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Cheltenham Festival
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Festival antepost investments to avoid
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best lay ever is sang bleu for whatever he runs in. nicholls talks him up to be the pest thimg since bacon and cabbage but it wouldnt be the first time he did. i dont think hes as good as hes made out to be and he certainly never showed any signs of class last year
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Cabbage.
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CVByrne Joined: 14 Mar 06
Replies: 627 22 Sep 10 23:00 SatelliteFlight 22 Sep 10 21:08 some sh|te being wrote on this thread imo Agreed, eric_morris is this years biodiesel. Total clueless muppet that won't shut up. CVByrne - I can't believe you've only just twigged (thanks to my post in the aftertimimg thread) that Eric Morris is the new identity of Kirk-St Moritz - who can forget the inordinately long and insightful threads on Zaynar and Steinbeck  PS. I bet he says something about my bets on the Cheltenham Going  |
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I'm a jumps only man so have been away since early may so missed the whole summer name change. Though it makes perfect sense now that he's been unmasked.
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Lads not quoting Celestial Storm for the Arkle after his introduction today ... that 10/1 original general quote across all bookies looking really really dire now. If he does stay over fences a big big chance he would go for the new 2m4f novice chase instead. First post on thread below.
Right lets start with the Arkle Chase: You are looking for a young horse who wasnt necessarily exceptional over hurdles but who has a flair for fencing. In that respect it is always worth taking a look at your horse over the larger obstacles before moving in for a position. Look for a good turn of pace mainly as when they kick 2 out it doesnt matter what they did over hurdles without this kick they are left dead in the water in an Arkle. That makes an early investment in the one-paced Celestial Halo and Medermit very poor value at 10/1. Particularly in the case of Celestial Halo he wont be able to grind it over fences as he did over hurdles you ideally want a horse who can cruise in behind then go for it late. |
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no surprised i give Celestial Storm absolutely no chance in the Arkle
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I would appreciate if Desmond apologises for his aggressive stance earlier in this thread ...
 Desmond Orchard 23 Sep 10 16:18 However, given that this is ante-post betting and the likelihood of a horse falling by the wayside is priced in, then I don't see how you can possibly suggest that backing a horse like CH, whose stated aim is the Arkle, is a bad investment. If it all goes to plan he'll go off under 3s. Which were the highest rated hurdlers, aimed (with certainty of intention) at the Arkle, to have fallen by the wayside in recent years? Can't think of any off the top of my head, rather like you couldn't think of too many hurdlers rated under 140 to have won it. |
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and you lad you gobsh1te ...
SatelliteFlight 22 Sep 10 21:08 some sh|te being wrote on this thread imo |
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Oh and uncle puncle ... this thread is for people who bet, not for purely arbers like youself so you are probably best giving it a miss. It wont be safe enough for you it may take big cahhonas as well as antepost knowledge.
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Oi oi ... Medermit now 16s after refusing this week. Celestial Halo may shorten from 16s but 10s was not a good initial investment not having seen him jump a fence as nothing has shown flair to get a grip of the market yet.
Also after todays run Long Run is a poor investment for the Ryanair. He doesnt look to have enough finishing pace at the very top level though he travels really well and jumped very well today .. no excuses. Right lets start with the Arkle Chase: You are looking for a young horse who wasnt necessarily exceptional over hurdles but who has a flair for fencing. In that respect it is always worth taking a look at your horse over the larger obstacles before moving in for a position. Look for a good turn of pace mainly as when they kick 2 out it doesnt matter what they did over hurdles without this kick they are left dead in the water in an Arkle. That makes an early investment in the one-paced Celestial Halo and Medermit very poor value at 10/1. Particularly in the case of Celestial Halo he wont be able to grind it over fences as he did over hurdles you ideally want a horse who can cruise in behind then go for it late. RSA Chase: Will the best horse in this race turn up ... or Willie Wontie turn up? Enough said. |
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Ghizao rating over hurdles please? Now fav for the Arkle over stablemate and Champion Hurdle placed horse Celestial Halo.
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Desmond's Orchard now out of apples.
Celestial Halo thehighest rated hurdler in the Arkle completely tupped by 2 outsiders there and more jumping mistakes. Never had the pace for 2 miles. He should go back over staying hurdles imo which he would be more suited to than Zaynar. If they keep him chasing he has to go 2m 4f as he doesnt travel well enough or jump well enough for a breakneck Arkle. |
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Nicholls has confirmed Celestial is going back over hurdles between 2m 4f and 3m. Best decision, hope I savec people a few quid on here for the Arkle those who took my advice.
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Cant remember ever backing a horse for the Arkle based on its Hurdles rating,and probably never will.Usually wait till a horse has jumped a fence before playing,although i did make an exception last week after listening to BG talking up Finians Rainbow,and quiet glad i did.
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