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Porter 8/13
Brook 7/4
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Porter 1/3
Brook 9/4 |
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Jaysus you'd be getting filled in at 8/13! Brook shud b bout 3/1 imo
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on further thought, agreed, porter will be 1/3-2/5ish
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Don't get these posts at all lads
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id make a private boxing betting forum and invite the best guys from here but i haven't got a clue how
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I could set one up no problem if people were interested
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I don't see why not alabaster, even if we just had 5-10 guys.
could make mandatory new threads on fights, pricing them up + some decent looking prop bets. it won't be the most active forum but could be worth it. |
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hey lads im not saying im any good but id love to be included in this as i think its a great idea...
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maybe a whatsapp group would be better
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Id be interested guys. Think its daft putting stuff on a public forum when the books dont have a clue on most fights.
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Agree with Jimmy, really daft posting publically . Discussed all this before, they really don't have a clue when it comes to boxing and there are sharks here who punt on the opinions posted, always has been.
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True. I'd argue with anyone that most on this forum do more homework on youtube on unknown fighters than the bookies odds compliers
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Allright chaps I'll knock something up tomorrow and direct message you all with a password
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cool what u going to do it on?
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id agree on all points re homework and that boxing is one of the only sports bookies r clueless on ... most other psorts they have down to a t there is an edge to be had on boxing
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Agree wit Duck, but there is also two ways of looking at this sort of thing if u get wot i'm saying.
But yes, overall i agree. Not sure i've ever said wot i thought a line wud b b4 it went up till this. Just frustrated with it all lately, the slowness of firms to go up, nevermind the blatant copying of prices. The idea of setting up even a private group is somewhat flawed also. Considering this is a forum, how does any1 actually know what r who each poster is...At end of day you could have the exact type of person in a smaller group that the whole thing was set up to keep out. |
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*Agree wit Duke i meant!
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well I've just set up a very basic one, no bells and whistles but will do the job. If all the regulars who want to join send me a private message on here with an email address I'll send them an invite. Only took 5 minutes to set up so no harm done if it doesn't work out.
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legend
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agree re putting prices up here.. the only way this would work is through mobile like whatsapp as suggested. good luck guys,
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Acd how u doing.
Looking forward to frock v groves. Think it's as close as u can get. Got very good tickets for it. Hope it's good viewing Cus I've paid a packet for em. I'm all up for watsapp. Can u or some1 pm me. Thank u so much and good luck every1 |
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Not even close m8, George will muller him early doors.
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Brook 10/1
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I assume the top poster thing whatsapp group didn't go ahead since I wasn't invited
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lol it did, not sure whp the person is who runs the group maybe pulio ask him to add u
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I'll have a monkey at that price please mike.
Really looking forward to this one, a very good match up indeed. If we had a fight like this to look forward to every weekend it would be a marvellous thing. I think it's a very winnable fight for Kell, which is not to say it's an easy fight by any means...he'll need to show us some things we haven't seen before but personally I think it's well within his capabilities. Porter is being overrated in some quarters, he s a decent fighter but he really isn't the big punching bogey man he s being painted as. Alexander and paulie fought incredibly stupid fights and he came out looking more fearsome than he really is...if Kell can avoid getting dragged into an inside fight the belt is there to be won. |
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Alabaster kell got pulled into a war with carson jones and only just got thru, porter is a diff fighter now meaning he's juiced to hell. Think he'll come out and overwhelm him and brook will crack. Brooks best chance catching him coming in. If you dont mind me asking how come u not in the group we all set up?
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I'm pretty sure Porter is juicing too mate, purely from the Conte involvement factor, but people are reading too much into his last few fights. Diaz did enough to win the first fight and then when he didn't get the decision obviously decided to engage more in the second to try and woo the judges, played straight into Porter's hands. Alexander as the champion fought purely with ego and consequently again fought the fight on Porter's terms, exchanges at close quarters where he came off worse everytime. Paulie just got flat out steamrollered but at his age and above his natural weight class it doesn't mean that much to me.
It isn't really even educated pressure with Porter he just lunges in, Kell has got to keep his cool yeah, and we dont know if he can do that at this level, but if he can he'll deal with Porter imo. Look how easily Diaz dealt with the pressure in the first fight...he just took double steps back and refused to engage whenever Porter sprung forward, it wasn't even lateral movement but Porter was bamboozled by it and soon got tired of jumping in and hitting air. Discipline and movement early from Kell, then start bringing the Jab in as an offensive weapon. Work his way in to the fight and then lets see how Porter takes shots off a big welter. I wouldn't say I'm fully confident he will pull it off but I do think he has a great chance. |
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Thats what i meant porter is juiced to hell.
Great reasoning to your argument pal would be an asset in the group thats set up? We had a gd result this past weekend. |
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have only been betting very small this year Boyd so didn't seem worth me being in the group, glad you're having some winners though.
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the two worries I have about Brook are
1) he freezes...apparently he was very nervous before his american debut on the ward-froch bill...that was a nothing fight so doesn't really bode well but was a few years ago now so hopefully he can stay cool. 2) he falls in love with this idea he's just got to catch Porter jumping in...a lot of people are saying this but for me it's just not the way to go about winning the fight. Kell isn't good enough at anticipating attacks for this to work, Diaz did it to perfection in the 1st fight but Kell will just get caught and end up warring inside. The key to the fight is dont engage on Porter's terms...move and frustrate and then work at your own pace. When things aren't going Porter's way he does tend to sit back and allow the other man to work...we know this is when Kell looks his best when he's allowed to put his shots together. Read a few interviews with Dom Ingle and I'm quite encouraged in that respect, sounds like they are going to approach it something like that way. Kell will need to show better footwork than he's ever shown before though. |
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stuff that its great banter etc well if u want bk in just say...
Just cant see him being able to get that space even if he tries porter closes distance fast but is a bit wreckless. Honestly think hes a whole diff ball game since diaz. |
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alabaster crashes down
alabaster crashes down 12 Aug 14 21:55 Joined: 13 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 1,683 | Blogger: alabaster crashes down's blog I'm pretty sure Porter is juicing too mate, purely from the Conte involvement factor, but people are reading too much into his last few fights. Diaz did enough to win the first fight and then when he didn't get the decision obviously decided to engage more in the second to try and woo the judges, played straight into Porter's hands. Alexander as the champion fought purely with ego and consequently again fought the fight on Porter's terms, exchanges at close quarters where he came off worse everytime. Paulie just got flat out steamrollered but at his age and above his natural weight class it doesn't mean that much to me. It isn't really even educated pressure with Porter he just lunges in, Kell has got to keep his cool yeah, and we dont know if he can do that at this level, but if he can he'll deal with Porter imo. Look how easily Diaz dealt with the pressure in the first fight...he just took double steps back and refused to engage whenever Porter sprung forward, it wasn't even lateral movement but Porter was bamboozled by it and soon got tired of jumping in and hitting air. Discipline and movement early from Kell, then start bringing the Jab in as an offensive weapon. Work his way in to the fight and then lets see how Porter takes shots off a big welter. I wouldn't say I'm fully confident he will pull it off but I do think he has a great chance. Conte joined the camp after the first Diaz fight. Kell better not go back in straight lines with his chin in the air as he has done his whole career. He needs to be spiteful on the front foot(the old Kell) the wobble vs a non puncher in Senchenko is a huge worry, no testing(and thats exactly what it is) is a major concern getting to 32-0 without fighting anyone is also a big problem. Porter via KO for me reminds me very much of Katsidas V Mitchell |
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the Senchenko wobble is a worry for sure, not fully damning evidence though in my book, could be evidence of a dodgy chin, could have just been one of those shots that isn't seen coming. Either way he recovered pretty well and finished the show soon after, I'm prepared to put it to one side, though appreciate I may well regret that.
Conte and the crappy testing of course is a factor, I do strongly believe though that his 'improvement' has been exaggerated by the kind of fights Paulie and Devon fought, I'm still not convinced he's some beast, PEDS or no PEDS. Getting to 32-0 without facing challenges...yep its undeniable and we'll find out Saturday how much of a factor it is. If he gets stuffed then the debate about protected fighters will rightly rear its head again...its a funny thing though, Kell is still in his prime and if he were to win convincingly and move on to other big fights its amazing how quickly his slow progress will be forgotten..he'd then be a prime fighter in the glamour division with very few miles on the clock. Having seen a few interviews with Kell this week he looks in great shape both mentally and physically so there can be no excuses. Looks a good bit bigger than Porter at the head to head too. Anyway he's either good enough or he isn't, not long till we find out now... I think he's gonna do it, Brook outright at 2/1 for me. |
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Porter on points at 4.6 looks decent value to me (21.7% chance). Last 10 Porter fights 6 UD - 1 SD Draw - 3 TKO (60% won on points).
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to bigger diff between points and ko thats for sure, even if i do think he'll ko him
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weigh in vid...
http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/8/15/6006341/porter-vs-brook-live-streaming-video-of-todays-weigh-in-event tremendous fight in prospect  |
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ACD, I've had a different opinion than u all week regarding how Brook has been going from your post earlier 2day...and having just seen how he was at weigh in i'm now convinced he's bang in trouble.
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why's that then Joe? Looked fine at the weigh in to me.
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