Froch v Groves

Froch by stoppage. bit of headbutt insurance 4-5. I'll be in Macau for Pacquiao Rios so dont know if I'll see it

Man against boy. Painful night for Groves.

Cheers over. Card starts at 8AM Sunday over there to fit in with US TV. Cant wait, will be a war.

Cant have a bloke who was life and death with Kenny Anderson

George Groves is becoming a bigger bellend by the day. Literally cannot wait for Froch to put him back in his place.

Topboys 17 Nov 13 22:02 
George Groves is becoming a bigger bellend by the day. Literally cannot wait for Froch to put him back in his place.



Absolutely, couldn't agree more.

George makes some fair points. Froch was chasing shadows against Dirrell, got caught all night by an ancient Glen Johnson who had no business being at Super-Middle at that stage in his career, outclassed by Taylor till he done infamous tank emptied and completely shutdown by a one-handed Andre Ward. Respect that he's taken on the best but he's very limited ability wise and like Groves his CV doesn't do much for me.

That said, not sure George is mature enough to avoid the trenches or strong enough to survive them if dragged in.

Very intriguing fight though and I fancy it to be closer than most on here. George can bang man, expect to see Froch shook once or twice.

one factor that is playing on my mind is that little dance Froch did in the 11th round of Kessler 2...I know it can happen to anyone and he recovered in about 10 seconds but it's the first time I've seen anything like that from Froch...could be the first sign of his chin cracking? I think Groves hits pretty hard and for me this is his best chance of winning. 'personally can't see him hit and running his way to a decision, if he is somehow going to win it'll be by landing something clean and them jumping in for the finish. The Groves ko @ 10/1 has to be a worthwhile cover bet.

wow, didn't even know this was on 'til I saw the ad just the other day. Froch has had so many massive fights the last few years, I doubt anyone in the States has ever heard of Groves

I expect Froch to be far too strong over twelve rounds and if he can't take him out he'll still win a convincing points dec.

Don't expect him to be too troubled by Grove's punching power.

Thats a big IF for me though mate. If Kenny anderson and Degale can cut the ring off and hurt you I think you've got problems and you're really not that slick

Just can't see anyway that Groves is going to win. People saying that KO is the best option but Groves is never going to KO the man with the granite chin. Not a chance. Froch will walk through his punches and punish him.

Groves has definitely improved.

He's going for the mind games approach as well isn't he, what's this gingerbread carry-on?

Any odds on Adam Booth actually showing up in the corner on Saturday as well? Just got an odd feeling!

Still stand by my Froch about round 5 assessment.

Suprised you dont rate Froch's CV Duke?? I find it hard to see who else he could have fought mate tbh..... Convincingly beat Kessler in the rematch (the first fight was close and probably swayed into a hometown decision, i had a draw). Say what you like about some of his wins but he stopped destroyed Abraham and Bute when their stocks were high. Love the way he found a way to beat Taylor, true champion spirit fighting till the end.........Wards a cut above anyone to be honest but you could question the Dirrell decision fair enough.

I wouldnt be too worried about his chin alablaster either, sure he was momentarily cross legged by that shot from Kessler but he recovered literally inside 5 seconds and was going on the offensive..........mark of a good chin for me. Even if Groves connects flush i think Carl beats a 10 count and recovers.

I had Degale as winning their fight, Kenny Anderson nearly had him out and the fight he had in America, didnt that Hispanic lad give him a bit of a fight for 5 or 6 rounds also........... Groves has come on but i think he's still a level below Froch.

I think he's been excellent in his last 2 fights. I know people are saying its a huge step up but at some point in every fighters career they face a step up and some cope and others don't

I actually think he's really got under Froch's skin too in the build up and I'm really looking forward to the fight.

Absolutely shocking oppo though hibbie. I know you can only beat whats in front of you. Groves big ?? is his chin and we will find out Saturday

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Fu ck froch talks sum sh ite, still think hel win tho

Anyone see the press conference? Groves was looking very calm and confident until the head to head where for the first time I think he looked nervous and out of his depth when staring at a pumped up Froch. Groves has revealed his master plan for Froch which is to meet him in the centre of the ring, win the jab battle and land two right hands in the first round to let him know he can hit him whenever. Second round exactly the same. Third round he will push Froch back onto the back foot and then the rest of the fight is how Froch plays it. If Groves is true to his word (which I highly doubt) then this fight could be over very early. But in reality we all know the distance of the fight is going to depend on how well Groves avoids Froch.

yeah i also thaught groves looked more focused and calmer and froch looked edgy also, i dont think groves is good enough but i certainly think froch is a bit afraid here