offline. eric_morris

They all jump well unitl the obvious mistake mate. Celestial Halo has made 2 obvious mistakes in 2 races now.

By: ben10

Don't think he's merely made 2 obvious mistakes, Halo never looked a natural to me, not seeing the right stride or anything.

By: This user is offline. Reyes

tried to go long, stuttered into it, couldn't get legs down quick enough. i'd actually put that down to jockey error as much as the horse. totally diff mistakes to the ones CH makes/made

By: This user is offline. eric_morris

The good uns often find a way of standing up even after a blunder like that. These 2 dont look natural to me and both need 2m 4f minimum. Celestial should be going back staying hurdling imo.

By: This user is offline. eric_morris

Not questioning the horses ability but jumping is the be all and end all upon which the rest is based. Not too worrying unless he repeats it next time out like Celestial. Anyone who hasnt backed him the Festival should watch his next run first before getting a position on the 2m 4f race.

Excellent piece of judgement by Flyingbolt. Probably the only time I have ever known him put his neck on the line and he declares that Sprirt River will be a Grade 1 horse. Perhaps the crown is slippinhg. Shroooooooooood.

just watched it.....my guess is that plenty looking to give him an excuse will say the interference nailed him.....the fact is though , that up to that point he was not travelling or jumping with any fluency........one thing to come out of this race is that we should have no more nonsence about finian's rainbow being inferior to this horse.

Reve De Sivola great form boost for Time For Rupert there and over a trip short of Rupert's best.

Panto Prince

Only one thing wworse than a clueless twaat and thats an AFTERTIMING clueless twaat.

Little point in that the horse did a full somersault there ... he is not good enough at fencing to win races half as good as those he could win back over hurdles.

Read it all above in context ben10.

Yes, unfortunately some of us make mistakes [;)]

SR was not looking like a winner before the fall of other mix. Caught the top of a few of them.  TBH, if they had all stood up, the way he was travelling he still may have come last.

The race had some many doubts about, Reve De receiving 8lb from a has that was nearly brought down, I wouldn't be in a rush to claim it as a form boost.

I hope Booster did not stick to his word and back SR before todays run.

Which Grade One race do you think Spirit River will be winning at the Festival this year Flyingbolt? Best stick to what you do best - rubbishing other people's opinions rather than providing original thought of your own. Exposed as a guesser I am afraid on the only prospective opinion you have ever put up on here. Simply guessing which horses will be Grade One performers based on the fact that you like the colours or the way their mane has been plaitted isnt really what people want to read.

By the way there is a lovely grey running in the King George on Boxing Day - perhaps you could puut your £2 on that?

[u]If you could point me in the direction of you ever making a valid opinion on anything I'd appreciate it[/u].

A tacit admission that you have never made one yourself. You are coming to the end of your useful time on here mate. Do us all a favour and just do one.

I notice you had nothing positive to say about the Richard Davies signed racecard thread did you? If you can't be bitter or slag someone off you just aren't interested. Sad man /woman/hermaphrodite (1.4 the latter)