BANKS,
      EVERYTHING YOU DISAGREE WITH IS A 'CONSPIRACY' LAME EXCUSE AND COP OUT

Greedydog it is clear from your posts that you are a problem gambler who needs help. I strongly advise that you do that.

If you read my earlier posts you will see that I explain I have no vested interest either way in knowing whether these machines are random or not however you appear to respond as if I am a bookmaker defending these machines which I am not.

The fact is that I do have 100% irrefutable evidence however that does not mean that I have a duty to reveal it to you. It is impossible to distribute it without the sources being obvious and possibly impacting on peoples employment.

Either way my aim is not to refute claims rather to put a marker down that may help some people. Feel free to ignore it however I can assure you that at some point you will find out for yourself that what I am saying is correct.

If you knew my position and contacts your comment of "do you even know who Global Draw are" would look a little embarrassing for you.

I wish you well however as a problem gambler you should be seeking help for that rather than trying to find non existant reasons for your addiction. The "evidence" you claim to have is not worth a bean. You will find that out in your own time however I was simply trying to help you reach that point a little quicker.

The longer you are in denial the worse situation you will find yourself in.

It would be nice to think that you will come back and post on here when you have concluded your campaign however knowing what the result will be I doubt that you will.

Banks,

please go to this post, its about 3/4 down the page on page 1, see everyones comments, 'We are all wrong, all problem gamblers and you are the only one correct, educate yourself Banks, its riveting!

Blackjack      BigAdz

i can no longer debate which i know are viable facts with someone who is unstable.

But which facts? What results are we talking about?

Never mind about unsubstantiatable claims that software is provabley fair, but what is the basis for suggesting software is NOT fair? Do you have bad results? If so, what?

Banks,
     Yet again i am compelled to reply. There is no doubt you are clearly an articulate man which is why i like debating with you although you constantly saying i am 'confrontational' and a 'problem gambler' is i feel a bit of a personal attack and i can assure you i have no problem dealing with any shortcomings that i may have in my life and being a 'problem gambler' as you put it is NOT one of them.

Back to the point in question if only you could look at the bigger picture and put yourself in my shoes, you mention you are only trying to help and want to offer advice but surely you are intelligent enough to realise that if you announce in a public domain that you have all this data about these programmes being 100% random but you ARE NOT WILLING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. Please tell me why bother even saying you have this data in the first place, you are not willing to share it but in your eyes you are offering advice and are being helpful.I am sorry Banks but you are actually doing the opposite.


You obviously knew right from the very start that you were not prepared to share this 'data' so how do you expect people to react? I think you should of said nothing and you could of still given your views but once you start saying' i can prove beyond any reasonable doubt blah blah blah' you can only be setting yourself up for people to come back at you.

I just wanted to make you aware of this because for an intelligent man as you obviously are i think you should of approached this and handled it better.

GD

YES....
Certainly a reasonable request and a good post.

.....and so say all of us.

B.E.N.T.

The majority of people seem to think these games are NOT random

Further to previous messages, recently I disputed the 'randomness' of blackjack with another well known online casino.
I had played hundreds of hands of blackjack with this particular casino and made a record of the amount of Aces (first card) dealt to the dealer, against the Aces (first card) dealt to myself.
The ratio of Aces dealt to the dealer was approx 80%, against 20% to myself. In a real casino the ratio would be closer to 50/50.
I accused this casino of sharp practice in order to obtain more money from the player through paying insurance, and that the cards COULD NOT BE RANDOM.
They responded by saying that the cards were shuffled before every deal, and that they use the Random Number Generator (RNG) to guarantee the cards were random.
Interestingly, they stated they "DID NOT USE A BIASED RNG"....?!

Further to my previous email here is a copy of the email reply I got from the other well known casino concerning their blackjack:-

"We would like to take this opportunity to address your concerns regarding your recent gaming.
Robert, rest assured that our system is fair and our results are generated by the Random Number Generator (usually referred to as RNG), which is a hardware device used to ensure the fairness of the casino games. In all card-based games, like Blackjack and Baccarat, the decks of cards are shuffled prior to each hand being dealt.

RNG generates a sequence of numbers which correspond to various results in all the games. Nobody can predict the next number in a series, no matter how many previously generated numbers have come out.

Our casino would never use a biased RNG for the very simple reason that it could be used against the casino, if anyone could predict the results. RNG's outcome can not be modified or predicted in any way, so the results of the games are really based on luck or game skills."

I've sort of skimmed through this post, out of boredom mainly but I did spot this, which tickled me..


"I also offered you 1k if you could prove beyond any doubt that these machines were 100% Random...when i challenged you to pay ME £1k if i could show you this, again you fail to mention and again you run for cover."

Here Greedy Dog writes 'offered you 1k' not specifying 1k of what, but when he talks about money you would have to pay him he specifies you would have to pay him in £'s "pay ME £1k"

Okay, so he makes a mistake, no problem. Except he then does it again:

"well i will pay you again £1.000 if i cant show this letter and you pay me £1000 if i can show you this statement which was produced last week"

A 'clever' use of the decimal point.



Probably just coincidence but GreedyDog, go to the casino!

I have tried these activities.... nice and wonderful.

Threads like this do make me laugh. One mentalist (Greedydog) who clearly hasn't got the intelligence he was born with and one sensible poster (Banks) who is trying to provide useful information and is basically ignored.

I used to play a fair bit of online blackjack. Everyone is aware of the "patterns" that seem to occur online especially a long losing streak after you increase your stake.

Do these streaks really happen or is it that you only remember the hands that conform to your theories about how fixed the game is?

You don't remember the times when you pull a 5 out of your a s s with 15/16 against a face card for the dealer.
If the dealer does it to you, you cry "fix".

The bottom line though is not about how the game plays, it's about the RTP which is ALWAYS 97-98% (due to variances from basic strategy) at any online / land based casino.

If you want to have a slight chance of winning money, play slots. The high variance nature means you at least have a chance. Blackjack is ultra low variance. It just grinds your money away and it's mathematically impossible to beat.

If you have to play blackjack, go to a casino. At least that way you get some enjoyment / meet some people and have a few drinks.

Playing online blackjack is gambling suicide.

If you think BF Blackjack is bad then

Banks - How do you explain this post

I actually complained to Betfair about a year ago about their blackjack after i had lost 34 hands in a row playing two hands per game, therefore 68 losers in a row.

In computer simulations after 7billion attempts they could never get 25 consecutive outcomes on 50/50.  You should also be careful of your definition of random.  Its not applicable in most online gaming.  Usually it must only meet a criteria as set by a regulatory body but you wont find a math scholar out there that will tell you natural random can be duplicated.  Whether you can fault someone for taking advantage of a license to steal is another conversation