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This is PPV Plain

Parker 1.92
Whyte 2.30
Draw 23


Takam 1.60
Chisora 2.94
Draw 28


Conor Benn 1.14
Cedrick Peynaud 12.5
Draw 55


Nick Webb 1/5
White Rhino 4/1
Draw 33/1
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Report n88uk July 28, 2018 11:57 PM BST
Naseem Hamed did all sorts of WWF moves in his fights.
Report wisewords July 28, 2018 11:58 PM BST

Jul 28, 2018 -- 11:54PM, Geesyerdosh wrote:


Parker is too nice, should of been raging. Sure enough the sky interviewer didn't mention about the state Whyte was in after the knockdown, if that was an away fighter it would of been well stopped.


I agree. Could have easily waved it off, Dillian was so wobbly

Report n88uk July 28, 2018 11:59 PM BST

Jul 28, 2018 -- 11:54PM, wisewords wrote:


Jul 28, 2018 -- 11:50PM, n88uk wrote:Do people really want to see Joshua vs Whyte though.no they want Wilder, and if Wilder agrees to come to Wembley it'll be Wilder. but I sense he won't and it'll end up being Dillian


The money is gonna come too hard to resist eventually. Like what is Wilder gonna do, go on fighting mugs for 1/10th of the money for the rest of his career.

It's risky too, look at his last fight, he loses and the cash cow is gone. And ultimately the probably know they have to come here to make it happen, unless they can actually deliver on this $50m stuff, which they probably wouldn't when it comes down to it.

Report Des Pond July 28, 2018 11:59 PM BST
they didn't want Parker v Joshua 2.
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:00 AM BST
Fury's next opponent is less of joke than his last one although he is 1.03.

If he doesn't look terrible then he will be not far out of the mix.
Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 12:00 AM BST
n88uk

Did he get his opponent into a headlock?

the end went over my head, but having watched it back Whyte should have been counted out

The ref stood there for 5 seconds before counting, then gave him another 10 seconds to get up Laugh

It was like watching a last man standing match and the ref was down as well
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:00 AM BST

Jul 28, 2018 -- 11:55PM, n88uk wrote:


They won't be able to hide behind excuses forever, by next year it will happen imo, and imo next year is when Eddie wanted it to happen all along.The only way it won't happen is if he could make Fury instead, but that's even more impossible to make. Fans will rage if he tries to sell Joshua vs Whyte 2 or Joshua vs mandatories too many times.


yes I'd agree that Eddie wants to control everything and do the fight when he/McCracken/AJ wants it rather than Wilder dictating proceedings. which is why it's possible Wilder will be awkward and refuse to fight in April unless they meet some ridiculous demands

Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:00 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:00AM, tobermory wrote:


Fury's next opponent is less of joke than his last one although he is 1.03.If he doesn't look terrible then he will be not far out of the mix.


Yes but problem is he has 4 fight contract with Frank, thus Fury vs Joshua cannot happen anytime soon, and won't happen probably until 2020.

Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 12:01 AM BST
Will Tyson wanna fight against a Eddie fighter after watching that?, not to mention some of the other Eddie fights we've seen
Report Des Pond July 29, 2018 12:02 AM BST
Enjoyed the fight, though. Much better than i thought it would be. Happy
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:02 AM BST
Eddie's laughing to the bank anyhow. he's got so many options, and all he has to do is offer most of them and they can't say "thank you Eddie, when's the date?" soon enough. he controls the whole landscape bar Wilder
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:02 AM BST
It is McCracken and Eddie that don't want the fight. Wilder would take it.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:02 AM BST
And yes Naz got his opponent in a headlock. DDT's, bodyslams, Naz had all the tricks up his sleeve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRRVVZjLLJQ

Go to like 1:15 in R2 to see Naz headlock DDT Barrera in R2.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:03 AM BST
Eddie imo just wants to delay it. Also ultimately AJ is dictating to Eddie, he has too much power that Eddie can just control him to stop the fight like that anyway.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:04 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:01AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Will Tyson wanna fight against a Eddie fighter after watching that?, not to mention some of the other Eddie fights we've seen


Tyson's shot. he's trying to figure out the best way to cash out and maximize his money from doing it.

Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 12:04 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:02AM, n88uk wrote:


And yes Naz got his opponent in a headlock. DDT's, bodyslams, Naz had all the tricks up his sleeve.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRRVVZjLLJQGo to like 1:15 in R2 to see Naz headlock DDT Barrera in R2.


Cheers

It shows what a farce professional boxing is sometimes, you wouldn't get away with this c*** in a local fight

Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:04 AM BST
There might be other more cynical reasons Eddie is delaying it btw. He's trying to sign Wilder to DAZN in America. In other words he'd control all the shots then.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:05 AM BST
I think it was Naz vs Cesar Soto that was just filled with all sorts of WWF moves from Naz.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:05 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:04AM, n88uk wrote:


There might be other more cynical reasons Eddie is delaying it btw. He's trying to sign Wilder to DAZN in America. In other words he'd control all the shots then.


Good shout. Wilder could well cave eventually because he's being paid a pittance by Haymon compared to what AJ is earning

Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 12:06 AM BST
N88uk

they should be warned after the very first illegal move and docked a point, 2nd one = disqualification

Its a sham
Report Geesyerdosh July 29, 2018 12:06 AM BST
Bellew pretending he wants to fight Usyk. Not a chance he'll fight him.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:06 AM BST
I thought that, but supposedly it seems he might be heading that way.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:07 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:06AM, Geesyerdosh wrote:


Bellew pretending he wants to fight Usyk. Not a chance he'll fight him.


you're wrong. I think Bellew wants it

Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:07 AM BST
I kinda bought into what Eddie was saying the other day about Bellew wants the chance for all the belts, ring magazine title.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:08 AM BST
Bellew is dictating to Hearn
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:08 AM BST
I doubt Warren will be able to extend the deal if Fury is looking good so would maybe try to make the 4th fight a big one.

Fury fighting obscure guys is surely not going to make Frank much money.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:08 AM BST
It will come down to if either side wants silly money to make it happen, as there won't be silly money available, but still good money.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:08 AM BST
wants to capitalize while his popularity is still high, so he fight on PPV again and another huge payday
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:09 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:08AM, tobermory wrote:


I doubt Warren will be able to extend the deal if Fury is looking good so would maybe try to make the 4th fight a big one.Fury fighting obscure guys is surely not going to make Frank much money.


BT Sport are paying Frank/Fury

Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:09 AM BST
I don't really get Frank's plan with him full stop, he surely knows Fury is just gonna f off to fight AJ eventually for no benefit to him. Fury supposedly wants easy knockover jobs to start, and I guess it's all been dictated to in his 4 fight deal from the off, it's probably pretty much planned who he fights, but he's got to step it up quality wise eventually.
Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 12:10 AM BST
After all that

Well done to DW backers, esp one's who backed points

Just not DW himself lol
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:10 AM BST
But yer BT are paying way more than Sky anyway. Supposedly their budget for regular Saturday fight night is like 2.5x that of a Sky Saturday fight night.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:10 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:09AM, n88uk wrote:


I don't really get Frank's plan with him full stop, he surely knows Fury is just gonna f off to fight AJ eventually for no benefit to him. Fury supposedly wants easy knockover jobs to start, and I guess it's all been dictated to in his 4 fight deal from the off, it's probably pretty much planned who he fights, but he's got to step it up quality wise eventually.


This is basically what Fury wanted to do with Hearn and Matchroom. Sign to fight 4 times, and fight 4 low level opponents. But Hearn wouldn't agree to it, so that's why Fury ended up signing with Frank and BT

Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:11 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:08AM, wisewords wrote:


wants to capitalize while his popularity is still high, so he fight on PPV again and another huge payday


Really he probs has 1 fight left anyway. Not much out there for him is there. Either fight Fury or some other British heavyweight, or fight Usyk, otherwise no money/what's the point. He will lose any of these fights and probably call it a day imo.

Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:12 AM BST
Well Pianeta is a step up on Seferi ( yes, anyone would be). Then maybe David Price.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:12 AM BST
Because Hearn won't give Fury like £1m just to fight a bum.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:12 AM BST
Yer but he's got to fight at least someone fringe level surely before going in with AJ.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:13 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:11AM, n88uk wrote:


Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:08AM, wisewords wrote:wants to capitalize while his popularity is still high, so he fight on PPV again and another huge paydayReally he probs has 1 fight left anyway. Not much out there for him is there. Either fight Fury or some other British heavyweight, or fight Usyk, otherwise no money/what's the point. He will lose any of these fights and probably call it a day imo.


Ideally he wants to fight Fury on PPV for a huge payday, but he realises it will be 2 years or more away. So Bellew has realised the biggest fight out there for him bar fighting a true active heavyweight like AJ/Wilder/Whyte etc would be to fight Usyk at CW for everything. I think win or lose that will be Bellew's final fight

Report Geesyerdosh July 29, 2018 12:14 AM BST
Bellew can make more much money fighting another washed up 'known' fighter than go in with a genuine pound for pound elite opponent. He's admitted so himself.

No way he fights him he's having to reply because he's been called out
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:14 AM BST
Yer but I'm far from convinced even that can be made because of the politics. It's more likely than Fury vs AJ politics wise, but even then the politics is a huge obstacle stopping it being made.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:14 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:14AM, Geesyerdosh wrote:


Bellew can make more much money fighting another washed up 'known' fighter than go in with a genuine pound for pound elite opponent. He's admitted so himself.No way he fights him he's having to reply because he's been called out


Like who exactly?

Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:15 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:14AM, Geesyerdosh wrote:


Bellew can make more much money fighting another washed up 'known' fighter than go in with a genuine pound for pound elite opponent. He's admitted so himself.No way he fights him he's having to reply because he's been called out


Yes but who is there apart from Fury? And Fury won't take it for at least 12 months, maybe longer. Fury realises he's shot so he's trying to train himself back into some sort of regular condition

Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:16 AM BST
Surprised there wasn't any "beef" between Bellew and Haye tonight on punditry duty. Could have nicely setup Bellew v Haye 3 for November!
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:16 AM BST
on PPV of course Wink
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:17 AM BST
It's not like Bellew vs a mug will be PPV, he's got to face someone at least credible for it to be a PPV fight. He must still make several millions to fight Usyk assuming they'd work out like a 50:50 split (which I assume will be the angle they go for).
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:17 AM BST
Yes 50/50 split and it'll be on SBO PPV and they'll throw the full hype machine at it
Report treeko July 29, 2018 12:18 AM BST
few heavy loosers in here tonight, parker got beat out the park, roughouse tactics from whyte or not

from the 3rd round onwards it was easy to tell parker didn't fancy it, whyte did what he had to do, very nearly had a heart attack in the last 300 secs or so lol tbf

go count your losses whingers, im busy counting all my luvvly cash thanks to whyte, thanks shann
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:18 AM BST
They managed to make a Parker v Whyte Saturday Fight Night main event a PPV tonight. they don't care, they just want to rip off the fans to milk them
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:18 AM BST
The timing is a bit awkward as he'd want it Goodison ideally, but that's not available for like another 10 months, which is probably too long to sit around doing nothing to wait for.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:19 AM BST
Nah, he's done Goodison Park and that moment will live with him forever. I think he'd happily settle for the O2 for the Usyk fight. Could be wrong though. He's motivated by the £ now
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:20 AM BST
Yer it will have to be O2 or Manchester Arena, only 2 arenas big enough for a fight like that. I would think Manchester might be more likely as it's closer to home for Bellew.
Report treeko July 29, 2018 12:20 AM BST
@wisewords, are u trying to say that wasn't worth top billing, ure a **** if u dont think it was imo
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:22 AM BST
Yes I'm saying that fights of that ilk could easily be on Sky Sports instead of PPV. Just because Sky/Matchroom love PPV, doesn't mean everything has to be PPV
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:22 AM BST
It's a pretty crappy PPV headliner even if the card worked out pretty enjoyable. Ultimately it's a PPV headlined by 2 fringe world level guys for no belt, with an undercard full of nothing fights.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:23 AM BST
And it's certainly shows you much Eddie has changed now in terms of milking everything for PPV. 5 years ago a fight like this would never be ppv.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:23 AM BST
It's not just Eddie though is it, it's Sky. They want a certain amount of PPV shows per year now
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:23 AM BST
Froch vs Bute was on regular Saturday night fight night ffs and when was that?
Report Geesyerdosh July 29, 2018 12:23 AM BST
Can't see it myself. Eddie has the casuals by the short and curlies they'll buy anything PPV now. Bellew said he prefer's fighting heavyweight's because their feet are so slow and stupid in the ring. I'm sure they can find someone Laugh
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:23 AM BST
This fight was made on 7 weeks notice or whatever because they needed to fill the PPV slot
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:24 AM BST
2012 for Froch vs Bute.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:25 AM BST
Yer it does fill like Eddie just fills a quota now of a set number of ppv dates and just has to find fights to make those dates. AJ will always be 2 a year, but he still has to fill like 2-3 others a year.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:25 AM BST
From now on, I imagine all Dillian Whyte fights will be PPV
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:25 AM BST
(until he loses)
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:26 AM BST
At the moment Eddie's UK PPV king if obv AJ, and then he's got Bellew and Whyte for backup
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:26 AM BST
Er depends, if it's Parker sort of level opp then yes and it probs will be so you're probs right. If it's a knockover job to wait for a world title shot then it won't be. He will probs lose soon anyway (when he challenges for a world title).
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:26 AM BST
is* obv AJ
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:26 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:25AM, n88uk wrote:


Yer it does fill like Eddie just fills a quota now of a set number of ppv dates and just has to find fights to make those dates. AJ will always be 2 a year, but he still has to fill like 2-3 others a year.


*feel ffs

Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:27 AM BST
Interesting one, if we've got Whyte v Chisora 2 in November, will it be PPV?
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:27 AM BST
Yes.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:28 AM BST
It's gonna depend if Whyte gets made mandatory. If he's made mandatory he's unlikely to fight anyone of substance if he's guaranteed a world title shot next year, if he isn't then he will fight someone of substance.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:28 AM BST
Eddie's effectively got everything mapped out until April next year regardless of whether Wilder agrees to fight or not. Eddie Hearn's got the game by the balls right now
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:28 AM BST
Yes Froch v Bute was a bigger fight.

I agree the way it works now is instead of 'Big Fight = PPV' Eddie and Sky have got the public thinking 'PPV so it must be a big fight'
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:29 AM BST
Yes that's the crux of it tobes. They know the public have an appetite for PPV now so they feed them
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:29 AM BST
It all descended into that as soon as Bellew vs Cleverly was PPV.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:30 AM BST
And that ppv headed by Brook vs Gavin too. What one of those was first.
Report Geesyerdosh July 29, 2018 12:31 AM BST
I don't think any PPV's do bad in Britain now. The Sky hype machine get behind it and the casuals lap it up.

They can literally just about put anyone on now. Heavyweights especially.
Report n88uk July 29, 2018 12:31 AM BST
Even a "bad" ppv for Sky does like 200k buys.
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:32 AM BST
Brook v Golovkin was a funny one. Brook literally sacrificed for the PPV money
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:33 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:29AM, n88uk wrote:


It all descended into that as soon as Bellew vs Cleverly was PPV.


Yes. That was the first shocker. I didn't even bother looking for a link.

Report treeko July 29, 2018 12:33 AM BST
lmao off, you all sound like you know eddie hearn personally, eddie this and eddie that! just the kinda chat u would here from the foaming at the mouth loosers who lose all they're money to buy food for the family in the bookies on a friday afternoon, give up the now before its too late
Report Des Pond July 29, 2018 12:34 AM BST
Mikey garcia v Robert easter Jnr tonight. Should be a good one. Expect Mikey to win, but odds look a bit stingy.
Report Des Pond July 29, 2018 12:35 AM BST
I missed your prediction, treeko. Luckily for me, I called it right anyway. As did a few others on here. Cool
Report Geesyerdosh July 29, 2018 12:36 AM BST
It's not on the telly is it? Boxnation is a load of shiite now.
Report tobermory July 29, 2018 12:38 AM BST
weigh in photo Easter towered over him
Report wisewords July 29, 2018 12:38 AM BST

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:35AM, Des Pond wrote:


I missed your prediction, treeko. Luckily for me, I called it right anyway. As did a few others on here.


Des with the overhand right clean KO

Report treeko July 29, 2018 12:39 AM BST
wasnt on bf till last thing just to place my bet, had other things to do on a sat nite rather than hang about the forum lol, sorry bud
Report Des Pond July 29, 2018 12:41 AM BST
no worries, treeko. good luck to you, but predictions carry more weight generally if they are made before the fight. Happy
Report treeko July 29, 2018 12:44 AM BST
i indeed appreciate that sir, i was just catching up on the bile that was being spewed from the serial gambling addicts and serial loosers on here and felt i had to comment, but i do agree with your sentiments so shall refrain from engaging any more as it would come across in the wrong way mabye
Report Des Pond July 29, 2018 12:46 AM BST
Very eloquently put, treeko. Grin
Report Callisto-moon July 29, 2018 1:02 AM BST
rather than reading back what was prediction?
Report Callisto-moon July 29, 2018 1:11 AM BST
the best moment was pre fight del boy vs takam look at the betting chart.
then sir hearn announces how great chisora was fighting with dodgy shoulder
Report Crisp77 July 29, 2018 9:56 AM BST
Fair play to these heavyweights. Not an easy way to make a living.
Report GRANTCKING July 29, 2018 11:01 AM BST
treeko sounded mad Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem July 29, 2018 1:52 PM BST
I thought back of the head shots were illegal in boxing?

Go and watch the fight again and Whyte must have hit Parker to the back of the head about 500 times, all without warning

Boxing is nothing more than sanctioned street fighting now imo
Report treeko July 29, 2018 5:05 PM BST
treeko was very drunk lol, had my biggest single bet of the yr on whyte and got the fright of my life in the last 30 secs of the fight!

anybody watching the whole fight live must have seen whytes tactics and more heavy handedness it was only going to go one way, then i came on here and had to read all the bitches greeting about this and that it just set me off

no offence meant folks
Report TimmyRiggins July 30, 2018 3:06 PM BST
Spend your bullseye wisely, treeko Cool
Report Des Pond July 30, 2018 8:11 PM BST
No need to explain yourself, treeko. Your views are as valid as anyone else's, and you didn't say anything particularly offensive as far I can see (I've seen a helluva lot worse over the years) Well done on your win, I hope it was a big one. To be honest, I was very worried about my own bet at the end, especially listening to radio commentary, when it sounded like Whyte might get stopped. and I ended up laying off more than I would have if I had live pics without a big delay.
Report wisewords July 30, 2018 8:19 PM BST
Rawling always overexaggerates for better effect on the radio. the market only went to 1.5x in the last round so it wasn't in huge panic mode, only semi panic mode. You could sense Dillian would just about make it to the end, especially with the home town referee's reluctancy to stop it unless he literally couldn't stand up
Report GRANTCKING July 30, 2018 11:12 PM BST
I think I must be one of the few people who didnt panic when wyhte went down, wasnt really a heavy shot, was always getting up from it
Report wisewords July 31, 2018 11:27 PM BST
Nah I was the same Cooper. watched too much boxing and know Whyte isn't a quitter
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